Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Work

Chat with other users about all things related to working life on our Work forum.

Racist manager

160 replies

tothem · 06/12/2024 07:43

My glasses are broken, so please forgive any mistakes—everything is blurry.

I’ve been working for a local council for about four months now. My team is small, consisting of seven members: six of us on the same level and one manager, let’s call him John. John’s manager is Karen.

Most of the team, especially Karen, works from home. I still work full-time in the office since I’m still in training. I’m also the only Black person on the team.

I’ve noticed that whenever Karen comes to the office for meetings (which is rare), she never acknowledges my greetings. If I mention something to her, like, “Oh, that desk isn’t working,” she just stares at me without responding. She has never engaged with me at all.

This made me wonder why.

Out of the blue, I received an invitation to a meeting from Karen. I was puzzled, as I wasn’t sure what it was about, and I was a bit concerned. Eventually, I found out the meeting was sent to the whole team.

Unfortunately, I missed the meeting, but my colleagues told me she announced that she was leaving due to redundancy and was visibly upset.

I felt sorry for her and struggled internally about whether to reach out. I eventually sent her a lighthearted, heartfelt message apologizing for missing the meeting and acknowledging her redundancy. She read it but never replied.

A few days later, she came to the office again. This time, I chose to ignore her entirely—I refuse to allow myself to be ignored as she has done to me in the past. I overheard a colleague talking to her about her redundancy, but I didn’t engage.

Her behavior disgusts me, and I’ve been contemplating the right time to bring this up with John or even Karen herself.

Now, I suspect there may be plans for a send-off party for her. My initial thought is to tell John and the team that while I’m available, I won’t be attending because I find Karen rude, unpleasant, and possibly even racist. Alternatively, I could raise this issue with John or HR when the opportunity arises, though I don’t feel inclined to formally call John into a meeting.

What do you think? Should I simply express my reasons for not attending the send-off, or should I file an official complaint with John or HR? She leaving soon but then it will be on record 🤷🏽‍♀️

OP posts:
user942557 · 08/12/2024 23:44

@ToBeOrNotToBee You haven't answered my question. What power do black women have over white women in the UK?

ToBeOrNotToBee · 08/12/2024 23:47

user942557 · 08/12/2024 23:44

@ToBeOrNotToBee You haven't answered my question. What power do black women have over white women in the UK?

I'm sure your non answer means that you do believe only white people can be racist.
Happy to be corrected.

IdylicDay · 09/12/2024 01:41

OP surely others there have noticed her refusal to answer any of your conversations with her? Have none of your colleagues said a word to you about it? Surely it must be embarrassing for them to witness and I wonder why they haven't said anything to you about it, or even called her out?

And yes, there is only one conclusion in my mind for her to ignore the only non-white person in the room and only talk to white people. She's racist. There is NO other explanation. Common sense tells one that. But I'd be more upset at the lack of solidarity and support to you from your other colleagues. That would hurt and upset me far more.

user942557 · 09/12/2024 05:22

@ToBeOrNotToBee If/ when you respond to my question I'll be more than happy to answer.
Toodlepip.

ToBeOrNotToBee · 09/12/2024 09:16

I don't believe 'power' is required for racism to exist.
Now in the 21st century Britain, black folk are in all sorts of positions and industries. Some are even landed gentry! Using your assertion that black women don't have 'power' over white women, let's use the Marchioness of Bath as an example, let's say she really had it in for an employee, a white woman from Poland maybe and started using derogatory language about poles, created a hostile environment around said polish lady, and the polish lady believed she was suffering racial discrimination .

Would you believe or disbelieve the employee.

user942557 · 09/12/2024 09:18

ToBeOrNotToBee · 09/12/2024 09:16

I don't believe 'power' is required for racism to exist.
Now in the 21st century Britain, black folk are in all sorts of positions and industries. Some are even landed gentry! Using your assertion that black women don't have 'power' over white women, let's use the Marchioness of Bath as an example, let's say she really had it in for an employee, a white woman from Poland maybe and started using derogatory language about poles, created a hostile environment around said polish lady, and the polish lady believed she was suffering racial discrimination .

Would you believe or disbelieve the employee.

Still not answering the question so I'll just ignore.

ToBeOrNotToBee · 09/12/2024 09:20

user942557 · 09/12/2024 09:18

Still not answering the question so I'll just ignore.

Black women do hold power above white women, see example above.

user942557 · 09/12/2024 09:22

@ToBeOrNotToBee
Sure. What power do black women have?

Hoppinggreen · 09/12/2024 09:38

The way some people absolutely tie themselves in knots trying to deny racism will never cease to amaze me.

user942557 · 09/12/2024 10:02

Hoppinggreen · 09/12/2024 09:38

The way some people absolutely tie themselves in knots trying to deny racism will never cease to amaze me.

I wish I was surprised.

It's not even that they defend it, it's that they claim it doesn't exist. Akin to me telling someone with cancer that the symptoms they're telling me they're experiencing don't exist.

It's disgusting.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page