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Didn't get a role - but they want the work I presented

237 replies

HarraKiri · 08/05/2024 15:58

I applied for an internal role, of which I had to do a presentation on how I would implement a new strategy.

I didn't get the role - a more qualified outside candidate. Fine.

HOWEVERRR my manager (who was on the panel) has said that my presentation was really great and would be so useful for the new starter, and can I email it over to her.

I don't want them to have it. It was EXCELLENT (biased), and it's frustrating that they acknowledge it is excellent but I'm not good enough to be the one to implement it. How would you address this request?

OP posts:
SoItGoes221 · 08/05/2024 15:58

Just say no.

Peonies12 · 08/05/2024 15:59

Just say no, it’s your intellectual property

LauraNorda · 08/05/2024 15:59

Tell them it's already been deleted.

beetforever · 08/05/2024 16:00

way to shoot your self in the foot for any future promotion OP

Redmat · 08/05/2024 16:01

I suppose telling them to stuff it would be inappropriate.

beetforever · 08/05/2024 16:01

possibly manager just trying to make you feel better

GerbilsForever24 · 08/05/2024 16:04

This is really really difficult. You alrady work for them so arguably, it would be unreasonable to refuse. BUT, I completely agree with you - they love your ideas but they don't want you to implement them? That's a bit rich.

I would probably ask to have a conversation about this. Explain to your manage that of course you want to be helpful etc, but it does feel a bit strange that even though they loved your presentation so much they decided to give the role to someone else and that this feels like a bit of a kick in the teeth to you.

But honestly, mostly I'd just be seroiusly pissed off. it's the kind of thoughtless shitty behaviour that turns a previously dedicated, committed and happy employee to one who starts thinking about their next job... somewhere else.

GerbilsForever24 · 08/05/2024 16:05

beetforever · 08/05/2024 16:01

possibly manager just trying to make you feel better

In which case, the manager is incompetent. You don't have to be a genius to think that perhaps this would be a bit frustrating for the person who didn't get the job.

reallyworriedjobhunter · 08/05/2024 16:07

Decline as you'll be using it to apply for new jobs.

Bronfenbrenner · 08/05/2024 16:07

That's horrible. I'd want to leave asap. Did you get useful feedback about why you weren't successful at least? Why do they think the new person won't come up with the same, and if not why did they get the job?

beetforever · 08/05/2024 16:08

the fact that would be good for new starters perhaps is his clumsy way of saying - it was too basic

MBL · 08/05/2024 16:08

I mean I can't believe they would have the nerve to ask!

My instinct would be to say no but the question is what is in it for you?

HugeCwtch · 08/05/2024 16:08

GerbilsForever24 · 08/05/2024 16:04

This is really really difficult. You alrady work for them so arguably, it would be unreasonable to refuse. BUT, I completely agree with you - they love your ideas but they don't want you to implement them? That's a bit rich.

I would probably ask to have a conversation about this. Explain to your manage that of course you want to be helpful etc, but it does feel a bit strange that even though they loved your presentation so much they decided to give the role to someone else and that this feels like a bit of a kick in the teeth to you.

But honestly, mostly I'd just be seroiusly pissed off. it's the kind of thoughtless shitty behaviour that turns a previously dedicated, committed and happy employee to one who starts thinking about their next job... somewhere else.

totall agree with you

But honestly, mostly I'd just be seroiusly pissed off. it's the kind of thoughtless shitty behaviour that turns a previously dedicated, committed and happy employee to one who starts thinking about their next job... somewhere else.

Qwerty111 · 08/05/2024 16:09

“I’m sure that the successful candidate would far rather use their own plan”.

ConflictedCheetah · 08/05/2024 16:12

What was the interview structure? I've done presentations in interview that were only part of a longer interview with questions - so they might have loved the presentation but my overall performance and scoring at interview wasn't as high.

Is there a way to ask how you can contribute if your strategy is implemented? What role can you lay that'll set you up for future promotion?

I get that it feels cheeky but if you stand by the work and you like the place, you'd be shooting yourself in the foot to be difficult about this.

GerbilsForever24 · 08/05/2024 16:13

beetforever · 08/05/2024 16:08

the fact that would be good for new starters perhaps is his clumsy way of saying - it was too basic

Are you OP's boss? Seriously?

I'll tell you this though - I will put up with "clumsy attempts" by my DH to tell me he wants more sex or from DS to show he loves me without actually hugging me or using the words. I'm completely uninterested in having to navigate "clumsy" attempts by a boss who is supposed to be senior to me, and who is in charge of my career.

JFC. The bar is low.

Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 08/05/2024 16:15

Oh wow that's properly cheeky! What a piss take. It sounds like they're taking you for granted a bit, this may not be the only time you're asked to help the new starter. They may even be thinking well isn't this lovely HarraKiri is here to help, now we have two people on hand!

I would definitely politely email to say you created the presentation in anticipation of hopefully being given the new role. As you were unsuccessful you suggest they ask MrsComeLately for her submission instead.

PrimalLass · 08/05/2024 16:16

It depends whether you put it together on their time and/or with their resources.

PowerTulle · 08/05/2024 16:16

This would put the new candidate in a seriously awkward position too surely? I would be saying that to your manager.

“Welcome to the company! Didn’t like your presentation though, so here’s how to implement the strategy, designed by your work chum who didn’t get the job. Happy colleaguing! “

Very very poor management.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 08/05/2024 16:17

PrimalLass · 08/05/2024 16:16

It depends whether you put it together on their time and/or with their resources.

Either way it’s her work/talent they’re asking for.

beetforever · 08/05/2024 16:18

GerbilsForever24 · 08/05/2024 16:13

Are you OP's boss? Seriously?

I'll tell you this though - I will put up with "clumsy attempts" by my DH to tell me he wants more sex or from DS to show he loves me without actually hugging me or using the words. I'm completely uninterested in having to navigate "clumsy" attempts by a boss who is supposed to be senior to me, and who is in charge of my career.

JFC. The bar is low.

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oh it always makes me smile when a poster asks a poster this 😆 . And to me… I feel honoured!

Clumsy from a manager at a delicate time is crap but if otherwise good manager i get on with… it would calm me down thinking he was trying to make me feel better

TinySmol · 08/05/2024 16:19

That's very cheeky and quite callous.

Can you send them a version that is not as good? Take out all the best bits and if they twig, claim ignorance.

OnehundredStars · 08/05/2024 16:19

Oh my how I don’t know how they could attempt to ask you for this and I would look for a new job where you are appreciated

Maddy70 · 08/05/2024 16:20

I would say yes. Shows you're a team player and will be noted for future promotion
Say you will be happy to talk it over with the newbie
cheeky fuckers

Zimunya · 08/05/2024 16:21

Qwerty111 · 08/05/2024 16:09

“I’m sure that the successful candidate would far rather use their own plan”.

Brilliant response!