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Coworkers complained to our supervisor because I am indifferent. Why are people so needy.

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anissa834 · 09/12/2024 10:06

I recently got a job at a new location as a graphic designer.

I've been working there for 10 months so far. I really like this job even tho it's demanding.

But I got problems with my coworkers. When it comes to other coworkers, I mostly talk to them about the work at hand. I work with them when I have to but other then that I don't have any real relationships with them.

My interactions with coworkers are strictly formal and neutral.

I just come in, get my jobs done and go home. Plus I already have plenty of friends outside of work.

Sometimes, some of them would complain that I am anti social and cold but I up until now, it never escalated.

Before the complaint, here are some context.

There is that one lady coworker who is the golden coworker.

You see how many parents have several children but they have that one golden child ? The child that get the most attention, love, gifts and overall gets spoiled and sometimes get away from being punished ?

Well that coworker is the equivalent of a golden child. She is the golden colleague. She is also known to be the boss's good girl. She is extremely loyal to him and doesn't mind snitching.

She is one of those people at work that almost everyone loves and wants to get to know.

I personally don't care about her but I am not jealous or anything but some of my other coworkers also complained that I am indifferent towards the golden colleague even tho I've told them multiple times that I am here to be productive and get stuff done and I have nothing against the golden colleague.

Well the complaint came in because apparently the golden colleague have been out of work for a week last week for some kind of medical problems. I don't really know the details, I don't care.

She came back today. I said good morning to everybody and began doing what I had to do in the job.

Well my boss called me in this morning and he informed me that my indifference and coldness is making people around me uncomfortable. He did say that I am not breaking any company policies and he is satisfied with my performance but perhaps I need to be a bit more warm and friendlier. Even said "we are a family here" . I told him that I've been respectful and professional towards my colleagues but he talked to me about the golden colleague and how she is been out for a week and when she came in, I didn't even ask how is she doing and how her health is improving and how I am always indifferent towards her and that she is a bubbly friendly person and I don't understand why I am so cold towards her.

He let me go eventually because this conversation wasn't going anywhere. We kept going back and forth and we both got annoyed at each other but he told me at the end "think about this conversation okay ?"

Why are people so needy ?

OP posts:
DowntonFlabbie · 10/12/2024 23:16

Yoonimum · 10/12/2024 22:15

Several people have pointed out that having a modicum of social etiquette is a standard expectation in the workplace and doesn't cost very much. You have dismissed all comments of this nature so you are just going to have to accept that you are the outlier. There's a lot you don't care about so you might as well add so-called neediness' to your list!

And several have pointed out that your notion of etiquette is not universal and is no more correct than anyone else's, but here we still are, with endless posts all wittering the exact same bloody thing.
We understand many of you think we have to be chatty and interested in our coworkers, it remains untrue no matter how often it's repeated.

DowntonFlabbie · 10/12/2024 23:19

RampantIvy · 10/12/2024 20:42

Not one single person has said you shouldn't make friends at work. Not one

Colleagues are not my friends, I interact about work and that's it. I don't want to know about their lives, it's not important to me.

I don't go to work to make friends

no wish to be friends beyond the workplace

Nobody has to be friends with colleagues

I'm not here to make friends

I picked these ^^ just from the first page of posts. While they don't state you shouldn't make friends, it is implied, and it is often said on other similar threads.

Who knew there were so many needy, self absorbed, rigid people in Britain's workplaces, using work as self validation.

That is a pretty unpleasant observation. You sound rather bitter. Wanting to be friendly or even friends with people you work with is not needy. Do you not understand how being friendly to your work colleagues improves the atmosphere in the office? I feel that you are projecting here.

Well done on picking several posts that in no way back yomyoir pount.

Wanting to be friends with people who don't want to be your friend, and pushing this is the definition of needy.

It's not the observation of the behaviour that's unpleasant, it's the behaviour itself. Stop demanding people be your friend, it's incredibly unprofessional and weird.

Nantescalling · 11/12/2024 00:22

I think the 'I don't care' comment was to explain how she felt to us. I don't think she said that to anyone at work.

CandyMaker · 11/12/2024 01:06

DowntonFlabbie · 10/12/2024 23:16

And several have pointed out that your notion of etiquette is not universal and is no more correct than anyone else's, but here we still are, with endless posts all wittering the exact same bloody thing.
We understand many of you think we have to be chatty and interested in our coworkers, it remains untrue no matter how often it's repeated.

You do not have to be chatty. You do have to treat people politely.
The obvious disdain, continually expressed by the OP for the women she works with, will be apparent.

Candy24 · 11/12/2024 03:34

anissa834 · 09/12/2024 10:36

I don't have any entrenched dislike of her. I just don't care about her. That's all.

wow that is an awful attitude to have.

WaryHedgehog · 11/12/2024 04:07

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Even if you don't care you always ask to be kind.

BlueFlowers5 · 11/12/2024 05:30

I might tell him that you don't have time for another family at work, as your own family is who you look after.

You could say there's too much emotion around the office, and too much talking whereas you just want to get on with your work.

Is there a union there?

RampantIvy · 11/12/2024 06:20

Wanting to be friends with people who don't want to be your friend, and pushing this is the definition of needy.
It's not the observation of the behaviour that's unpleasant, it's the behaviour itself. Stop demanding people be your friend, it's incredibly unprofessional and weird.

I never suggested that wanting to be friends with someone who doesn't want to make friends is a good idea. I also never demand that people be my friend.

You are reading something into this that isn't there. You sound very prickly. It doesn't cost anything to be pleasant to the people you work with.

dcthatsme · 11/12/2024 08:10

OP All I can say is you are well within your rights not to want to socialise with the people you work with. However, perhaps you can see your work colleagues as neighbours: it's nice to smile, say hello, how are you, discuss the weather or something neutral even if you're not going to become best buddies with them. A neighbour who is aloof and cold is going to make those around them feel uncomfortable. They will say: What's wrong with her? Why is she stand-offish? All you need is a little bit of courtesy and a few pleansantries. It would be good to find a way to get on with people who are outside your family and close friendship group. It will help you generally in your career.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 11/12/2024 08:58

C*andy
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There is a difference between being aloof with minimal interactions and having a face like a cats bum all day long with everyone but saying hi, goodnight, talking and interacting when working together,
and going out of one's way to be mean. Say horrible things. Deliberately give people dirty looks. I think OP sounds like she's in the first camp.

I'm an introvert and maybe she is extreme even by my threshold but I'm an adult and have enough confidence in myself and connections (plus, you know, I have actual work to do) with everyone else to know it ain't personal. Basically I'm not 10 years old and pissed that one girl in the class doesn't want to talk to me.

Some have argued that the comments OP has made about her colleagues further illustrates her Behaviour Which Needs Correcting. Again, some of those things don't sound nice but maybe OP is quite rightly hacked off that people feel they have grounds to complain? She's hit her limit at having this family shite forced on her? Also she can be thinking all kind of psychotic stuff in her head but it doesn't matter a jot because it's just that, thoughts!

I agree many would find this kind of person difficult to work with but with respect, if you can't cope to the point of complaining you need to grow up.

If you demand others comply and join the family or be hauled up for your "behaviour" that sound like a bullying toxic environment. You are no better than this person you feel so aggrieved with.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 11/12/2024 08:59

anissa834
I don't have any entrenched dislike of her. I just don't care about her. That's all.

wow that is an awful attitude to have.

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I've read this as complete indifference?

Liveafr · 11/12/2024 09:23

Few months ago a colleague called me in panic. She was working from home that day and was going on a work trip very early the next day and she had forgotten on essential item she needed on that trip. As I live not too far from her, I kindly retrieved said item from the office, took it home and she came by my home to take it for her trip. Had we not chatted informally, she would not know I live nearby her, and she would not have thought to ask me. Had she behaved very cold, I'm not sure I would have been motivated to help her. As a consequence she may have needed to cancel her work trip with consequences to the reputation of our organisation. And that's the reason the manager wants you to be more friendly, he wants people to like each other enough that they would help each other if needed.

DowntonFlabbie · 11/12/2024 09:37

Liveafr · 11/12/2024 09:23

Few months ago a colleague called me in panic. She was working from home that day and was going on a work trip very early the next day and she had forgotten on essential item she needed on that trip. As I live not too far from her, I kindly retrieved said item from the office, took it home and she came by my home to take it for her trip. Had we not chatted informally, she would not know I live nearby her, and she would not have thought to ask me. Had she behaved very cold, I'm not sure I would have been motivated to help her. As a consequence she may have needed to cancel her work trip with consequences to the reputation of our organisation. And that's the reason the manager wants you to be more friendly, he wants people to like each other enough that they would help each other if needed.

Thats all shite though, isn't it. She could get been chatty but you didn't live near her, or didn't have it, it couldn't be bothered. It she could be quiet and still have been able to aak you for assistance as it's work related. Saying you have to pretend interest.in your co workers and make friendly chit chat for years on the off chance you might need to borrow something from a coworker is just bizarre.

DowntonFlabbie · 11/12/2024 09:38

Candy24 · 11/12/2024 04:17

Even if you don't care you always ask to be kind.

But you don't, and it's not kind.

snowmichael · 11/12/2024 09:58

biscuitsandbooks · 10/12/2024 12:38

@thepariscrimefiles introversion just means you recharge your batteries by being alone, it doesn't mean being rude to people and not partaking in normal day to day conversations.

Making up your own definition of words is incredibly humpty dumpty-ish

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/introverted

introverted

1. shy, quiet, and preferring to spend time alone rather than often being with…

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/introverted

snowmichael · 11/12/2024 10:04

dcthatsme · 10/12/2024 18:02

The people you work with don't have to be your best friends but it is unusual not to say anything pleasant to your colleagues. I am not surprised your colleagues have suggested you are unsympathetic. They probably find your aloofness quite strange. Having a friendly exchange like 'Have a nice weekend' 'How was your holiday?' 'Hope you're feeling better', cracking the odd joke is just a way of connecting with your work colleagues so there is a friendly atmosphere in the office. It's pretty normal behaviour for most groups of people. It's not bootlicking. Given the fact you have a good group of friends outside work I'm surprised you are even asking this. It sounds like a question someone who struggles to connect with people or make friends would ask, which isn't your situation. I think you should get off your high horse and just connect a bit. You might actually get some rewarding connections back. If you are pleasant to work with this will also help you in your career, especially in something collaborative like graphic design.

" so there is a friendly atmosphere in the office"
These people are not OP's friends
They wouldn't be mine either
Therefore there's no need for a "friendly" atmosphere - aka "hostile if you don't join in" - when in a work environment a professional atmosphere is what is best for all, except those who think work is just another social gabfest

Liveafr · 11/12/2024 10:05

Thats all shite though, isn't it.
A bit aggressive ?

She could get been chatty but you didn't live near her
Of course she could. But that is a real-life example in which getting to know one another beyond work helped the situation:

It she could be quiet and still have been able to aak you for assistance as it's work related.
We don't work in the same projects or have the same manager. I'm under no professional obligation to help her on it. It was a favour I did to her, as she could very well do the 2-hour trip from her home to the office just to retrieve the item. I do favours to people I feel would do the same for me if needed.

Saying you have to pretend interest.in your co workers and make friendly chit chat for years on the off chance you might need to borrow something from a coworker is just bizarre.
Of course you don't have to. Just that if you ever need help, people will be more likely to do you favours or go the extra mile to help you if they like you. You may not agree with it but that's the way it is.

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Another foul and unpleasant post

snowmichael · 11/12/2024 10:08

biscuitsandbooks · 10/12/2024 18:32

This is a very black and white way of viewing the workplace, and not how things work in reality.

Very few people want to work with someone who is openly cold and indifferent towards them. When you have to spend 40+ hours a week with someone, you want to at least have some kind of human connection going on. I know I'll be told that you don't need to socialise at work, but in reality, you do need at least pretend like you give a shit.

"you want to at least have some kind of human connection going on"
YOU do
You are also quite incapable of accepting that people are different, and you think it's fine to punish them for being different
That's bullying

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DowntonFlabbie · 11/12/2024 10:11

They're not capable of understanding that not everyone needs what they need 🤷‍♀️.

We need to normalise not giving any shits, try to teach them!

snowmichael · 11/12/2024 10:12

pineapplesundae · 10/12/2024 18:54

Your co-workers don't know what to do with you. They want you to fit into the box and you have your arms and legs spread out. You can keep going as you are and they will eventually get used to you, or you can take a little of the chill off over time and who knows, you may learn that you actually like your co-workers.

Fairly improbable that OP will ever like bullying colleagues who make trumped up complaints about her

snowmichael · 11/12/2024 10:16

RampantIvy · 10/12/2024 20:42

Not one single person has said you shouldn't make friends at work. Not one

Colleagues are not my friends, I interact about work and that's it. I don't want to know about their lives, it's not important to me.

I don't go to work to make friends

no wish to be friends beyond the workplace

Nobody has to be friends with colleagues

I'm not here to make friends

I picked these ^^ just from the first page of posts. While they don't state you shouldn't make friends, it is implied, and it is often said on other similar threads.

Who knew there were so many needy, self absorbed, rigid people in Britain's workplaces, using work as self validation.

That is a pretty unpleasant observation. You sound rather bitter. Wanting to be friendly or even friends with people you work with is not needy. Do you not understand how being friendly to your work colleagues improves the atmosphere in the office? I feel that you are projecting here.

"While they don't state you shouldn't make friends, it is implied"
No
It's inferred, by you
You are reading people saying "I don't want to ..." and interpreting it as "No one should ..."

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 11/12/2024 10:20

Interesting that helping our colleagues seems for some to be conditional.

If a colleague was in a bind and reached out to me for help and I could assist I would. End of. Wouldn't matter if we had barely spoken before. Agree that had we not small talked before the "in" would be more difficult. But not impossible.

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