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[IwantToRetire]

Council u-turns on decision to allow trans women access to female only post-prison service
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/council-u-turns-on-decision-to-allow-trans-women-access-to-female-only-post-prison-service-8883408

Major banks and insurers bar trans staff from Single-Sex spaces to comply with ruling
https://www.scottishfinancialnews.com/articles/major-banks-and-insurers-bar-trans-staff-from-single-sex-spaces-to-comply-with-ruling

Strange that both reports are from Scotland!

Well, its arguable.

Pride was a protest. The legal battles have been won. The ones remaining are pretty much homophobia/social attitudes.

It's arguable whether Pride addresses or helps with this. Corporate pinkwashing and 'spicy straights' and hen parties and drag queens seem pretty pointless but they may help reach some people? I don't know.

Management of H&S at Worm Regs 1999.

Pivotal.

Yes, I was very confused!

I think I know why this might be. Some worms are used for toxicity testing (and Artemia, brine shrimps, in aqueous systems). I suppose you need to know what kind of substance actually causes problems to worms in the first place and something like asbestos, that needs to be breathed in, doesn't.

I agree with this too, I like the old rainbow flag. It's the hijacking of gay rights, Pride parades, and the so called "progress" flag I have a problem with.

@TheywontletmehavethenameIwant I think you make a good point about how stretched out over a month Pride has become.

I think that stonewall has destroyed the rainbow flags and pride by taking things to far.
It was 1 thing when its was 1 day for lgb people to celebrate their differences whilst showing that really under it all we were just the same as each other.
Then it became pride month, yet they couldn't even keep all the parades in that month and it morphed from acceptance of differences into an all out open display of male fetishes and trans demands.
Then we started seeing rainbow lanyards which never came with lgb acceptance instead it was a sign of gender ideology and the destruction of lgb and women's rights.
Then it ramped up more and it wasn't just 1 month but every dam month that had 1 or more days where companies and employers were banging on about gender ideology and year round flags and pins and worst of all police cars with decals on them, and permanent zebra crossings painted in rainbow colours.
Its all tainted with trans now and I don't think that ditching the progress wedge will help remove that taint, nor can pride recover from the types of men who were allowed to take it over whether on the streets in the parades or running the groups. Too many of those in charge have been proven to be sexual predators.
I'm sorry to say this but the lgb need to completely ditch all of the rainbow washing and pride by ditching the rainbow along with the TQ+ and all their days, weeks and months.
If you ask the average person on the street what the rainbow means to them and they will tell you trans especially those who have been through the school system (atleast those in Scotland) because everytime they had a teacher warering a rainbow lanyard they knew that they're about to get a lecture or dogma rammed down their throats.
Its sad and infuriating that things have been allowed to get so bad that even the original pride rainbow is now seen as just more TRA apeasment

I thought the asbestos mechanism was a freak occurrence of a single fibre going end into an alveoli then causing irritation leading to cancer much later.

The specific cancer is called mesothelioma. Asbestosis is where you have inhaled lots of asbestos particles that scar the lungs due to the irritation.

Sorry!

I did do some searching during the diversion but couldn’t find any other announcements. Damning in itself! It’s almost too early to have a thread like this because if any other organisations are doing this, it’s by extreme stealth…

I think you should have put a warning on that post before it showed.

Are you okay, @Boiledbeetle ?

I did feel a little queasy and have to go lie down after reading it. My brave ground beetle cousins sacrificing themselves for the noble pursuit of science.

Stupid sods.

The question is: who is grinding beetles in the forrests?

But seriously, I have some experience with structural biology (very much at the margins of it, never got to go to an actual accelerator [yet]) and to prepare that kind of sample and be able to get useful data from it is a fantastic piece of science and labwork.

Interesting!

No one is going to know that it’s a useful and important thread from the flippant title, as you yourself are fond of scolding people, aren’t you? You can’t control how threads evolve when you aren’t on them. And sometimes people like to have a laugh, especially when there has been trolling. Lighten up.

@IwantToRetire i think you should start a new thread indicating you would like to see additional notable shifts in policy in the right direction added.

@IwantToRetire I'll be a contrary voice and say let's keep the thread going? There will be other orgs. who decide, on balance, that it's better to follow the law than to get into a lawsuit, and it would be nice to have that list to counter my Doom and Gloom list of those who think they are above the law.

It's not completely derailed. Let's keep going? Just a thought.

Yes, I also don’t see why it can’t just be got back on track.

Agreed, although whether anyone finds any more to add is another matter. Companies switching back to the right way are all going to be trying to do it under the radar, so as to avoid looking like they have egg on their face.

Which they do, all of them. We see you 👀

I love you!

Ahem...

Sorry about, feeling better now. Just find it amazing how much knowledge can be found here. Makes.me.so.happy.😍

It’s fascinating. If i ever have to set a quiz question I know what I’ll be doing!

Sorry about the worm and asbestos thing, my fault. But easy to get back on track.

I'm finding the worm / beetle information fascinating.

I think that this is good news, because other companies and organisations will see and realise that they cannot hold out, despite what numerous MPs are wailing about. It happened last year, I'm thinking particularly of Virgin Active, which issued a hand-wringing, angst ridden apology to the TIMs, but still enacted legal, single sex spaces.

Slugs and land snails do have simple lungs, aquatic snails, such as whelks and winkles have gills.

Ikea had a new sign on their accessible toilet today saying ‘gender neutral toilet.’ It looks like they might have actioned the EHRC guidance.

The co-op

https://www.thetimes.com/article/6772d1ec-d619-4e4f-b952-395e268f63bb?shareToken=0fcb8e8fb0468939790b9a1d6a95a6eb

Thanks for the share token.

It's astonishing, isn't it, that suddenly companies are finding it so easy to obey the law! Absolutely astonishing, given how hand-wringingly difficult it was before...

Almost as easy as it was to start disobeying the law in the first place. And there was no guidance for that!

Bloody astonishing.