Redvers v NHS Sussex Integrated Care Board & Mr Adam Doyle Thread 2

[fanOfBen]

Minimal thread-starting:
TT:
https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/redvers-v-nhs-sussex-integrated-care

Thread 1:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5586672-wellbn-brighton-gp-practice-do-not-believe-in-evidence-based-medicine-tt-at-employment-tribunal-tomorrow

This is so much worse than I initially thought it was going to be.

In fairness, there may also have been a supply of clicky pens involved.

This is just shocking behaviour.
And he's been caught up to his neck concealing evidence. AGAIN!!!

From TT:

CM The fact the C got this info by happenstance shows u wld be prepared to conceal these treatments
No
CM So if C hadnt used DC she'd get this info
I dont know
CM But no RS disclosed this
No
CM Can u explain stark diff in treatment of C and DSH

CM Yr refusing to disclos DSHs ID w/out a court order in 24 but going for the C in 23
AD I accept the 2nd above but no the 1st
CM patient x was one of many patients but was over 18 by the time of PSIR
I dont know
CM 78 patients had signif risk of mental or physical harm in PSIR
Yes

CM Wld u agree that PSIR concerns closely correlate to the Cs concerns to NHSE and GMC
Yes
CM If her concerns had been taken seriously is a possibility they wld have avoided harm
Not w/out looking at cases and not the right person to assess them

What, four colour ones? I'm in

I hope his diary that the judge has absolutely fucks his narrative!

He pretends he knows nothing in his WS and is shown to have known everything on the stand. What a liar.

I collect them.

I have a substantial amount of different ones!

CM 78 patients had signif risk of mental or physical harm in PSIR
Yes

Do we know if the review covered all patients or was a subset surveyed?

Do you have a spinny chair? ( But not a spinny skirt I hope)

No.

Should I get one?

Pen anyone?

I'm not sure.

Can I claim 4 x 4 coloured pens for DH? He loves 'em but sadly cannot keep hold of them.

Ooh yes

From TT:

CM Prospect of harm
AD Repeats above
CM Instead a biased flawed Ix into the C
Yes
Cm p1660: detr re failing to implement SD recommendations which is 12. In terms of yr engagement w SD u were asked to provide info by SD in March 22 or by ?. p1685

Cm p1741, email to u w notes of mtg. p1740 has notes w some ammendments. Where are they? [Mr Doyle and Mundy]
I'm not sure
CM No such docs have been found in searches. why have the email but not the attachments/ammendments?
Idk
CM Why not the notes Mundy mtg w DA
Idk

Cm p1789/90: email asking for assurance that C acted in good faith and ongoing risks to her be removed
J it's dr robson??
CM Forgive me. Do u accept she wants assurances at the mtg w you that there'll be no reprisals
Yes
CM And she doesnt get them does she
AD In the mtg,

AD I outlined how to appraoch the sitn and I say DA report and Cx put aside. To support her and move the org forward
CM p1862: ms robson forwarded to you, interim CPO, re no case to answer and u said y'd go back the the complainant

Yes [re no mixed msgs being given]
Yes
CM Mentions potential legal avenue in the future and fear of speaking up to prevent harm
Yes
CM The Robson email to u: that clarity was never provided
I think it was. Had a mtg w Robson, C and ? I frame thr possible options I had. Cx not looked at and DA not taken forward.

I'm a bugger! I have so many pens, and yet I never have one to hand when I need one. I tried sticking one on a lanyard round my neck but just ended up with biro all over my top.

<totally ignores the request for pens. Mine all mine! >

I think we all know now where his pens have gone...
no names, no packdrill, but having 6 limbs probably makes making of with other people's clicky pens easy..😏

Didn't they exclude all patients who had already turned 18? I may be misremembering this, though.

I'm not entirely convinced that he's bright enough to realise what a complete areshole he's looking like to those observing his evidence.

I've been advised by my solicitor to say "no comment"

Am I right in understanding this as Sussex failed to disclose multiple relevant documents to the Claiment? Is that legal?

They can't claim they don't have them - the emails exist so the attachments must also be recoverable.

'I don't recall' is also a popular choice.

From TT:

And told DSH not taking it forward
CM The picture was mixed, reflected by Robsons own queries about where things had landed and the email.
J Let's go to the email
CM The one we've just looked at. If issues unclear to HR and the C they're not put to bed
I think they were

The workshop that all agreed to attend ??
CM The C was never told she'd acted in good faith
No
CM In fact u say to her, [reads re the complainant and the C cld change her practice]
No. I met w DSH, CMO and C each. I understood they had 5 days to appeal so I'll wait until that
has passed. Am trying to resolve where e'one is at

CM Y'd already met w DSH
Not sure, they were all close together
CM U discuss a vexatious referral
Yes, I used these words
CM Do u know access werent vexatious
AD I now see referrals to GMC and NHSE were appropraite

There seems to be so many missing documents it's ridiculous!

From TT:

AD As the Cx came into me from DSH. I dont regard the referrals as vexatious
CM Would u accept this trial is 1st time that's made clear
AD Idk
CM p74 of WS bundle: [reads re nor feeling able to raise concerns in this org again]
That's her statement
CM U cld have said, we got this wrong, carry on

CM U dont say anything like that
It was v clear and it felt w Anesh and Alsion. that how concerns were raised felt v confusing. Re raising SG concerns, it seemed we cld do better about how to raise concerns and how to get it right.