Dr Upton in the news again

[Sparkyduchess]

I see the lovely Dr Upton is in the news again, who didn’t see this coming 🙄

i feel for the woman facing this, and troubling that she was worried she’d be bullied into accepting treatment from him

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16235793/Doctor-quit-UK-Peggie-trans-row-centre-gender-storm-Australia-known-Lis.html

@TransParentlyAnnoyed doesn’t think that women’s consent when it comes to delivering intimate medical care needs to be respected.

Isn’t that revolting?

"waited while women changed, asking them why they weren't getting on with changing."

Sorry Imdunfer, it was Rose at Darlington who kept asking the nurses why they weren't getting changed yet.

The rest of it was accurate though, and Dr Upton did admit he would continue to give intimate examinations to female patients who had already requested, or let it be known that they needed a female HCP for intimate examinations - aka sexually assault his female patients.

OK sorry I mixed the two perverts abusive males up.

He’s just makes himself an absolute shit magnet, doesn’t he? I note the name change, handily making him not come up should anyone google his new assumed name. This won’t be the last time we hear about him either, I’d put money on it.

As for a certain poster here, your twisted sense of ethics isn’t even in the gutter, it’s gone sailing off down the sewer.

The poor woman he’s imposing himself on? Yes I quite agree.

It is, but par for the course with these types really.

I read it that way, there’s no way they would have he/himed him if they saw him as a laydeee.

I seem to remember he called himself “Elizabeth Upton” on some consultation he responded to.

Oh, you know what? That's revealed my blind spot: I didn't even notice that the poor woman had been brutally misgendered. Must report for re-education immediately.

You think this is about "trans woman has a job"?

This won't bother you, I know, but it will help me to be able to tell you that you have sunk so low in my opinion I would have to scrape you off the bottom of my shoe to listen to another word of yours on the trans issue.

He probably has his little notebook at the ready again, wouldn't you say? Busily taking down any signs of transgression against the One True Faith.

Edited as superfluous.

Yes, which he seems to chop and change the shortened versions of as and when it suits, and in this case probably to avoid the stink that surrounds the previous version.

Honestly have a day off. It’s just boring now.

Shitgibbon?

Don’t hold back now!

Didn’t he pretty much tell us he would do this.

It is no surprise.

He went to Australia because female people have very little support to push back on his demands at the moment. It is really a shitfight there at the moment until the law gets changed.

Yes they are clearly cut from the same abusive/perverse cloth, with one (in his boxers with holes in) expecting nurses to get their kit off in front of him and chivvying them along when they were taking too long about it for his liking, and the other unashamedly admitting to the world he'd sexually assault a female patient in his care.

It's horrifying that these men are employed in any capacity where they would have access to vulnerable women when they both exhibit clearly predatory behaviour.

I still struggle with the thought that Upton wasn't struck off for admitting he'd sexual assault a female patient. I still struggle with the thought that anyone would view what he said as anything less than an admission that he would sexually assault female patients given the opportunity to do so.

Well he made a clear statement of intent in a court room that while in a position of responsibility he had no respect for women's needs or boundaries if they conflicted with his own wishes.

The problem he and most activists have is the inability to accept that not everyone can or will join in with their choice of identity, particularly in moments of vulnerability. There are always going to be women who need to say no, and cannot indulge the man's wishes. A sensible approach would be a quiet, sensitive one that understands and sympathises with this, and to not put themselves and women into this situation where a confrontation sooner or later is inevitable.

Women cannot be forced to comply and submit. There will never be an end to women saying no, and kicking off about this. It's pointless to not work out that a more sensitive and respectful approach towards women is needed. And he's been through this once, so the question really does arise as to why he's tried it again - so I have no sympathy he's back in the press.

And the question arises again: a medic who chooses to put women patients in this position, to put his own needs above theirs and to try to force contact against their consent should not be dealing with patients. Basic capacity issue.

You really can't keep a not-so-good man down.

Well done to the patient's husband.

Also, as a fly Fifer I should like to apologise to Oz for our inadvertent export of our problem.

New country, new name, same old bloke causing the same old problems.

"It is understood the incident occurred when a middle-aged woman was admitted and became concerned after recognising the doctor as male and said so, causing other staff to become involved."

Surely not, nobody can tell.

I'm glad the women's rights organisation are calling attention to this, I especially hope they can help protect the patient because I don't doubt action will be taken against her

Meanwhile Theo seems to have fallen on his feet, $110,000 a year in a middle class Alphabettie community, everyone's darling, the role of a lifetime.

It's the openly owned view of this activism: that women's consent is not something relevant. The woman's place is to submit to the man's desire to express his inner self upon her in whatever way.

Which pretty much sums up why this should be prevented in law. It's not a healthy view of others to put it mildly.

If i was an activist - thinking as one -

I would really have to consider, when a man chooses to put a woman in this position (again), and she kicks off and takes it to the press, and everyone learns a bit more about the attitudes involved, and the sympathy for women rises, and another step is taken towards preventing men being able to do this to women....

is it really a sensible or helpful thing for him to have done? What is the benefit? Is it really only because in the moment he wants to and isn't thinking any further? And does that make him fit to practice, in a situation where his patient's needs should come first above his own desires and needs, where the patient is not there to provide him with anything at all, and where the power imbalance is obvious?

If a man in such a situation smiles, says yes of course, let me find someone else, (that's assuming she hadn't asked for single sex and he went anyway, which I can't see clearly in the article but would be obviously an awful thing to do albeit exactly what he stated his intent of doing in court during the SP case) she would have thought ok, nice guy, and that would have been the end of it with no bad feeling or further issues. No negative publicity, no possible court case. Surely a better political approach?

Reminds me of

There will never be an end to women saying no, and kicking off about this.

I agree. As we have seen here in the UK, once it starts to unravel, the whole thing just goes, and it will unravel someday. Because the only logical alternative is for women to just roll over and play dead (which they won't do) and, even if they think that's their only option, it's very clear that their husbands and male partners will not allow this. So it will fall apart at some point. Upton and his ilk will run out of road.

He can change his name as many times as he likes. The internet never forgets, AI will eventually connect all the dots, and his only recourse will be to move to yet another country. I wonder if he might find himself in jail before then, however.

Oh, yes he has. He's made it clear that he will treat a woman who has specifically asked for a female doctor with the expectation that means a biologically female one, not a man with womanly feelings.