M&S toilet rapist

[ClimbTheLadder]

Turns out last 3 years whilst M&S management have insisted gender neutral ie. Mixed sex facilities are entirely fine they have been aware a teenage girl was raped in the toilets of their Oxford store.

Mumsnet doesn’t like archive links. If you put this link https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/26582305.oxford---man-20-jailed-raping-teenage-girls-public-toilets/ into archive. ph (remove the space) you can read the story.

Those poor girls 😢 sentence is much too short.

Yeah, there's a noticeable "theme" running through those particular posts...

You are right , 'the good men stay out so the bad men stand out' held true up to very recently, and hopefully will soon be re-asserted.

I tried to keep my post very specific, about the risk of rape:
if a women-only space is actually 100% women-only, the risk of rape [UK definition] is zero.
If the 100% women-only status is breached, the risk of rape is no longer zero. Therefore, all men, however they ID, should keep out in order to keep the risk of rape at zero.
[with thoughts for rape survivors for whom this isn't an intellectual exercise] :.

I'd welcome it if anybody who is against, or indifferent to, authentically-women-only women's spaces could point out where that logic is wrong.

A natural consequence of the Great Victory. Enjoy!

You don’t live in the UK do you, your posts on here indicate you’ve no idea what is normal for public/shop toilets in the UK

BY the "Great Victory" I assume you mean the SC clarifying the law and some providers consequently making their facilities mixed sex?

What a strange, sneering take on women wanting their right to privacy and dignity upheld.

Of course I do. What an odd post.

Fortunately the moderators agreed and removed the offensive post.

It is exactly what happened here.

Another example of why women are wary of men in toilets. It’s alarming to see a man in the women’s toilets for evidence based reasons, and telling women they should pretend to be fine with men as long as they are in a dress, is ridiculous.

No you don’t - who are you trying to fool?

You pop up on every bloody thread arguing for trans women to be allowed into female spaces. Endless hairsplitting about it.

You are desperate to demolish any line between women (female adults) and trans women (males who want to be women).

Your posts are the odd posts, you seem to know nothing about how disabled toilets are usually set up in the UK and in general people don’t have to use them personally to have some idea.
Alternative possible explanation is you’re very immature and unobservant.

No, I don't. I've been very clear that I support single sex spaces where appropriate. But sure, you know much better than I about what I think. Odd post.

Where appropriate? When is that ?

As far as alcove is concerned generally never

Please don't misrepresent my views. I've been quite clear in previous posts.

Well we’re still waiting for one of these examples you claim exist….. if there are so many, it’ll be easy to name one right…..

To give two examples - healthcare settings and some toilets should absolutely be single sex.

Who is 'we'?

Is that it ? ?

@alcovecupboards what about schools ? Pubs? Theatres ? Shopping centres ? Airports ? Etc etc

No, it's two examples as the post states. Did you want an exhaustive list? Because I'm afraid I won't be doing that.

Why on earth would schools, pubs, theatres, shopping centres, or airports be single sex? With the possible exception of single sex schools, that list is demonstrably mad. Possibly madder than the woman who wanted a single sex mountain.

So you don’t think schoolgirls should have privacy ?

What on earth are you talking about?

We are discussing toilets yes ? You said that “ some “ toilets should be single sex so I asked about schools and you didn’t agree .

Do you not think that girls and boys should have separate toilets in schools ?