Ssssssssssh! Don't tell anyone but some are complying ...

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Council u-turns on decision to allow trans women access to female only post-prison service
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/council-u-turns-on-decision-to-allow-trans-women-access-to-female-only-post-prison-service-8883408

Major banks and insurers bar trans staff from Single-Sex spaces to comply with ruling
https://www.scottishfinancialnews.com/articles/major-banks-and-insurers-bar-trans-staff-from-single-sex-spaces-to-comply-with-ruling

Strange that both reports are from Scotland!

If you're on twitter, you might want to ask Baroness Nicholson if she's had a response to this letter to the Chairman of M&S, and mention your experience to her in case she hasn't (using a nitter link here, just in case you're not on twitter)
nitter.net/Baroness_Nichol/status/2061535670028415156

Seems like there's some movement in parts of the private sector. Not much in the public sector (funded by taxpayers, half of whom are women).

https://www.thetimes.com/business/companies-markets/article/coop-chair-steps-down-after-cyberattack-toxic-culture-turmoil-ln0zfsmhw

Here is an older linked article about the toxic executive culture.

https://archive.ph/YovDb

This rapist used M & S toilets to rape a women. Presumably mixed sex? He was originally charged with raping 2 teenage girls. The details are behind a paywall so there's limited info but
of course he was in possession of numerous upskirting & obscene images as well.

www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/26446724.abingdon-man-raped-woman-toilets-marks-spencer/

Archive for the above

https://archive.ph/6BgiT

It seems the M&S rape took place in the disabled toilet. The Pablo Lounge loo may have been mixed sex. The headline undersells what he did, both victims were young but one was a child. I'm surprised there isn't a picture of him.

Thank you!

Thank you. The reporting was very opaque - especially as it was teenagers / a child involved.

Hopefully pictures will load of the M and S Try It On area in the menswear area,redirecting presumably male customers to the Try It On changing rooms in the women's wear area . Men Women and children all in the same changing rooms. It was being used by men women and children when I was there . 30th July 2026. I've attempted to send to Baroness Nicholson on X but as I've never done that before I don't know if she'll receive it .

Another go at adding images , note the notice in the doorway directing men to the womenswear section

A better photo of the sign

It hasn't loaded unfortunately

Third time lucky

Have M&S signage always been so fucking patronising?

Marks and Spencer are still holding onto to the trans.

Yeah, this isn't some slip-up or error. This is clearly deliberate, isn't it?

I seem to remember some bright spark in an article announcing that using disabled facilities was 'stigmatising' (being disabled obviously being such a shameful thing and all 🙄).

They hadn't thought that one through, but it was only yet another thing grabbed for on the spot to try and make everyone agree the only important users of a women's space was obviously the men. And no alternatives that actually considered the needs of women could be possible.

But yes. Rubbish that the one accessible facility that disabled people fought for to be able to use society is being commandeered for a more powerful group as the quick and easy option.

Can't help thinking - isn't it interesting how when it's a conflict between women and men's needs, and disabled and men's needs, (using needs here in a fairly loose sense because it's arguable, but even in the case of equal needs existing), it's always, always the men who are prioritised. Everyone else can be freely subordinated and disadvantaged, but not men.

Wonder why that is?

And why all this 'rahhhh we're inclusive and kind' never notices or cares about the parties being actually oppressed and disadvantaged?

Im struck by the idea that this is not an ad-hoc sign. The male changing must be regularly closed to warrant preparing this in quite a large/elaborate stand?

The changing room is being refurbished. As part of the project planning several months or a years or two ahead of site works, it was identified that signage would be needed during the closure period. This sign was prepared in advance.

Alternatively if it's not being refurbished then it's regularly closed due to staff rostering, and a prepared sign is available for those periods.

yes, I have been so confused reading this thread!

In that case just close the men's and advise them to try on at home. No need to make the remaining one unisex.

It was the same again today. I went in to check up. No one stopped me taking photos in the mixed sex changing room. Can't seem to add the photos , if I manage note the men in the background . It's not fair on anyone
edit to say , there's tons of staff male and female buzzing about in that changing area and absolutely no building work going on.

Parlour uk have protected the female category as born female only for all groups age 16 and above

https://x.com/SportSEENuk/status/2089605334230872211?s=20

I noticed some improvement at the Edinburgh Festival this month. Last time I went there were signs up encouraging men to use the Ladies, if they "identify as or are presenting as" a woman (so very deliberately including occasional cross-dressers). This time there was a "woman in dress", a "man in trousers" and an "all genders" sign.

2 pieces of good news 😁 I would prefer that ParkourUK was for all groups including under 16's but the Edinburgh Festival is a biggy, their usually 'trans' central, although a "woman in dress" could be a bit vague, men in dresses will say it covers them as well.

Okay maybe 2 possible pieces of good news.

Same. I was at a show and there were 3 separate loo buildings - women, men, and gender neutral - (slow) progress is being made.