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PassTheHanky · Yesterday 19:10

Thank you to @MarieDeGournay, I'd be grateful if you could count me in please.
I'm sure Sarah will be aware that she'll be getting talked about publicly because of the on-going ET so I would hope she welcome some positive feedback from supportive mumsnetters.

MarieDeGournay · Yesterday 20:26

Thank you everybody, I got 37 likes!!

I take your point, MyThreeWords, all I have in mind is a short fairly formal message saying something like :
1st draft of 9😄
Could you please pass on to Sarah [Dr Redvers?] a message of appreciation and support from those of us who have been following her tribunal online..
We admire her strength and resolve and send our best wishes.
signed Some Mumsnetters

PS Thanks BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn but my gmail a/c could be anywhere so it'll be grand.

RogueFemale · Yesterday 20:26

MyThreeWords · Yesterday 17:51

Just a word of caution, not everyone would feel pleased about an email of that sort. Perhaps she would like it, but perhaps not. Lots of people would find it a bit awful to be spoken of extensively online, even the positive comments. And an actual email on top of that might seem intrusive. She has already been through the mill so much that it doesn't seem a good idea to risk making things worse.

It's well known that MN has a lot of GC users, and if she wants to read MN and see the support for her here, she can easily do so. It may even be that some of the comments here would be ones that she finds upsetting. Posts poking fun at tribunal witnesses might just intensify the social tension/horror of the whole experience.

I agree.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · Yesterday 20:52

MarieDeGournay · Yesterday 20:26

Thank you everybody, I got 37 likes!!

I take your point, MyThreeWords, all I have in mind is a short fairly formal message saying something like :
1st draft of 9😄
Could you please pass on to Sarah [Dr Redvers?] a message of appreciation and support from those of us who have been following her tribunal online..
We admire her strength and resolve and send our best wishes.
signed Some Mumsnetters

PS Thanks BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn but my gmail a/c could be anywhere so it'll be grand.

Maybe call her "Dr Sarah Redvers"? Acknowledges her professional status without being too formal?

KittyWilkinson · Yesterday 21:18

I agree, refer to her as Dr Sarah Redvers. Bearing in mind @MyThreeWords important points.

I think perhaps mention her commitment to the safeguarding of young people. Also, that we've been following via TT, NW and remotely rather than "online" as it's been a mix and credit where it's due.

She may prefer NOT to read the threads. I'm not sure that I would manage it. Sign it from FWR members MN? She might not want a list of bonkers user names after her own real name has been publicly bounced around everywhere.
Short, warm, yet professional.

DauntlessDamson · Yesterday 21:24

I'm sure that, having Charlotte Elves as one of her barristers, Dr Redvers will be aware of followers on both TT and Mumsnet taking a keen interest in her case.

ETA So it probably wouldn't come as too much of a surprise if she receives a message of support.

JanesLittleGirl · Yesterday 21:51

I have sent an email to [email protected] (Sarah's solicitor) with the heading Dr Sarah Redfers saying how wonderful I think that her stand has been and that I would be grateful if he could pass on my support if he thinks that it is appropriate.

MarieDeGournay · Yesterday 22:03

JanesLittleGirl · Yesterday 21:51

I have sent an email to [email protected] (Sarah's solicitor) with the heading Dr Sarah Redfers saying how wonderful I think that her stand has been and that I would be grateful if he could pass on my support if he thinks that it is appropriate.

That 'breaks the ice' so another email won't be out of the blueSmile
Draft #2 of 9
Could you please pass on to Dr Sarah Redvers a message of appreciation and support from those of us who have been following her tribunal remotely via Tribunal Tweets and Nick Wallis.
We admire her strength and resolve and her commitment to the safeguarding of young people. We send her our best wishes.
signed
Some Mumsnetters

It was not my intention to list usernames, and I was thinking of NOT mentioning the Feminism: Sex and gender discussions board, just 'some MNers'.
Any better was of saying 'some Mumsnetters'? A group of....?

KittyWilkinson · Yesterday 22:08

That looks fine to me @MarieDeGournay Thanks so much

MarieDeGournay · Yesterday 22:25

I'll check in tomorrow to see all the suggestions etc.
G'night all🌛

lcakethereforeIam · Yesterday 22:36

A terven of MNers 😁

Hedgehogforshort · Yesterday 22:41

I love @MarieDeGournay and she knows i do she is so lovely

EdithStourton · Today 00:42

Terven sounds good.

FarriersGirl · Today 07:15

Sounds good please include my support. Thanks

anyolddinosaur · Today 07:44

@MarieDeGournay It was 37 likes when you posted, I hope it is still rising but some people may have missed the suggestion of a like on your post as a means of expressing support. With the exception of our TRA visitors I'd expect all users of this board, including the ones who dont actually post, to support Dr Redvers as she's been trying to safeguard young people from medical malpractice. It's a medical scandal that she has needed to do this.

MarieDeGournay · Today 10:31

anyolddinosaur · Today 07:44

@MarieDeGournay It was 37 likes when you posted, I hope it is still rising but some people may have missed the suggestion of a like on your post as a means of expressing support. With the exception of our TRA visitors I'd expect all users of this board, including the ones who dont actually post, to support Dr Redvers as she's been trying to safeguard young people from medical malpractice. It's a medical scandal that she has needed to do this.

Thanks dino, I was interpreting the 'likes' as 'we think it's a good idea, go ahead Marie' rather than individual usernames being added.

I love 'a terven of MNers' but I don't think it's in keeping with a formal, neutral message [pace MyThreeWordsSmile]
Any other suggested sign-offs?
and no, I won't be added our pronouns😂

MarieDeGournay · Today 10:39

Hedgehogforshort · Yesterday 22:41

I love @MarieDeGournay and she knows i do she is so lovely

Thank you Hedgehogforshort that's such a lovely message, it means a lot, sometimes I get sneered at IRL for 'being so nice' but I don't care, it's how I am and it's good to get positive feedback about it.

It's funny to think that it comes across even though I this is an anonymous forum and I am <spoiler alert!> not really 'MarieDeGournay.' I could have invented a confrontative, stroppy, mouthy online persona, but I didn't😒

It's also funny that the only time I've had a post deleted by MNHQ, it was because I hadn't been nice enough to one of our scolding visitors, I was excessively unpleasant or sarcastic or something!

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · Today 10:39

'Terven' would require a footnote with definition.

If we're not listing names (sensible) I think the usual phrasing would be to start 'I'm writing on behalf of a large group of Mumsnetters' and to sign it only from yourself. There isn't really a convention for collective sign offs without names.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · Today 10:42

(Pronouns: eppur/si/muove).

MarieDeGournay · Today 10:50

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · Today 10:39

'Terven' would require a footnote with definition.

If we're not listing names (sensible) I think the usual phrasing would be to start 'I'm writing on behalf of a large group of Mumsnetters' and to sign it only from yourself. There isn't really a convention for collective sign offs without names.

Ooooh that's a good solution, thank you BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn!

'I'm writing on behalf of a large group of Mumsnetters who have been following the Redvers v NHS Sussex tribunal remotely via Tribunal Tweets and Nick Wallis.

We would be grateful if you could pass on to Dr Sarah Redvers this message of appreciation and support.

We admire her strength and resolve and her commitment to the safeguarding of young people. We send her our best wishes.'

I'll sign my real name as it's from my gmail a/c.

Howzat?

heathspeedwell · Today 10:51

That is perfect!

KittyWilkinson · Today 10:55

@MarieDeGournay I'm feeling a bit mean in hindsight about adding to your burden. We really don't want you to have to do nine versions! I think on this occasion, take the Judges advice. Do it once, and we know you'll do it well!
Míle buíochas.

MarieDeGournay · Today 11:00

KittyWilkinson · Today 10:55

@MarieDeGournay I'm feeling a bit mean in hindsight about adding to your burden. We really don't want you to have to do nine versions! I think on this occasion, take the Judges advice. Do it once, and we know you'll do it well!
Míle buíochas.

I've managed to do it to 3 or 4 drafts not nine - gizza job, NHS Sussex, I'd be much better at it than your lot😂

Tá fáilte romhat, a Kitty agus romhaibh go léir
You're welcome Kitty and everybody.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · Today 11:02

Perfect. Thank you.

MarieDeGournay · Today 12:28

Thanks for all the suggestions.
✔Version as at 10.50 sent to her solicitor.

It's very formal, I hope she read between the lines that we're cheering her on cos think she's brill and we'd love to show our appreciation by standing her a drink or two at the Bluestocking, or something😃