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To think the referendum results would have been different if the costs had been known?

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TammySwansonTwo Wed 29-Nov-17 09:48:10

I mean, almost £60bn. Really? Who would actually have supported this? Apparently we have no money, the cupboards are bare, there's no magic money tree... oh, except the money for the DUP, and this.

And who's going to pay the price for this? Not the richest, that's for sure. More economy-crushing cuts coming our way!

Seniorcitizen1 Wed 29-Nov-17 10:46:58

I voted remain but the way the eu is behaving convinces me I voted the wrong way. If there was a re vote I would vote leave - the sooner we are shut of these eu bureaucrats the better - vile people

brasty Wed 29-Nov-17 10:49:27

Agreed, although I thought it was fairly obvious that it would cost a fortune. Expect the cost to rise or real costs to be hidden. It will cost more than this.

thisismeusernameything Wed 29-Nov-17 10:50:03

No, it just confirms that the leave camp were correct all along. All the EU are interested in is our money.

brasty Wed 29-Nov-17 10:50:55

No the EU is not only interested in our money. We had a contract that said we had to pay a certain amount if we left.

AnneLovesGilbert Wed 29-Nov-17 10:51:24

I feel the same seniorcitizen. But what sort of outcome were we ever going to get when the PM and half the cabinet don't want us to leave? Are they trying to make the nation pay for having disagreed with them?

InfiniteSheldon Wed 29-Nov-17 10:51:42

No makes no difference just reinforces the belief that we are better off away from these corrupt thieving charlatans.

UterusUterusGhali Wed 29-Nov-17 10:52:23

I don't think they're being punative, senior. confused

It was always set to cost about this much.

Rebeccaslicker Wed 29-Nov-17 10:52:56

Ditto - I wanted to stay. But the unelected autocrats at the EU have been really unpleasant in their desperation to make sure nobody else leaves and rocks their little gravy train! Juncker is the most arrogant nasty man. At no point has he said, "hmmm, we are so unpopular that people want to leave, how can we change?" He's simply said, "money and we're going to give you a good old butterless anal shafting." Can't bear the alcoholic tool.

UterusUterusGhali Wed 29-Nov-17 10:54:06

Did..did people actually think it'd be a few quid and we'd skip away without a care?

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 Wed 29-Nov-17 10:54:06

I agree tammy

Should have been considered before the vote

Frege Wed 29-Nov-17 10:54:21

Very confused about the comments above about the EU only wanting our money- this money relates to spending commitments already made by us. If we don't pay, other countries will be out of pocket.

Certainly, if paying up increases our chances of a trade deal, it's money well spent- no deal would cost us far, far more.

Frege Wed 29-Nov-17 10:55:38

Having said that, it does seem a bit silly to be paying tens of billions of pounds in order to have a chance of agreeing a worse deal than the one we already have. But that's another story x

brasty Wed 29-Nov-17 10:56:17

We always knew it would cost this much, but those arguing to leave just said we wouldn't pay it.

Humpsfor20yards Wed 29-Nov-17 10:57:22

'Project fear' wasn't it?

Butterymuffin Wed 29-Nov-17 10:57:23

Yes I do. Lots of people voted genuinely thinking there'd be more money for the NHS, and were taken in by all the sunshine and lollipops promised by the likes of Boris. I think a second referendum - especially now it's clear no one is jumping at the chance to make fabulous trade deals with us - would come out differently.

UterusUterusGhali Wed 29-Nov-17 10:57:54

Exactly, Brasty.

I'm sure the figure quoted in some places was nearly spot on.

I wish I could be arsed to find links from the time.

brasty Wed 29-Nov-17 10:58:07

Yes Project Fear, just like the predicted rising food prices that we now have.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 Wed 29-Nov-17 10:58:30

Absolutely humps, frege and brasty

DJBaggySmalls Wed 29-Nov-17 10:58:33

People did try to warn everyone that trade deals will be expensive and difficult to negotiate, and that we have obligations we wont be able to wriggle out of, but that was just part of 'Project Fear'.

UterusUterusGhali Wed 29-Nov-17 10:58:43

"Project Fear" was a fucking projection.

Sunnyshores Wed 29-Nov-17 11:01:25

£60bn is just one side of the balance sheet. The other side is the extra money we can 'earn' and save when we can trade with whoever we like and the money we save by not having to implement stupid EU rules.

A true net figure of income/expendiure would be interesting, but I guess we'll never see that. And anyway its not all about money

scatterolight Wed 29-Nov-17 11:02:17

No. As a Leave voter I'm obviously disgusted at these sums. But it just confirms what absolute pigs the EU elites are, how little they actually care about European fraternity and solidarity, and how much better we are free of them.

UterusUterusGhali Wed 29-Nov-17 11:03:47

Scatter, why would they care about fraternity towards us now?

Did you not realise it would cost a fortune?
Did you honestly not know we'd not have the same ease of trade?

WindowWiper Wed 29-Nov-17 11:06:39

We would have just the same costs if we’d stayed in.

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