Redvers v NHS Sussex Integrated Care Board & Mr Adam Doyle Thread 2

[fanOfBen]

Minimal thread-starting:
TT:
https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/redvers-v-nhs-sussex-integrated-care

Thread 1:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5586672-wellbn-brighton-gp-practice-do-not-believe-in-evidence-based-medicine-tt-at-employment-tribunal-tomorrow

From TT:

May be concerns re future and how to get right. Asked how to get it right in future
CM [reads email betwen C and AD incl transparency and honesty and thanking the C] Do u accept this is about Cs beliefs? It seems to have been only a failure to speak to DSH in advance

CM Is there anything separable from the referrals to NHSE and GMC. To the extent...
BW This is for subs
CM WR said is difficult to speak to each other ahead of referrals.
Yes
CM The SG team rebuffed by WB. U sit w C for an hour, invoke 2 of Nolan principles but dont tell her the GMC and NHSE has notice of DA

From TT:

CM Supp p250 after July mtg and SD: 15 Aug 2022 . What are u discussing w NHSE here?
AD I'd met w DSH, C and Gill. Recognising that until had spokent to all 3 I wasnt sure where it wld all land, the DA report wldnt be used and we shld try to move forward

CM This arrived in Sept 26 but y'd already signed to say y'd disclosed all - p249 in suppl 2. Why only rec this last Monday
AD As yday I asked for it to be checked again and this is what came up
CM What does finalise e'thing mean?
In terms of my recollection I had Sd report,
met the 3 docs, told AD nothing being done w it and then get into repair workshop after SD

Having but one leg to stand on.

I wonder if these past few days is the most attention AD has paid to work related issues in years?

From TT:

AD The letters go out close to my leave
CM Para 86 of yr WS: u say yr role to ensure recs implemeted
Yes, letter was to me
CM Mr Smith says was told to do it
Yes, In disc w my new chair. Was recruiting new l'ship team to take actions forward
CM Yr letter p1906 to the C

CM U talk a good game AD - big assurances of action
AD I didnt see as a game. I talk about the plans I'm going to make
CM p43 supp2: email Sept 22, wld u agree that Sinha and Cannon and Mr Smith cc-ed. Shlf have been to CM?NO
All 3 shld have a role
CM U suggest no timeline for any of this

AD is getting a bit emotional in his tone.

I think he's on his pre-lunch prepared speech.

I'm staggered at the level of incompetence and ignorance this man is showing and he gets paid ££££££££ for it. Little wonder the NHS is in the state it is in, and all other institutions funded by the public.

This is giving me PTSD flashbacks of my grievance with the NHS. They just blatantly lied and lied and wouldn’t allow me to produce documents that would prove their lies.

I should have taken them to tribunal but I was too broken. The process is the punishment and I’m not very strong. Thank goodness for the Sandies, the Bethanys, the Sarahs, the Jennifers.

From TT:

CM Then u say u plan to be no longer involved and expect them to manage this
Yes
CM I've been asked if I'm micromanaging. The org was in a better state than earlier. All 8 CGCs had signif difficulties. I'd recruited new leaders and the role of leader of CGC and ICB different

CM I went thru the proper CEO interview process. My new chair wanted me to be more strategic. We'd been thru so much change process on all these orgs. My overall l'ship and my new leaders had delegated duties
CM The SD report into the Flynn Ix: the CGC reviewed contract w DA

I passed it on, I was no longer involved (pass the hot potato, let someone else take the flack from the TRAs /the legal fall out down the line).

Christmas present sorted? A monthly delivery arrangement, like flowers?

Is the defence now roughly 'it could have been worse for the Claimant'????

From TT:

as the Ix didnt align with its terms of ref. U considered asking for £ back. Did this happen
Idk, wld have to ask
CM U met SD in May 2022 p1746.
Yes
CM re emails btwn u and NHSE u were trying to get a sense w them
No, just of timescales

AD I think this came from my 1-2-1 w Galliano, and I said I'd not heard anything for a while. I was told it wld take longer than expected
CM p1679: SD concluded re impact on SG team - as a direct result of the Ix feel professionally vulnerable and unsupported by the ICB

Or this...

Surely in this tribunal the judge can't find the respondents did nothing wrong? Surely!!

They didn't do anything right so far!

From TT:

DAs report had had a profound effect on the C [v fast]
Yes
CM So shld have sent a msg to the SG team they shld feel comfy raising concerns
Yes
CM Esp w treatments like CSH
Yes
CM When did Sinha start?
Around May 2022

CM p167 of supp: Rs position re bundle contents [reads re docs provided with no relevance to the case eg relating to Tavistock] No criticism of MLF
Sinha was med director of the Tavistock
Yes
CM p1043: start of Appleby judgement. Wld u agree she raised GIDS SG concerns

I am deeply shocked - and to be honest upset- senior staff were knowingly and deliberately refusing to safeguard children referred to the trans Dr. As the evidence has continued it has clarified their total dereliction of duty and contempt for children's safety and welfare in the name of 'trans'. To me, this should be a criminal case, but nothing ever happens to punish trans extremist NHS staff.

I am posting this info again in case anyone hasn't read the previous thread:

'No need to feel sorry for this witness. He knew what was happening and deliberately ignored the fact children were being harmed by a trans activist Dr.

And it's possibly a pattern.

He was also CEO in 2023 when it came to light one of his senior Trust Drs was supporting the use of infants who are children of transpeople as sexual props (by men/dads who Id as trans -with the sexual fetish 'lactophilia') - against all evidence based medicine and child safeguarding.

To get the babies protected, the Dr investigated and policy addressed, Children of Transitioners group had to go the the press, Heath Secretary and GMC, after which the NHS England CEO also intervened.

A lot of these people need to do jail time.

And my goodness, what a heroine Dr Redvers is!

... as the Ix didnt align with its terms of ref. U considered asking for £ back. Did this happen
Idk, wld have to ask

Is this asking if he let his mate keep the money after their flawed investigation? Is there an implied, you let them keep the money because they delivered what you agreed on?

It looks like she should get a public honour for services to medical safeguarding for refusing to let this drop.

God I'm so pissed with this man.

From TT:

CM which are protected disc and she was victimised for her SG WB concerns. We see trib findings on Sinha: any employee [reads fast and motorbike so ?] In some ways it was worse than a disciplinary as cldnt appeal and kept on file etc...

CM Status of doc which is worse than disc sanction has a long afterlife. Wld u agree DA report being shared w NHSE and GMC could be viewed as a similar situation?
AD It couldld be
CM [AD asked to read new page ending99]

She really is. She's a tremendously courageous and principled woman who cares for vulnerable young people.

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