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Super-sensitive new colleague: how to manage

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GustyFinknottle · 14/09/2023 21:07

I work in a sales and marketing team for a small company that doesn't have in-house HR. My manager has been on sick leave for five weeks and I, being the oldest and longest-serving member of the department, have been instructed to deal with this situation as best I can by my manager's manager (who is the company director/ owner).

Before he went off sick my manager recruited a young woman (a recent graduate) to work as an assistant. She's very conscientious and she seems super-sensitive about what I and my fellow colleagues would regard as normal work exchanges and feedback. It's a fairly relaxed environment and we understand that it takes a while to learn the systems and don't expect her to get everything right all the time.

Part of her work involves updating product specs. I was wfh a couple of weeks ago and couldn't find the updated version of a file I knew she'd been working on, so I emailed her saying 'Hi, I'm looking for the latest version of the XYZ file. Are you still working on it?' She responded that she had completed the task and uploaded the file. I took another look, still couldn't find it, so emailed asking her to double-check it was completed and she'd uploaded it. She said she had. It turned out, when I searched for it, that she'd accidentally changed the title and put it in the wrong folder. I called her to say I'd found it, told her what had happened and suggested it was something to look out for in the future. I assured her that it's still early days and that we've all done similar things. We laughed at how easy it was to do and that was that.

The following day I received an email telling me she felt I owed her an apology because I had accused her of not completing the work when she said she had. I responded in writing saying that I was sorry that was how she'd understood my words, but there was no accusation intended, I was just trying to work out where the file was. She came back saying she still thought I ought to apologise. I sat down with a cup of tea, wondered wtf was going on, gave it some thought and responded via email asking how how she'd like me to approach her in the future if something like this happened again. Her response was that if she tells me she's done something I need to trust that she has and not accuse her of lying, which she felt I had by asked her to double-check. She again asked for an apology in writing. I said I was sorry that she felt I was accusing her of not having completed the task and that seemed to satisfy her, but it was such a bizarre exchange that I haven't been able to relax around her since.

I thought I was the only one, but apparently something similar has been going on with two other colleagues. They've both been asked to apologise for the kind of functional communications that go on in every office I've worked in. They're both decent people who feel quite offended by her accusations. They've asked me to talk to her and have made it clear they feel that working with her is going to be a challenge. She is in week nine of a three month probationary period and this needs to be dealt with before the end of probation. My manager is off sick. I've asked the director for permission to involve the HR consultant and I'm waiting for a response, but I'd like to have a conversation with her in the next few days in order to put down a marker and then work out where to go from there.

Has anyone encountered anything like this? Is this a generational thing? I'm in my 50s, my other colleagues are at least 15 years older than her. Our adult children aren't like this but is this the new normal?

I was wondering about asking her if she was enjoying working here and seeing what she has to say. Would it be acceptable to say that I get the impression, from some of her communications with me and others, that she doesn't seem comfortable with the way our team communicates, and that's something she needs to work on? This is a pleasant place to work, everyone in the is pretty reasonable and good at what they do and we've been a good — and effective — team. Is it appropriate to alert her that being able to work comfortably with other team members, in an established office culture, is vital? That being able to handle reasonable requests and feedback from colleagues is all part of the job?

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Magenta82 · 15/09/2023 13:01

Well done OP.
You have handled this really well so far and getting the acknowledgement of your role,the money and training is fantastic.

Now is the hard part, I've been fired and I've fired people and I can honestly say that I was more upset having to do the firing! The important part is to remember that it is your job, it is not personal and doing it in a direct and professional way is best for everyone.

Do it at the end of the day in a private room. Keep cool, spell out the problems, tell her you are terminating her employment and will pay her notice period rather than expecting her to work it. Leave her for a bit then let her get her stuff together and go. Once she is out of the building you can deal with your own emotions, please try not to show them before.

HonoriaLucastaDelagardie · 15/09/2023 13:03

Next time ask for the link.

Why should the OP have to waste time asking for a link when she should be able to go straight to the correct folder and find the file, with its correct name, where it's supposed to be?

What happens if 'next time' the OP does ask for a link but she can't get it because the only person who knows where the file is, is at the dentist or off with flu or sunning herself in Corfu?

BotterMon · 15/09/2023 13:06

If it's her first job, she needs managing and coaching. As her manager is off sick, then you are the internal locus of control as per the Director's conversation with you. They obviously don't want to get involved.
Just sit with her and go over the questions you've put above and tell her what the company's and team's expectations are of the role. Document and then you have something to fail/extend probation on if the sensitive little princess snowflake new recruit doesn't improve.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/09/2023 13:13

I'm not at all clear on your MD being a 'legend' - wanting her "removed asap" but "not interested in the details."

He's made an executive decision in the absence of the OP's actual manager to deal with a problem before it becomes a bigger one. Doing what MDs are supposed to do, making decisions for the good of the company as a whole. He's also given OP authority to deal with it, boosted her pay and made her temporary promotion official in case anyone feels like arguing. Now she has the authority she can implement the offloading without needing to loop him into the day to day stuff MDs don't usually deal with. And OP and other staff know that MD will back them up.

Tagyourenext · 15/09/2023 13:14

Sounds as though this is mostly resolved now. I hope I’m not repeating something already advised here (I’ve had a quick scroll to check but it wasn’t an exhaustive search) so sorry if I am. Have you come across the website called Ask A Manager? It’s brilliant for these sorts of questions and I’ve used it as a resource for years. It’s something that’s useful to navigate all sorts of workplace things but is really helpful for sanity checking things as a new manager.

SphincterSaysWhat · 15/09/2023 13:14

Fuck me. What a prick.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/09/2023 13:15

SphincterSaysWhat · 15/09/2023 13:14

Fuck me. What a prick.

Could you go into a little more detail there?

Enko · 15/09/2023 13:17

Great update op.

whatchulookinatwillis · 15/09/2023 13:19

Really good result; well done for tackling this with the MD OP.

user1846385927482658 · 15/09/2023 13:24

It's curious how much pleasure so many posters seem to take from attacking strangers. Like watching a mob getting their thrills from giving someone a kicking.

AnneLovesGilbert · 15/09/2023 13:25

Good update OP.

bignosebignose · 15/09/2023 13:25

I've only read OP's posts and skimmed some others but to echo what some others have said, you don't actually owe her an explanation and don't need to go into the reasons. You / HR might decide that you actively want to, but during probation you can simply say "it's not working out, all the best for the future," and not have to get into a bunfight with her. Bunfights being her home territory.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/09/2023 13:29

user1846385927482658 · 15/09/2023 13:24

It's curious how much pleasure so many posters seem to take from attacking strangers. Like watching a mob getting their thrills from giving someone a kicking.

It's curious how many people come onto a thread and comment without actually reading or understanding the issues being raised.

Incidentally, calling posters 'a mob' who are 'attacking strangers' is a good example of what you're pursing your lips over. Irony, gotta love it.

willWillSmithsmith · 15/09/2023 13:31

FrangipaniBlue · 15/09/2023 12:42

Because people are not all identical little robots.

They have different personalities and respond differently to be spoken to in different ways.

Being a good manager is being able to understand that and respond accordingly.

Are you a recent grad?

IfOn · 15/09/2023 13:33

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/09/2023 12:35

Whenever I see jobs being advertised as "tight knit blah blah...", I steer far left

And given your attitude to older people in the workplace I'm sure they'd be grateful if they knew what a bullet they'd dodged.

And given the attitude of older people towards the younger ones in the workplace I'm not the one the dodge the bullet.

Thepeopleversuswork · 15/09/2023 13:33

IfOn · 15/09/2023 12:26

What I find in these "tight knit" Small work places are a bunch of older people who have worked there for donkeys feeling threatened when someone (specifically a younger person) comes in.

Whenever I see jobs being advertised as "tight knit blah blah...", I steer far left.

She has a right to point out if she feels you were accusing her of something. You also have the right to explain yourself. Times are changing OP and you and your tight knit crew ain't gonna be working there forever.

So now that you and your little friends got her fired, hopefully your MD can hire another "older" member of staff that you can twiddle around as you please.

Sorry but this is a batshit interpretation of what happened.

First off she hasn't been fired.

Second, there's no evidence that there's any clubbiness going on - this is your overlay onto the situation. Nothing the OP has posted has indicated that they are ganging up against her. She's behaved very unprofessionally to three members of staff, it would be insane if that weren't taken into account. In no way can someone that incompetent be considered a "threat" and you have no reason to think that OP and other senior members of staff are incompetent.

This is someone with a clear victim complex whose behaviour is by any measure entitled and behaves poorly: she has in three unrelated cases asked senior managers to apologise to her for having reprimanded her on not delivering work she was asked to do (apparently politely and respectfully). And in one case actually threatened someone senior to her.

This is not someone who can cope with her job and it shouldn't be the job of more senior staff to pander to this nonsense.

AliOlis · 15/09/2023 13:34

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/09/2023 13:15

Could you go into a little more detail there?

Don't unleash the floodgates, fgs 😂.

iloveeverykindofcat · 15/09/2023 13:36

Oh lord OP, get rid while you legally can.

This will not be worth it.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/09/2023 13:36

IfOn · 15/09/2023 13:33

And given the attitude of older people towards the younger ones in the workplace I'm not the one the dodge the bullet.

I'd suggest that if you're finding this in every workplace you've been in it might not be the attitude of the older people that's the problem.

willWillSmithsmith · 15/09/2023 13:36

Have I read the OP update right and this person has sent another email to another colleague demanding an apology from them too? If that’s the case then glad to hear she’s getting the boot, she has trouble written all over her.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/09/2023 13:38

AliOlis · 15/09/2023 13:34

Don't unleash the floodgates, fgs 😂.

Sorry sorry sorry 😂. Those type of comments amuse me - poster plops onto the thread, make some comment with no context at all then disappears into the ether leaving everyone else going 'wot?'

FishingWithBobAndPaul · 15/09/2023 13:39

Your colleague did not complete the task. Renaming it and saving it in the wrong place was a mistake and meant others could not access essential info. Rather than asking for an apology, they should be giving one.

Termination is the right thing for everyone.

FishingWithBobAndPaul · 15/09/2023 13:41

I've never had a written apology in work. Didn't know it was a thing.

AliOlis · 15/09/2023 13:42

FishingWithBobAndPaul · 15/09/2023 13:41

I've never had a written apology in work. Didn't know it was a thing.

It's not a thing.

GustyFinknottle · 15/09/2023 13:42

Megifer · 15/09/2023 12:18

Great update op you've handled this really well 😊

Just be a bit mindful that as I said earlier, if this HR consultant is via an external company they will likely initially suggest you extend probation and give opportunity to improve OR that you give 24-48 hrs notice of the meeting in advance and to put in writing that the outcome of the meeting may be dismissal and offer right to be accompanied.

This is best practice but with short service employees without protected characteristics at play, the risk of doing a "tap on shoulder" dismissal is very very low to zero.

In these situations all an advance warning would achieve is give her time to go and get signed off with stress, dragging it out.

Ask the advisor what the specific legal risk is of taking a commercial decision in this situation by not giving notice of the meeting or not following a performance improvement plan - there won't be one.

And make arrangements to have access to IT systems revoked the second the meeting is over.

Good luck!

On my lunch break. I was stunned by the MD's response, I've not seen him that decisive before. When I originally asked him to authorise HR advice because we had a problem he didn't seem interested. He didn't like what he saw in the emails, including in mine. He thought I wasn't businesslike enough and gave her too much room for manoeuvre, which is why I need training, apparently. He'll have been thinking only of the bottom line. It's a small company, costs are everything, and he'll have been thinking of the cost to the business if she needs to be removed later.

I'd had a look through some of the emails she'd sent to my colleagues and had seen the requests for apologies but had managed to miss the threat implicit in that line about needing to develop empathy. I'd read it more as the new recruit wagging a finger. Which was inappropriate, but then so are most of her email communications. I was sitting in the car waiting for the MD to arrive this morning and checking the emails were in the correct order and this time when I read it I the threatening tone seemed clear.

The MD has told the HR consultant that he doesn't want to go down the pathway of extended probation and to get this over with quickly. I'm hoping that the HR advisor won't put up obstacles to negotiate. I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed as it is. As soon as it was announced that I was taking over my manager's duties I received several requests that people had been sitting on in the hope he'd be back imminently.

Thank you for the ACAS recommendation, I'll start there. My big concern is that I don't let anything slip to the new recruit or anyone else. I'm going off site for the HR meeting so that we're not overheard on the premises.

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