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Stephen King's response to Rowling on sex and gender discussions

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ThisWildDreamer · 03/10/2026 21:33

Stephen King was asked a simple question - are trans women women? - and when he said yes, one of the most wealthy writers in the world turned on him.

J.K. Rowling had just publicly showered him with praise. Within hours of his answer, she deleted it and, in King's words, "sorta blocked" him.

King is one of the most famous novelists alive, and he didn't walk it back or cast himself as the victim. He said plainly that nobody had cancelled Rowling - he just thought she was wrong. He turns 79 today, still saying it.

He could have kept the friend and stayed quiet. He said yes instead.

Stephen King's response to Rowling on sex and gender discussions
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maxslice · Yesterday 03:52

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · Yesterday 00:59

Funny question to ask on a predominately GC forum. It's as though you don't want to know why or want to be told all the reasons why they shouldn't. Why not do the research yourself or just ask trans people?

Because they believe it IS their place. While a significant number of women disagree. But not all women. It’s a mess.

Rollingpinofdoom · Yesterday 05:13

Tears0fTheMushroom · Yesterday 01:30

Don't take it personally. ChoppingNorthernIcelandicBaileyGoodnewsGretel is only here for the scolding.

I always skim past their coma inducing posts these days. Life's too short.

I thought I recognised the tone 😀

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Yesterday 06:18

maxslice · Yesterday 03:52

Because they believe it IS their place. While a significant number of women disagree. But not all women. It’s a mess.

What do you not agree with?

Igneococcus · Yesterday 06:18

MyAmpleSheep · Yesterday 02:14

When you started this thread, were you aware this happened more than six years ago?

And his birthday (according to Wiki, so might not be true) is the 21st September not today.

maxslice · Yesterday 06:36

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Yesterday 06:18

What do you not agree with?

I’m still wrangling with the whole thing. Being a woman, having a daughter and also a nephew who says (and the parents agree) is now my “niece”.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 06:45

gamerchick · 03/10/2026 22:42

That's not what happened. Don't fucking rewrite history.
HE poked the hornets nest out of the blue supporting her and got his arse handed to him by the masses. She thought for a moment that he had her back until he was forced to say trans women are women and then she got a load of hate for it.

There was absolutely no need to stir up the hive like that for no reason. He's a fucking coward. I watched it in real time, it was ages go and no idea why it's being brought up now.

He's disgusting,

Thanks for posting the real details, in light of it I would say the OP has been busted for spreading dis-information, just regurgitating a warped version of old news in an attempted to prop up some warped point about JKR.

So nothing new then, same old, same old.

JamesKirkupReviewWritersFund · Yesterday 06:49

Did I miss a Howse incarnation with a Gretel name? What a lucky gal I am. I have noticed though his arguments (such as they are) are increasingly dialled in, his heart’s not in it and it’s all a bit flaccid

EmmyFr · Yesterday 06:53

@Daygloboo Since you ask what my post means... It means "you are a random human or possibly not asserting something negative which seems wildly at odds with both the accused and the Zeitgeist, do provide a source if you hope to be believed"

And with respect to Stephen Fry, it means SF publicly described her as a former friend who he found "radicalized " (By her sex realism), and she responded by clarifying they had never been more than acquaintances. It doesn't have the same meaning when a public criticism, especially one that you have changed beyond recognition, comes from a real friend or from someone who could not claim to know you deeply in the first place. OP mentioned a friendship between Rowling and King, so should source it as well.

EmmyFr · Yesterday 06:55

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Choppingwoodcarryingwater · Yesterday 07:06

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 06:45

Thanks for posting the real details, in light of it I would say the OP has been busted for spreading dis-information, just regurgitating a warped version of old news in an attempted to prop up some warped point about JKR.

So nothing new then, same old, same old.

Not really. For someone who incessantly bleats about 'no debate' is a tad hypocritical to block some one for stating an opinion.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 07:26

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · Yesterday 07:06

Not really. For someone who incessantly bleats about 'no debate' is a tad hypocritical to block some one for stating an opinion.

Did you read the post I was responding to, it seems SK put out a post, from nowhere, supporting JKR's stand, he then suffered the same pile on she has had to endure, but he, craven coward that he is, changed his stand immediately.
It's not about No Debate, it's about the Utter Contempt she clearly has for him for giving in to the mob. I share her opinion of him, and many other things.
It happened years ago, it's being dragging it up now in some pathetic attempt to demonise her, again.

Epic Fail.

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · Yesterday 07:36

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 07:26

Did you read the post I was responding to, it seems SK put out a post, from nowhere, supporting JKR's stand, he then suffered the same pile on she has had to endure, but he, craven coward that he is, changed his stand immediately.
It's not about No Debate, it's about the Utter Contempt she clearly has for him for giving in to the mob. I share her opinion of him, and many other things.
It happened years ago, it's being dragging it up now in some pathetic attempt to demonise her, again.

Epic Fail.

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You don't know what you are talking about.

Rowling tweeted a quote by Andrea Dworkin in a thread that read, "'Men often react to women's words — speaking and writing — as if they were acts of violence; sometimes men react to women's words with violence.' It isn't hateful for women speak about their own experiences, nor do they deserve shaming for doing so."

That in no way is about trans women being women but about women's right to speak freely. So no, he never changed his stand or gave into the mob.

And its laughably ironic given the Dworkin comment she posted that JKR blocks someone for their opinion.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 07:39

GrumpyPanda · Yesterday 00:58

But with a gazillion mosquitoes, the Sibirian summer is infamous for them.

According to my brother so is Scotland, they're called midges up there, that's the Gaelic translation of the Russian word mosquitoes. 😂

My brother could be wrong.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 07:44

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · Yesterday 07:36

You don't know what you are talking about.

Rowling tweeted a quote by Andrea Dworkin in a thread that read, "'Men often react to women's words — speaking and writing — as if they were acts of violence; sometimes men react to women's words with violence.' It isn't hateful for women speak about their own experiences, nor do they deserve shaming for doing so."

That in no way is about trans women being women but about women's right to speak freely. So no, he never changed his stand or gave into the mob.

And its laughably ironic given the Dworkin comment she posted that JKR blocks someone for their opinion.

Currently, I'm inclined to believe the poster I responded to's version, not yours, theirs was 'lived experience' after all, yours is repeating social media white noise.

He caved to the mob, he got the response he deserved.

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · Yesterday 07:48

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 07:44

Currently, I'm inclined to believe the poster I responded to's version, not yours, theirs was 'lived experience' after all, yours is repeating social media white noise.

He caved to the mob, he got the response he deserved.

Lol.

https://news.sky.com/story/jk-rowling-deletes-praise-for-stephen-king-after-he-voices-support-for-trans-women-12017534

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 07:51

JK Rowling is practically a billionaire, she doesn’t need all the rent free accommodation people keep providing her in their heads.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 07:55

Thanks for the link; the article supports the version of events given by the poster I responded to. Not yours.

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · Yesterday 07:59

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 07:55

Thanks for the link; the article supports the version of events given by the poster I responded to. Not yours.

Really? Please quote the bit where JKR quotes 'trans women aren't women' that King retweeted. Oh wait, you can't can you because the quote was nev er about that.

Please stop embarrassing yourself.

BackToLurk · Yesterday 08:02

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · Yesterday 07:59

Really? Please quote the bit where JKR quotes 'trans women aren't women' that King retweeted. Oh wait, you can't can you because the quote was nev er about that.

Please stop embarrassing yourself.

I’d spend less time trying to think up new usernames and more time learning to read if I were you.

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · Yesterday 08:06

BackToLurk · Yesterday 08:02

I’d spend less time trying to think up new usernames and more time learning to read if I were you.

I'd spend less time diverting from facts & more time showing the actual quote you claim exists if I were you.

BackToLurk · Yesterday 08:16

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · Yesterday 08:06

I'd spend less time diverting from facts & more time showing the actual quote you claim exists if I were you.

You start by demonstrating which poster in this quote thread said “JKR quotes 'trans women aren't women' [and] King retweeted.”

Dadalus · Yesterday 08:19

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Myalternate · Yesterday 08:22

Dadalus · Yesterday 08:19

I don't want to alarm anyone, but in other breaking news, Abraham Lincoln has been shot while watching a play in Washington DC.

Love that

😂

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · Yesterday 08:22

BackToLurk · Yesterday 08:16

You start by demonstrating which poster in this quote thread said “JKR quotes 'trans women aren't women' [and] King retweeted.”

For gods sake did you even read the thread?. This poster claimed King 'caved to the mob' by initially retweeting the quote JKR posted & then agreeing trans women were women as if the initial quote had anything to do with trans women being women when it didn't;

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Today 07:26
Did you read the post I was responding to, it seems SK put out a post, from nowhere, supporting JKR's stand, he then suffered the same pile on she has had to endure, but he, craven coward that he is, changed his stand immediately.
It's not about No Debate, it's about the Utter Contempt she clearly has for him for giving in to the mob. I share her opinion of him, and many other things.
It happened years ago, it's being dragging it up now in some pathetic attempt to demonise her, again.
Epic Fail.

BackToLurk · Yesterday 08:28

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · Yesterday 08:22

For gods sake did you even read the thread?. This poster claimed King 'caved to the mob' by initially retweeting the quote JKR posted & then agreeing trans women were women as if the initial quote had anything to do with trans women being women when it didn't;

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Today 07:26
Did you read the post I was responding to, it seems SK put out a post, from nowhere, supporting JKR's stand, he then suffered the same pile on she has had to endure, but he, craven coward that he is, changed his stand immediately.
It's not about No Debate, it's about the Utter Contempt she clearly has for him for giving in to the mob. I share her opinion of him, and many other things.
It happened years ago, it's being dragging it up now in some pathetic attempt to demonise her, again.
Epic Fail.

So that’ll be a “I will not be finding the post that said SK retweeted JKR saying ‘transwomen aren’t women’ because that only happened in my head”.

Thank you for the clarification. Any more six year old ‘news’ you’d like to comment on? Biden’s election? Vera Lynn dying?