Didn't get a role - but they want the work I presented

[HarraKiri]

I applied for an internal role, of which I had to do a presentation on how I would implement a new strategy.

I didn't get the role - a more qualified outside candidate. Fine.

HOWEVERRR my manager (who was on the panel) has said that my presentation was really great and would be so useful for the new starter, and can I email it over to her.

I don't want them to have it. It was EXCELLENT (biased), and it's frustrating that they acknowledge it is excellent but I'm not good enough to be the one to implement it. How would you address this request?

What the company have done sounds even worse now you've given context; when the new person joins, you will be expected to train them up and provide them with the support to do the job that they decided you couldn't do!

Although you haven't managed a team before, your company should have appointed you and provided the support you needed in your first management role. From the brief descriptions of how you went about things, you sound like you have great potential.

I didn't get a promotion once, as the powers that be decided I wasn't strategic enough to be the CFO. They then appointed a complete imbecile who had no experience in the sector, and barely understood accounting. I spent 18 months being bullied and micro-managed by this cretin, before leaving for bigger and better things. The company sacked him 4 months after I left, as it became obvious who had been doing all his work.

I would save yourself the indignity of having to go through what I wrote in my first paragraph and look earnestly for a new job now.

Good luck with the jobhunting @HarraKiri. Hopefully you'll get something in placecquick enough that you can leave before the appointee starts. They hsve treated you like shit. Darn right you can be bitter. They do not deserve you.

a completely new team
implementing a new strategy

that calls for an experienced manager

I think you need to start looking for a new job.
They don't appreciate you and don't want you to progress, clearly.

I would have a discussion with the manager and ask whether you and the new person can work together on your presentation and when it is successfully implemented you would like a bonus for the additional time and effort involved.

Also that as you were unsuccessful you fully expect to be next in line for the next promotion as you have such innovative ideas.

@beetforever I have no idea what your reply was to me, as they’ve all been deleted.

I’m guessing because they weren’t worth the read.

@HarraKiri

Sorry you were out in this position and glad you are looking at other roles - I'm assuming externally?

How long is your notice period - and when is the expected new hire likely to be in the role you both interviewed for?

I also agree with @Starseeking's comments:

What the company have done sounds even worse now you've given context; when the new person joins, you will be expected to train them up and provide them with the support to do the job that they decided you couldn't do!

Although you haven't managed a team before, your company should have appointed you and provided the support you needed in your first management role. From the brief descriptions of how you went about things, you sound like you have great potential.

Let your current manager hand over the aspects of the role she currently gives to you to manage to the new hire, or do it herself. Time for a fresh start elsewhere. Good luck. 🌹

" I am bloody excellent at what I do (biased), and my manager is partly just shit, and partly doesn't want to lose me in the role I do, because I do it so well, and she doesn't want to rehire it again I think, plus in my current role, I fall far enough below her that she hands over lots of "her" area of work for me to do, and she'd lose that if I was a more senior role."

Let the thought of how deep in shit she is going to be when you hand in your notice, keep you warm and motivated as you apply for and secure a job with another company.

Just say no. They will ask why you won't share it

You can then explain how disappointed you were to be REJECTED for the role and find it difficult if not insulting that they then ask you to give them work you conducted in your own time, to improve your position, which they rejected. I would expect (not if it's public sector) they will come back with an offer of some sort.

Having read your follow up comment, it think I would also make it clear to your manager that regrettably you don't see a future for yourself within the company, as they obviously don't value you and you need to make career plans.

You should check your contract.
Often work you produce can be the property of your employer.

If you wrote the presentation on your own time, if I were you I would refuse, if you wrote it on company time, really you can't refuse.
the fact your manager was so insensitive, means, I'm afraid that you are not valued. I think I would therefore look for a job in a different company.

Politely refuse, it was done in your own time (hopefully) and your own work

Ask your company to pay for you to go on a management course, to widen your experience within the company.

Say it is your intellectual property and ask them to suggestion an amount they could offer to use it once or for this project. Be brave, OP.

Ooops deleted it, apply for similar roles immediately, talk to head hunters. You don't want to sit there for years teaching the new guy and watching him flounder and be ordered around when he flexes his muscles. New bosses normally want to surround themselves with their own people/cronies so could be your days are numbered anyhow.

I'd ask if this meant they're expecting you to train up the person who got the job, which is crazy. It might be BS, I've heard this before when I was in a similar position. After the interview my section head, said I had interviewed really well and the overall head told me I hadn't interviewed very well. I'd worked so hard but ended up getting a temporary maternity cover, working alongside the new girl. I didn't blame her, just did my job and reassured her that I held no grudge. She asked me almost every week, it's weird but I realised she was projecting how she would feel in my place and rather clever starting these conversations just as colleagues came into the room. She was trying to play the victim, I don't know why but I did laugh when I found out that after a few months this career woman went on maternity leave.

No no no and No! I really feel for you X absolutely cannot believe the bare faces cheek of them! I’ve no polite words 😱 their behaviour is disgusting you just don’t do that. As someone else said below I too would say I’d deleted it. And if they answer back I’d be truthful and say, as they chose another candidate then they should be more than capable of showing they can do the job and produce similar. NOBODY gets to reject you but keep your work! Workplaces are getting ridiculous these days. Where does the manager get off even asking this it’s insulting you! You get cast aside for another candidate but want your interview material to “help them” I’d start looking for a new job in a company that knows how to treat their employees! I’d possibly turn it on them and ask for feedback from your interview as to why they liked your work but then picked someonelse? Chances are they’ll feel stupid and drop it. Interesting to see how long this new person will last

This. But make sure it's well and truly deleted and you have your own personal copy. Otherwise their IT person may jut take it from your computer.

This 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

Someone might have already mentioned this but it happened to my daughter a long time ago. If you used work computer and work time to compose the presentation it already belongs to them. It's totally not fair and I would definitely have a word with your boss. You should get a wage increase at the very least or a one off remuneration but it's unlikely. My daughter actually had to train the person who got the job. She got another job before they started! Good luck hope you get a promotion eventually or find a better employer.