Didn't get a role - but they want the work I presented

[HarraKiri]

I applied for an internal role, of which I had to do a presentation on how I would implement a new strategy.

I didn't get the role - a more qualified outside candidate. Fine.

HOWEVERRR my manager (who was on the panel) has said that my presentation was really great and would be so useful for the new starter, and can I email it over to her.

I don't want them to have it. It was EXCELLENT (biased), and it's frustrating that they acknowledge it is excellent but I'm not good enough to be the one to implement it. How would you address this request?

I think it depends whether you are building your career, or you just want to do your job and get paid. Assuming the former then of course you should hand it over.

• try to be pleased and flattered that they want to use your work
• when your annual performance appraisal comes round you can point to this as an example of going above and beyond and expect an Excellent rating
• you should have had good feedback about why you didn't get the role you applied for, if not ask your manager for a 1-1 to get a clear understanding of what you could have done differently in order to get the job
• use this meeting to talk about your career plan, for instance it may be that you lack certain experience / knowledge so ask for a plan to provide you with training or different work responsibilities (or whatever).

It's up to you. Do you want to throw your dummy out of the pram, or do you want to build on the good work you have done?

HarraKiri · 09/05/2024 19:20

" I handed over the presentation, and am going to look for other roles. "

Maybe PP could offer advice on how best to find a better role / company?

if their chosen candidate is more qualified then they’ll have no problem bashing out a presentation of their own. Or better id they are “all that” and got the job. What the fudge has happened to people’s attitudes and expectations out there. No manners no morals. Asking you for your work and not giving you the role. That manager needs to check themselves and their barefaced cheek. The ignorance of knowing right from wrong but doing it anyway. They are in the wrong here. That manager would go to the last supper and ask for extra ketchup on the side! Find a better job in a better company

This

i’ll take a punt OP

The manager hasn’t mentioned since and certainly hasn’t chased?

What an awkward situation. They have really got so much nerve to ask this of you, and I think it demonstrates a complete lack of management skills. But I am not sure what I would do. I wouldn't want my "excellent" work to be used by the person who got the job I had applied for (assuming, as another poster mentioned, that your presentation had been prepared in your own time). On the other hand, it puts you in a difficult position if you refuse - as you are still working there.

On balance, though, I think I would have to give something like the response Theredfoxfliesatmidnight suggests. Also, start looking round for another job as you are obviously being overlooked and underused in your present position.

Tell them you have deleted it but you're willing to do it again. You'd of course have to do it in your own time as you'd not be able to fit it in to your busy work schedule therefore you'd be claiming overtime. At least then if you do hand over your presentation work you're getting some financial gain from doing so which might sweeten the pill of not getting the role.

How much are they paying for it??? Otherwise they can go without. You put work in, so deserve to get rewarded. Time to find a new job.

No way

I'm sorry this happened. I certainly agree with asking them to pay for a management course, as a thank you for the great presentation, that the newbie couldn't do. And also that this is poor form, maybe even somewhat unlawful (not being too dramatic - hear me out) by passing you over for promotion, and giving someone new your ideas to implement. I hope I'm wrong but it sounds flippin awkward, maybe even more so for newbie, who I doubt would be impressed either.

Maybe not a relevant story but I was once appointed to a role, that I was totally new to (although had an impressive CV in other areas) and there was another candidate who I was told came 2nd and was available on a part time basis to support me, as she had been doing the job on a part time basis. I met up with her, she was older and been in the profession longer. First thing she asked was "what did you say to get the job over me?" Which of course I couldn't / didn't try to answer.
Anyway, I pointed out the areas I needed resourcing. She said she couldn't do most of that. I suggested maybe I cover those and she do some of other tasks instead, and she said she wasn't confident in doing those either. So.......

I applied for a job that had my name written on it. All of my rather niche experience plus fluency in French. Job went to a man who had no experience in the subject and no French. But he answered the interview question on strategic thinking better than I did.

My boss asked me if I would train him up. I asked him if he was joking or taking the fucking piss. I didn’t train him up. He had to “read himself in”. He missed half of what was going on in meetings due to the lack of language skills. I got a better job and moved on. My boss admitted to me later that it was a big mistake - he couldn’t read himself in on something I had years of experience in. By that point I didn’t care as I had moved onwards and upwards.

My boss admitted to me later that it was a big mistake - he couldn’t read himself in on something I had years of experience in. By that point I didn’t care as I had moved onwards and upwards.

What a pity they made such a bad mistake not to recognise your value. Hope the new job is steps ahead in opportunities and your reward package is better. 🌹