Message for Xenia

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What I would like to ask is how exactly do you find so much spare time to chat on these boards about earning between £100k and £250k when you have five children of your own and also what seems must be a very demanding full time job?

I have just one child and a very part time job and this will be about the only 5 minutes I get to luxuriate on the internet?

You sound like a different species from me Uwila, and I make a point of not trying waste time on what I deem a lost cause

and you have some spelling issues like your leader... Gearoge Bush

On one thread today on Education someone referred to a political correctness about mn. We don't want that. We want right and left wing, SAHM and working and combinations of them all, never mind men on mn. We don't want one view - that it's a cosy club where we all self congratulate because we're all left wing state school women must work part time, men are the real earners or whatever the prevailing ideology is. Everyone must feel comfortable.

But why does the abuse come from those from the hardcore PC group? I suppose that just says a lot about them. Those who descend to abuse tell us a lot about themselves and very little about those who they abuse without being able to demolish their arguments. It says it all. Give people enough rope and they hang themselves.

You wouldn't descend to abuse though, would you? After all, calling other people prostitutes is so very helpful.

"Stay at home motherhood and marriage really is arguably glorified prostitution"

Oh, Xenia

Well it is.... you put out and you get paid. It's a classic feminist argument, not mine. How any woman has the self respect to live off the earnings of a man. .... anyway you've provoked me so you'll have to put up with feeling abused.

ahem, who says i put out??/ dp would have something to say about that

I don't feel abused. In fact your remarks are becoming so preposterous I'm really beginning to enjoy them

It's a pity you can't see human relationships in any terms other than the purely transactional, though, it must be a very lonely way to be. I had heard there were people like you, but ad never really encountered one. It's very interesting, do keep posting.

'marriage really is arguably glorified prostitution'

Then, why, pray tell, were you once married?

No expat. It only becomes prostitution if you don't work. I WASN'T a prostitute when I was working (although I earned less than dh, so amybe I was leaning in that direction), but I am NOW.

It's an argument of many people use. I don't particularly believe it. It's not my core belief but I don't think I would ever have liked to be economically dependent on a man. I don't think prostitution is wrong anyway so therefore it's not a criticism to liken any other kinds of relationship to that.

I suppose the average mumsnet marriage which seems to be virtually sex free (see myriad of no sex in marriage threads) the man pays and doesn't even get the sex back.

doesn´t bother me if you think I´m a tart - I like being a whore in the bedroom

however, having self respect, whilst living off the earnings of a man... we know dh can earn more than me atm and as a partnership we consider money earned as "our" money. If I had a money pinching partner who monitored my spending then that they would be controlling and I would not stand for it. I would rather live "off" my man than have someone else bring up my kids while I work for "the man" iykwim.

Yes, HMC that's much better.

You coming to the Christmas Meet-up tomorrow?

You are not opposed to prostitution? I knwe you would have to say something sometime with which I could disagree.

Glad to be of service Uwila!

Nope, but have a good one.

What on earth is going on in here? Why has everyone been talking about Xenia for what seems like the last 3 years? Why haven't I got umpteen threads discussing me?

obviously my post was not insulting enough

Xenia needs her own site. I think she'd have an avid audience for XeniaNet.

Prostitution? A lot of countries have legalised it. Do we think men and women shouldn't be allowed to sell their bodies? It's legal in the UK although some activities relating to it are not.

"I suppose the average mumsnet marriage which seems to be virtually sex free (see myriad of no sex in marriage threads) the man pays and doesn't even get the sex back."

well I chuckled at that

When I was pg with dd1 I earnt more than dh, I had a great well paid career, but we decided that we both wanted was for our daughter to be looked after by a parent and chose me. Does that mean at that point I became a prostitute - fgs.

A little something as I have to disappear for a bit now...

"Consider the traditional marriage. The bride?s father pays a dowry to the groom or his family for taking on the burden of providing financial support for the bride. Marrying ?well,? in fact, is still understood to mean that one?s chosen has a lot of money or assets, which will now become property of both partners.

In exchange for financial support, traditionally, the bride will become available to the groom sexually and will bear him children and take care of his home. Though the exchange includes much more than sex, it does quite plainly contemplate that sex will be providedfor the man, and that money will be provided for the woman.

It is in part for this reason that most states did not recognize marital rape as a criminal offense until relatively recently. By marrying, a man was understood to have purchased a season pass to sexual favors from his wife.

In other words, prostitution is illegal because it brings to the surface an aspect of marriage that many people would prefer not to admit exists. "
hereticalideas.com/?p=2828

The thing I respect about Xenia is that she is true to her own thoughts. I would have changed faiths by now if I had to cope with such lenghty and ridiculous cross examination.

So, I think she is pretty strong, the sort of woman who knows what she wants and is ready to fight for it. I'm not surprised any more at her rising 5 children on her own and managing to cover the expenses to send them all to a good boarding school.