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I am a psychic AMA

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PicketFenceCottage · 11/07/2018 21:50

I have been Psychic since childhood but did not really understand it. I did not have much support so tried to ignore it and not let it get to me. My mother is also one but she doesn't really admit to it, but growing up she would predict events that would happen.
I developed my ability more into my late teens, becoming more clairvoyant and an empath.

Two of my DD also have the ability, one of them is particularly advanced. I am doing my best to help them accept it instead of fearing it but it can be very scary at times, especially my DD who see's in more detail.

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QuackPorridgeBacon · 12/07/2018 19:45

See that’s what puzzles me. I like hearing about this stuff but watching deer on Brown I think has turned me into a complete sceptic. If people can mimic it and a lot better then how can it be real? And if it is real, why hasn’t it been proven yet?

ShovingLeopard · 13/07/2018 09:41

I think cold reading does a very good job of mimicking a lot of psychic readings. However, I have yet to see anybody, including Derren Brown, be able to replicate a good reading from a medium. The sort where you can't get the biographical details of long-dead relatives, or particular phrases they used, events, etc from social media.

DuckingMel · 13/07/2018 15:40

If this "good" reading was done in controlled conditions, with clients who are trained to spot any leading questions, assertions, etc. and ability to spot statements that were "close", but not completely right or too general/open to interpretation for a person "wanting them to fit" (could apply to many people) can easily unravel it.

I'm not saying a "good" reading could not be comforting, but this is because the reader knows what the client needs to hear, or is willing to hear, and how to present it in a tentative way, so it fits or so it can be modified to fit or easily explained/ discarded if it doesn't. People will only really remember the things that fit (or they could "make fit") and forget the ones that didn't. This all means that nobody has yet been able to demonstrate skills outside of recognised human abilities.

thelionsharer · 13/07/2018 16:42

Have any of the skeptics ever had a reading to see if they can debunk it? Just out of interest.

Or have you op had a skeptic come to try and 'test' you?

DuckingMel · 13/07/2018 17:05

I have. Sort of. It was compelling and there are "primed" bits in me, like in all of us, yearning for answers, so it was hard not to get swept up in fantastic comfort. There is something in us that "wants to believe" that we can predict our future (uncertainty in general is hard for any people to bear, as the unknown is associated with inherent possible danger) or connect with lost loved ones. However, apart from the fairly general/open to interpretation statements I could "make" fit any other statements were simply wrong or highly unlikely to ever come true.

I did not particularly set out to debunk this lady (or the other one with tarot cards - the same story, but she stuck to just making quite open or general statements, so didn't "miss the mark" completely as much as the first lady), as didn't have much of my training/studies then. However, I am naturally good at making emotional and cognitive connections with others, so can spot this same ability in people, as well as spot the conversation and body cues/"vechiles" they use.

Plus I made a note to myself not to get "swept away" and remember the things that missed the mark, too. This, so I didn't get addicted to the attention and comfort (purely, because my wallet couldn't have taken it!).

DuckingMel · 13/07/2018 17:30

Forgot to mention other things like how if a psychic says something that you regard nice/admirable/aspirational about you, you would be prone to want to believe it, even if it didn't fit. You would think (after them observinv your appearance and demeanour and a conversation, perhaps, around why you had come to see them and simultaneously revealing them things about you) "she said that I am very artistic and that I will have a future in a job in which I can use this aspect of myself or maybe even become an artist - yay!".

This might make you more prone to take a risk and pursue training/knowledge related to the element (e.g. art) and apply for related jobs, in which case you just needed comfort and a confidence boost to do it anyway. Alternatively, you could interpret any suitably "bendy" elements in future jobs as being artistic. Thirdly, you might think/day deam "one day I will be working in an artistic job" till the day you die.

This why a psychic will only/mostly say thing that are positive/neutral/factually true about you. Negative things will be more readily rejected, but the odd one can be given while also then providing a neutralising solution and/or reason or afterwards.

There are many things like this bias about our psychology. Smart people know it and hone their craft to near perfection. Any further "errors" can then be explained with psychic blocks, interference, or any other reason, which can't be questioned. After all if you (the psychic) are the only one who can see the "plug socket", "interfering" auras/vibrations, etc.

PicketFenceCottage · 13/07/2018 17:32

@Butterflysprinkles

Thank you for your question. I feel if you are starting from scratch then it is best to get guidance and support to help you on your spiritual journey, ie protecting yourself and raising your energies before readings.
If you have learnt the basics then you can continue to meditate on your to open your mind and connect with the universe. I used to watch many youtube videos on different ways to meditate and then actually created a way that I feel now works for me. Your meditation must be unique to you in certain ways to feel relaxed and you notice how connecting to energies becomes natural instead of forced after this process.

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ShovingLeopard · 13/07/2018 17:42

I wasn't thinking about the sorts of things you mention, Ducking, which I agree are very vague/easily applicable to lots of people, or are so flattering that lots of people would like to identify with them.

I was thinking more of a specific person coming through, with a specific name, giving evidence by talking about, e.g. specific events, shared memories, special things etc. Things that are not documented on Facebook etc, and don't apply to great swathes of the population. Not sure how you would do a properly controlled trial for that, tbh, because if the sittee says nobody could possibly have known that, you can bet your bottom dollar somebody else would swear blind it must have been out there somewhere for the medium to pick up on.

How would you arbitrate between these two views? What proof/evidence could the medium or person having the reading provide that would meet the standard of the sceptic?

PicketFenceCottage · 13/07/2018 17:53

@thelionsharer

Hello. Thank you for your messages. I think some people are just too set in their opinions. I don't blame them if they have had particularly bad experiences or have been cold read and never experienced a genuine reader.

Your very right, it's again a preconceived opinion that everyone who comes for a reading is desperate and poor. I have many regulars who are earning very well. Lawyers,doctors, accountants, businessmen and women and even a commercial airline pilot. I also regularly read for other readers too.

I tend to do about a dozen or so readings a week all varying from 30 mins to an hour on average. I can do more if I choose but because I find them draining I keep to a limit. It's funny how some say I take money without a conscience. etc. When a few times I have been pre booked for a few days and have been offered by regulars who can obviously afford it twice the amount to jump the queue because they cannot wait and I have refused every time.
For those that think I should offer my services for free, it makes me laugh. Would they give up their time to do a part time job for free week in week out?
Everyone has expenses and bills to pay.
I am not afraid of anyone doing investigations. I pay my taxes and have always done so.

Yes I have had skeptics many times but when predictions unfold they tend to come around to the idea.

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Loopytiles · 13/07/2018 18:00

It’s exploitative woo.

DuckingMel · 13/07/2018 18:00

For example, servers would take note if psychic was able to find (verbal, body, internet search/personal connections, etc.) clues prior to their assertion. Or if it was "bendy"/generic (even if you don't think so, yourself). They would also, e.g., count the numbers of clear misses, number of general statements and the number of things that were unique, specific and spot on. Thus far nobody has had statistically significant results for the "correctness" in non generic statements while in a controlled setting. Lastly even stopped clocks are right two times a day! That makes the psychic lucky - not someone in possession of psychic powers...

DuckingMel · 13/07/2018 18:29

Another kind of test can be done with a "psychic" that will say the exact same things to all the clients and the see how many clients saw them as being accurate and a "real" psychic. This could be paired with a co-running similar test with someone who believes they're a psychic and does the "readings" in their usual way. Then the results can be compared for re. accuracy and believability. And so on, and so on.

DuckingMel · 13/07/2018 18:38

Lion: Many things can be found out about you in many ways you might not consider or had forgotten about. Still, lightning might occasionally strike, too. While it might be hard to know how someone can know something spookily specific, there is no proof that this is psychic power, as it is not seem frequently or consistently enough in controlled conditions. This is what we call above chance likelihood level. I understand how it can be fascinating, though, and this is why studies continue to be conducted.

GorgonLondon · 13/07/2018 19:24

Thanks duckingmel for those clear explanations. You are absolutely right that not one 'psychic' has ever passed a test in controlled conditions.

Derren brown is great on this. Especially the one where a load of 'genuine' 'psychics' all agreed he was legit and had such powerful 'energy'.

I also loved the one where he gave everyone identical descriptions of themselves and they all said how shockingly accurate it was.

bellinisurge · 13/07/2018 19:52

How do you feel about people calling you either a fraud or utterly deluded?

GarethSouthgateWould · 13/07/2018 19:52

There was a thread on here once where a poster was saying Derren Brown MUST have psychic ability despite him clearly saying that he doesn't and demonstrating how he seems to.

The poster just wouldn't have it. Said he was psychic but just didn't realise..

Joyfulsenior · 13/07/2018 20:02

Hi. I've always been very interested in all things unexplainable and have had many things happen in my house that were strange and could not be explained. I would love to talk to you. What area do you live in?

Dalesgirl16 · 13/07/2018 20:07

I went to a local psychic fair once and saw s psychic. She told me nothing that was right about my life and then said I was a psychic. I wish I was! Very disappointing

GarethSouthgateWould · 13/07/2018 20:39

Yes, lots of good earning professional people use psychics and not just poor people. That doesn't mean they're not being exploited.

Core business of psychics is the sad and the desperate. Some happy people whose lives are how they want them to be use Psychics. Those people have a reading every few months and aren't usually too invested in whether predictions come true or not.

That's not where psychics earn their money.

They earn their money from the people who have readings much more frequently, the repeat and loyal customers.

The people that they've convinced of their 'abilities' who think 'oh they read me so well, so they must be real' so they think the predictions will happen. And maybe a small one does which reinforces the belief.

But the predictions they REALLY want to happen haven't. So they keep going back to check that it will. And they're told 'timings are difficult to predict', 'energies can change', 'you want it too much so your energy is blocking it'.

They have a reading each time a timing for a prediction has passed, or each time something happens that suggests the Psychic is wrong. They want the reassurance and they get it.

If it's the same psychic they're going back to, they've already told the Psychic so much information that they've forgotten they said. Then the Psychic says 'well, he was supposed to call you last week like I said but he's scared of his feelings for you, or his wife is manipulating him and it's blocking him but he will come forward in a week at the most'. (Frequent Psychic users are almost always grieving for a lost relationship or involved in affairs or abusive relationships). Then no contact that week so they call again..get more reassurance..wait..nothing happens..call again..

My high earning professional friend has spent 10s of 1000s of pounds over a decade. With 'top rated readers' face to face and on the 'phone. I doubt there are any Psychics with good 'reviews' that she hasn't used. We worked out she spent 5,000 last year alone. She's an intelligent, outwardly confident professional.

She finds one/two/three that are REALLY gifted, uses them for months, realises very little is actually coming true (though convinced at the beginning because tiny predictions come true) so moves on to another one/two/three that's been recommended and the cycle starts again.

Shes 40 and lonely and pays for someone to tell her she'll be in a relationship.

In 10 years Psychics have told her she'd be in a relationship with a man who turned out to be gay (that went on for months), encouraged her to stay in abusive or just shit relationships by telling her he really loves her, is just scared of his feelings etc.

She's made a fool of herself on several occasions because they've told her she'll meet someone with x or y attributes and so when she thinks she does, she calls to say 'could it be him?' gets confirmation and then when they don't make a move after weeks/months like the Psychic told her he would, she gets frustrated with waiting so makes a move on them (because they've convinced her he's interested) and she gets knocked back and feels like an idiot.

Most recently she's been told her ex will return very soon. For the last year now...
He was supposed to be back in August, then by Halloween..then Christmas..her birthday...and so on.

The readers always have an excuse why it isn't happening just yet or just express confusion 'it should have happened, it's still here in the cards, he's still in your energy so I can't tell you it won't happen'.

When she's okay, she might have a reading once a fortnight. When she's in a bad place in can be more frequent and even more than one a day.

She can spend 100s of pounds a month at times.

Literally nothing major that they've predicted has come true. Anything that has come true seems to have been lucky guesses.

I think I could easily make a career out of being a Psychic from learning via her how they do it.

dadshere · 13/07/2018 20:54

Have you sought medical help for your delusions?

donquixotedelamancha · 13/07/2018 22:24

I think some people are just too set in their opinions.

I'm not set in my opinions. I'm very happy to change my mind based on evidence. It would take about 30 minutes to prove conclusively that you can sense auras. This would revolutionise our understanding of the world- if it's true then the right thing to do is to prove it and help advance science. The offer remains open.

People who believe amazing stories without amazing evidence are too set in their opinions.

I am not afraid of anyone doing investigations. Well then.....

genuineOCDsurvivor · 13/07/2018 22:34

You've probably answered this somewhere on the thread but being cheeky, I'd love a reading?!

Plimmy · 13/07/2018 22:37

You've probably answered this somewhere on the thread but being cheeky, I'd love a reading?!

You will travel over water.

That’ll be £55 please. 10% discount on further readings provided you book at least six in advance.

bellinisurge · 13/07/2018 22:48

@Plimmy Grin

genuineOCDsurvivor · 13/07/2018 22:55

@Plimmy Sad I want a free one.

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