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To think the referendum results would have been different if the costs had been known?

245 replies

TammySwansonTwo · 29/11/2017 09:48

I mean, almost £60bn. Really? Who would actually have supported this? Apparently we have no money, the cupboards are bare, there's no magic money tree... oh, except the money for the DUP, and this.

And who's going to pay the price for this? Not the richest, that's for sure. More economy-crushing cuts coming our way!

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specialsubject · 29/11/2017 13:33

Thank goodness we werent in the euro.

Cameron went to the EU in Jan 2016. No joy. And then arrogantly assumed the referendum would go his way. Even all those expensive leaflets didn't swing it.

lessworriedaboutthecat · 29/11/2017 13:37

@woman11017. Firstly Israel is without being anti semitic is essentially and Apartheid state and the Palestinian's have been treated abominably.
Do we want refugees ? , do you think the 52% of Britain's who voted to leave the EU want refugees. The Holy League are point blank refusing to take any refugees. You'd think all those Polish Plumbers would be telling their families how wonderful diversity is and how Katowice would be so much nicer if it was more like Birmingham. If you had a referendum in each European country asking if they would like more refugees what do you think the result would be and ask yourself why we wont have one.

FireCracker2 · 29/11/2017 13:39

It's about 3 years worth of our current contribution.So no, not a big issue

lessworriedaboutthecat · 29/11/2017 13:45

To be fair Poland has taken rather a lot of Ukrainian refugee's. Although that said I'd imagine that Ukrainian's are rather culturally similar to Poles and probably wont require much integrating.

teaandbiscuitsforme · 29/11/2017 13:48

Fuck me, the E.U. is badly behaved now??

For what? Having rules and principles? Being unanimous and democratic? For negotiating in the interests of their 27 members?

Some of you are going to get a real shock when we start negotiating trade deals with other countries.

Britain really needs to get over itself. We've had it the best we're over going to have it for a tiny nation who produces nothing and our future is completely screwed. But as RTB said, yay British flags!!

RebeccaWithTheGoodHair · 29/11/2017 13:51

But as RTB said, yay British flags!!

and don't forget we get our blue passports back - Rule Britannia indeed Hmm

LineysRunner · 29/11/2017 13:51

lessworriedaboutthecat's posts are like reading 1066 And All That but without the laughs

RhiannonOHara · 29/11/2017 13:59

Some of you are going to get a real shock when we start negotiating trade deals with other countries.

Indeed.

TammySwansonTwo · 29/11/2017 14:00

Blimey. Had a crazy morning (babies with bugs) and just logged back in.

So to summarise, those who voted Leave still think they were right despite the demonstrable havoc being wreaked on our economy, and this has actually pushed some remainers to think that they voted wrongly?

I am speechless.

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GhostofFrankGrimes · 29/11/2017 14:05

I’m somewhat sceptical when posters say they were remain voters but now understand why people voted leave.

RedToothBrush · 29/11/2017 14:06

The EU is both incapable and unwilling to control its own borders preferring to share the burden of the Islamic immigrants nobody wants but cant stop

Can you explain to me why the UK has not been able to reduce immigration from outside the EU? Seeing as we have the ability to control our own borders.

You answer that, before you carry on bleating about refugees.

Not heard one explanation of this yet.

It's amazing. We know which way Brexit Britain will go, when blaming the EU isn't an option don't we.

It's as thinly veiled as the racism in the above message.

ImminentDisaster · 29/11/2017 14:08

I find it highly suspicious that all these Remainers that suddenly would vote Leave are posting here today. If you'd done even the most cursory research into your vote, you would have expected exactly this.

If you are real, try reading something other than the Mail, Express or Sun.

RedToothBrush · 29/11/2017 14:09

Gisella Stuart said she voted Brexit because she saw the Iron Curtain growing up and monolithic political ideology suffocating vast swathes of people first hand...and she saw first hand the way the EU works.

Gisella Stuart who has been unhappy at how Brexit has unfolded and how it's nothing like she envisioned.

That Gisella Stuart?

MissionItsPossible · 29/11/2017 14:09

GhostofFrankGrimes

Are you as sceptical of those who voted Leave and said they would vote Remain if we had another referendum?

QuizzlyBear · 29/11/2017 14:09

I'm not sure why everyone is criticising the EU for trying to get the best possible deal for their members?!

That's their role and yes, we have opted to no longer be a member. If we hadn't we'd still enjoy their protection and any ' money grubbing' would have been to our advantage. I'm astonished that anyone thinks that leaving the EU means that they should be nice to us?!

It cocks up the hard-won peace agreements, the fought-for trade routes and potentially encourages other countries to follow suit (not that they will after they see the UK go back to the economic Stone Age!)

GhostofFrankGrimes · 29/11/2017 14:12

No, because the only people still arguing would be people like Farage. I’m sceptical that when dire Brexit news is announced posters start jumping on threads blaming the EU and rehasing old arguements.

teaandbiscuitsforme · 29/11/2017 14:14

I really don't understand how leavers can read these threads and the other mounds of information saying how screwed we're going to be and still think they were right. It's not about remain and leave any more. It's about reality and fantasy. The Leave fantasy has never been and will never be truth.

All that's left is reality. How can people not see this??

GhostofFrankGrimes · 29/11/2017 14:16

Brexit is now essentially a cult.

ImminentDisaster · 29/11/2017 14:19

Anecdotally, the leavers I know are firmly in denial, explain carefully to me that it will all be fine without saying how and then finish by evoking since misplaced Blitz spirit that we will all be in it together when it fits all do wrong.

ImminentDisaster · 29/11/2017 14:19

*some not since

LurkingHusband · 29/11/2017 14:22

Gisella Stuart who has been unhappy at how Brexit has unfolded and how it's nothing like she envisioned. [...] That Gisella Stuart?

Possibly the same Gisela Stuart who can enjoy UK and German citizenship whilst seeing any German-only citizens being told to fuck off ?

I'd hope there could only be one.

ImminentDisaster · 29/11/2017 14:22

*it all does go wrong.
Excellent typing this afternoon.

lessworriedaboutthecat · 29/11/2017 14:23

@Redtoothbrush I cant "explain why the UK has not been able to reduce immigration from outside the EU? Seeing as we have the ability to control our own borders". I think the answer might be that we are ruled by idiots.
@lineysrunner have I said anything that is incorrect though. Hell is coming across the Mediterranean by the boatload and its going to end in a bloodbath.

cochineal7 · 29/11/2017 14:25

Nigel Farage's pension will be paid out of this. I can surely see how Europe was never going to pay for that.

teaandbiscuitsforme · 29/11/2017 14:25

less Refugees are now hell?? Please do explain your racist comments.