Sexism/Racism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 4

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RedToothBrush · Yesterday 20:39

We are going to need at least another 40 pages about this shit show of an anti-Semitic woman hating party...

We started these threads back in May 2025. It keeps getting worse.

You know when you watch a drama and it starts by being comic, then gets darker and darker. The threads started with the rise of Zack Polanski aka Hypno Boobs, Water Titty, ZPy before he became leader watching as he got elected in September 2, 2025.

The Hypnoboobs scandal was of course kind of funny, but what was very revealing was his attempt to paint it as a plot by the media against him. It was gradually revealed he used the drama to his advantage to advertise his business and he did claim to have weird powers over boobs from BBC footage.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

It wasn't just he lied. humans and especially politicians do that. It is rather he refused to take responsibility, and ducked out. He has kept doing it again and again. Exaggerations and lies over claiming support from charities, ducking out of paying taxes, talking over women saying they don't deserve sports or any spaces, about why he swapped from Lib Dem to being Green . It is all very similar to the way many behave particularly blokes from other political parties.

Now the crazy anti Semitism within the party has been growing and ZP has failed to stop it. He did try to block it behind the scenes, but was very reluctant to face it head on. This cumulated in the Greens Conference 2006, when ZP failed to fight against the racist anti-Zionist motion in person. Instead he went to campaign in London for the byelection. Meanwhile guess what the fight back was lead mostly by 4 of the 5 Green MPs, mostly women.

Looking back at the last thread the horror is everything we predicted has come to pass. This is what headed the last thread in May 2006.
Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of anti-Semitic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.
The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power.

The October Conference 2026 was as dark as predicted. The racism was crazy. They banned the words mum and dad. Apparently women have to dress modestly to win Muslim votes. Not only was Green's Women's Declaration banned, but some Greens have now decided that women's biology is so icky they protest talks about it.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16181937/Trans-Green-women-event-female-health.html

Besides ZPy, we also have documented Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it. He has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and one look at his wife shows what he thinks about women. He is also a landlord in a party which is supposedly anti landlord. Ali has been very loud talking about how bad racism is, but also loves being racist.

The other deputy leader Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounded like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. She also is a landlord as well, or rather her partner is. Yet she is the least crazy when violence and racism is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

All of these people are up for re-election in 2027. The drama will be epic.

The media is paying increasing attention to what Mumsnet have been noting for ages. Mumsnet was there during the Challenor scandal which showed how awful the Greens anti-women rhetoric could be.

The Greens control Bristol where they face legal action from women for trying to silence them
https://www.localgovernmentlawyer.co.uk/governance/396-governance-news/99477-gender-critical-campaigners-launch-judicial-review-proceedings-over-council-chamber-ban

Their sexist nonsense has also raised protests in Hackney under the control of Zoe Garbbett with effigies of Andy Burnham being burned.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5527195-zoe-garbett-green-mayor-for-hackney?page=1

Women being silenced in Green controlled Haringey
https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-row-activists-heckle-abuse-labour-councillor

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ continues and they are now taking the Greens to court for banning them from the conference twice for being women. The court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal May 2025
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Third thread - the run up to the Greens Conference in October 2026
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5524462-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-3

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist/racist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Loopy Oubridge
My husband has been in @TheGreenParty for 45 years & I have been in for nearly 30. Today we cancel our direct debit & leave.The rot started with “Transwomen are women, no debate “. Now it is an anti semitic, pro nuclear power party. Not a Green Party.

We fought the no debate nonsense- ridiculous for a political party, struggled when illegal’Queerphobia ‘guidance was used to get rid of free speech.last straw is the antisemitism. They added persecution of Jews to persecution of dissent & destruction of women’s rights.

"...Inshallah..."
Like, really?
This one has the temper tantrum capacity of Rik from The Young Ones, and the cringe "relevance" of Ali G.
They've got to be AI, non-human brain could come up with the cosmic levels of irony displayed by this specimen.

I think that image says it all.

So, stuck around during the last round of cancelling ie imposing trans ideology and cutting dissent.
Yet leaving now in part because of the policy of increasing...nuclear power?
I don't think even the Greens leaving can be described en masse as a logical, reliable bunch.

There was a YouGov survey which appeared on X about ZP (taken before the conference) which included the following:

How would Britons describe Zack Polanski?

This predominant negativity can be seen when asking Britons to describe Zack Polanski, with nearly half of Britons (47%) using at least one negative term in a three-word description of the Green Party leader, relative to just one in six (18%) opting for one or more positive terms.
Among the negative words used, there are some repeating themes. One of these is a feeling of duplicitousness, with 4% of Britons calling Polanski untrustworthy in their description, while references to him being a chancer, a charlatan, dishonest, dodgy or a liar are each made by 2%.
For some critics, rather than fooling others, it is Polanski who is foolish, with 5% labelling him an idiot, 4% viewing him as stupid and another 4% seeing him as deluded. Other criticisms of Polanski each featuring in 4% of three-word descriptions include dangerous, mad and useless, with the same proportion including a swearword or other insult in their summary of the self-proclaimed eco-populist

The Green party was formed out of the campaign for nuclear disarmament so it's not odd or out there. It was a foundational belief of the oldest members so for that policy change to happen at the same conference really shows the shift from the old CND group to anti-Semitism.

Ah but is Polanski's ratings below the joint and equal Corbyn-Sultana/Sultana-Corbyn (and also vice versa) anti Jew partnership (partners, as in a fast failing relationship is still comprised of partners).
These three jokers need to play Truth Or Dare, racist anti-semitic Top Trumps, or The Drinking Game.

Idiot (as in the useful type), Narcissistic and Liar would probably be my three words.

It's a very difficult picture to just pretend it doesn't have many things going on isn't it?

It's depressing on so many levels in terms of the implications.

I wondered if the three word description was “fuck that twat” 😂

Shahrar Ali via twitter about half an hour ago.
BREAKING NEWS: KAFKAESQUE.

Former Green Party deputy leader suspended by Green Party on anniversary of 7 October for criticism of Zionism is Racism motion

Today I was told by the Green Party that I have been suspended again.

I didn't know whether to laugh or cry at the latest Kafkaesque machinations of it all.

I'm already taking the party to court for the second time on grounds of unlawful protected belief discrimination and the main exclusion is due to be lifted in November 2026 even ahead of conclusion of trial.

It feels very much to me that the fanatics in the party are determined to prevent me from exercising my rights as a member and have been allowed to run riot again.

My latest thought crimes are retrospective in nature, for having criticised the Zionism is Racism motion in Spring earlier this year, imploring people not to vote for antisemitic candidates and warning about the damage that would be caused to the party by continuing on this trajectory.

In a week in which the Party has been ungulfed by an antisemitic crisis of epic proportions, it seems I should rather have been commemded for accurately predicting the electoral cost of passing that motion.

Instead the party would shoot the messenger at a time when the party needs all the critical friends it can get to course correct.

As ever, I am defiant in the face of self-evident injustice. I am not the one who has brought the party into disrepute by calling out the disreputable motion and the harm that would be done to the party and wider society by passing it.

The greatest irony of all is that the Party has chosen the anniversary of 7 October to suspend me for calling out the rise of antisemitism in the party. You really couldn't make it up.

We have been told by Polanski that nobody will be disciplined because of this motion. Yet for standing in solidarity with Jews discrimated against by this motion, the party has sought to do just that to me.

What the party has clearly underestimated again is my resolve to expose corruption and unlawful discrimination in our party political institutions.

Pure cinema. Has "Margot" been campaigning with the Sistahs.

This time last year there was at least some level of cognisance from team TRA that Mothin Ali et al had not signed the LGBTQ pledge and This Suggested Something but it's full jihadi Barbie now role play now.

NB as posted elsewhere, a 21 year old man arrested in the US caught in preparation of an ISIS affiliate attack used to use Reddit under the name "ILoveFemboys".

I don't think that's fair with respect to those two. They are part of the remaining sensible Greens doing their best to push back on the lunacy.
In return, they have been subjected to some very underhand and nasty tactics by TRAs to try force them out. I think it's impressive they've stayed this long. They've been treated very badly. When the guy in the video talks about 'crushing dissent', they're the kind of Greens he is targeting.

That green TRA (is he trying to look like Angela Rayner?) is convinced he's in the majority. You can assume he's Very Online.

Just as a side note re all this. Students at Glasgow University yesterday, with a banner that reads 'glory to our martyrs'

They don't mean the Israelis murdered on 7th October, I'm guessing

Greens could face Brighton Centre ban over Zionism motion
Brighton & Hove City Council says the motion is not compatible with its inclusion

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6p9gzg032n4o

The ex-Corbynistas who staged a Green Party putsch

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/10/07/ex-corbynistas-staged-green-party-putsch/

A very interesting question is whether the existing Greens will fight to take the party back, simply give up or leave. Also how our other political parties act and ordinary people.

We will see how it plays out over the next year.

It starts with the election to day. If ZPy is within 4% of Labour things are very bleak.

Honestly I really think these people should just put their actions where their mouths are and go and live in Gaza if they're so in tune with Hamas. It's surely a hate crime against Jews to glorify their murder?

The odd thing about Speitans AQ chum (apart from "they got jihadists in Vietnam?!?) is that Islamists, at least according to Jeremy Bowen, are supposed to despise Islamic nationalists like Hamas or Palestinian Islamic Jihad because under the glorious Caliphate there is no nation state. I remember from early on when Hamas took control in Gaza that an AQ cell was found and Hamas butchered all of them as an existential threat

Before I clicked on the video I assumed it was someone doing an impression of Angela Raynor.

The boys have left the basement.

Polanski is just the useful idiot, no doubt soon to be discarded. He's probably lost some of that cred with those even more extreme than he.

There are still mumblings about Mothin Ali on Reddit. But agree it seems to have been swept under the carpet. I guess we will see how long that holds.

Yes I found the Vietnam connection surprising too, along with the overkill of the bomb plot. Rat poison shrapnel? Fuck me that’s nasty.

I note that picture of Mothin with "the Bangladeshi community" and note the only female is a white woman in a keffiyeh. There are actual women of Bangladeshi origin too. And the Labour candidate is a Muslim woman of Somali origin. But it is completely on trend for The Brothers to seek to undermine a female candidate from their religious community, something which George Galloway is a past master at

This is an example of why young people should not be in charge.

Along with executive functions and emotional regulation that doesn’t fully develop until mid 20’s, very few of them read anymore (I ask this regularly of my students and none read books) or have historical knowledge of the key events on top of having little life experience.

My DH affectionately calls the DCs friends ‘fascists’ because they are all so so certain that their rigid belief in being on TROH runs through all their pronouncements.

Alas our culture of youth will only expand thanks to A.I.

NB How much will the fact that the Labour candidate is a Muslim woman of Somali origin work against her today?