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Today I discovered that Hinge can delete your account if as a straight male you complain about males appearing in your dating queue…

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/08/2026 01:05

I only discovered this after having made two reports, and it’s Sunday, so I suppose I’ll find out tomorrow if they are going to follow through.

  • [This paragraph has been removed at the OP's request]

I'm sure someone will be along in a minute and ask why it has to be a thing in a relationship at all but given the case I’m following through it sort of has to be out there!

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Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:41

MyAmpleSheep · 11/08/2026 15:39

I think middle aged straight guys are the majority of paying customers, but the site needs to appear to appeal to younger cooler people.

Middle aged straight men are also massive consumers of transgender porn. For every man like OP, there are 3 happy that they have access to trans women for sex at least. You can argue that they arent straight but point remains that they are consumers and outnumber men like the OP. So all in all, it is a better business decision for them to fully welcome and embrace trans people.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/08/2026 15:42

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:41

Middle aged straight men are also massive consumers of transgender porn. For every man like OP, there are 3 happy that they have access to trans women for sex at least. You can argue that they arent straight but point remains that they are consumers and outnumber men like the OP. So all in all, it is a better business decision for them to fully welcome and embrace trans people.

Yes. 75% of straight men would have sex with a trans woman (a man). That adds up.

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Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:42

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/08/2026 15:41

Enjoying the show. Took a screenshot in case.

Considering ive got at least 2 of your posts deleted for calling women names when they disagree with you, I wouldn't sit too high on that pony of yours.

MyAmpleSheep · 11/08/2026 15:42

MyAmpleSheep · 11/08/2026 15:38

I think many if not most of their paid users will leave if they feel the site is unweocoming to trans people due to the demographics of who uses apps

You engaged a sleight of hand to equivocate the ability to filter by trans status as “unwelcoming to trans people”.

They aren’t the same.

I’m going to repeat this because it’s another example of the theory that to be welcoming to trans people you must deliberately fail to recognize that they are trans. Again the logical successful outcome of trans people’s requirements not to be identified as trans erases trans people as a group and is the very “genocide” they decry.

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:43

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/08/2026 15:39

It's literally everything you have said, condensed, and simply and clearly shown where you are wrong.

I think it's a bit cowardly to throw around words like mansplaining and accusations of sexism, not to mention loneliness when I'm being perfectly polite. It's a cheap way of trying to avoid scrutiny of your ideas. Not to mention saying I am only attractive to trans women, which frankly I think might be a bit transphobic.

Still, you gotta be angry on the internet somewhere, guess it was my lucky day.

Date went really well BTW. xxx

If you were perfectly polite, you wouldn't have posts deleted for attacking women who disagree with you, would you?

MyAmpleSheep · 11/08/2026 15:46

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:41

Middle aged straight men are also massive consumers of transgender porn. For every man like OP, there are 3 happy that they have access to trans women for sex at least. You can argue that they arent straight but point remains that they are consumers and outnumber men like the OP. So all in all, it is a better business decision for them to fully welcome and embrace trans people.

Middle aged straight men are also massive consumers of transgender porn. For every man like OP, there are 3 happy that they have access to trans women for sex at least.

This seems very unlikely to me, but much aligned with the insane trans fantasy of you don’t like us because your husbands can’t keep their hands off us and our gorgeous bodies will be raped instantly we enter the men’s toilets.

I put you to the proof of it.

JustEatThePizza · 11/08/2026 15:46

Some of these "facts" are wild! Three times as many men prefer trans women to women!

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:46

MyAmpleSheep · 11/08/2026 15:42

I’m going to repeat this because it’s another example of the theory that to be welcoming to trans people you must deliberately fail to recognize that they are trans. Again the logical successful outcome of trans people’s requirements not to be identified as trans erases trans people as a group and is the very “genocide” they decry.

The point is that if the user base who are largely pro trans feel like it isnt welcoming to trans people by their own merits, they'll boycott the site.

BackToLurk · 11/08/2026 15:47

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:23

Because it's core userbase see trans people as their chosen gender and they want to cater to people who will actually use the app

Are you conflating sex with gender again?

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/08/2026 15:47

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:43

If you were perfectly polite, you wouldn't have posts deleted for attacking women who disagree with you, would you?

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I've never asked for any comment to be deleted. Ever. (except my own).

I'll leave others to judge your sexism and transphobia xxx

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Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:47

JustEatThePizza · 11/08/2026 15:46

Some of these "facts" are wild! Three times as many men prefer trans women to women!

Can yoh quite where I said prefer? I said many men would have sex with a trans woman. Why do you feel the need to make things up?

BackToLurk · 11/08/2026 15:48

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:46

The point is that if the user base who are largely pro trans feel like it isnt welcoming to trans people by their own merits, they'll boycott the site.

How is correctly noting the sex of users, including transpeople, unwelcoming?

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:49

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/08/2026 15:47

I've never asked for any comment to be deleted. Ever. (except my own).

I'll leave others to judge your sexism and transphobia xxx

Ive gotton 2 of your posts deleted for calling women names when they challenge you. You attack women and become abusive when a woman disagrees with you.

MyAmpleSheep · 11/08/2026 15:49

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:46

The point is that if the user base who are largely pro trans feel like it isnt welcoming to trans people by their own merits, they'll boycott the site.

Is it perhaps an example of liberal people deciding what trans people should and shouldn’t like?

I think you’re saying that the majority of customers would instinctively see a “I am/am not interested in meeting trans people” as inherently transphobic.

Do you think it is?

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:49

BackToLurk · 11/08/2026 15:48

How is correctly noting the sex of users, including transpeople, unwelcoming?

It doesnt matter if it is or isnt. If they feel like it is, they'll boycott the site.

JustEatThePizza · 11/08/2026 15:50

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:46

The point is that if the user base who are largely pro trans feel like it isnt welcoming to trans people by their own merits, they'll boycott the site.

This simply doesn't happen.

When Grindr attempted to remove some of it's filters, there were a lot of complaints, it lost business.

Women are not going to stop using a dating app if trans women can be filtered out. Dating is a competitive market. A lot of the popular filters are hidden behind paywalls.

MyAmpleSheep · 11/08/2026 15:50

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:47

Can yoh quite where I said prefer? I said many men would have sex with a trans woman. Why do you feel the need to make things up?

You said:

For every man like OP, there are 3 happy that they have access to trans women for sex at least.

Maybe you can be clearer about what you mean?

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/08/2026 15:51

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:49

Ive gotton 2 of your posts deleted for calling women names when they challenge you. You attack women and become abusive when a woman disagrees with you.

As I said, I have never asked for a comment to be deleted

and I am not calling women names - your sex has nothing to do with it. So keen to avoid any real scrutiny of your crack pot ideas.

Already proven you're sexist and transphobic

Today I discovered that Hinge can delete your account if as a straight male you complain about males appearing in your dating queue…
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MyAmpleSheep · 11/08/2026 15:52

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:49

It doesnt matter if it is or isnt. If they feel like it is, they'll boycott the site.

Do you think it is inherently transphobic to have a “I do/do’t want to meet trans people” option?

I want to know your opinion.

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:52

JustEatThePizza · 11/08/2026 15:50

This simply doesn't happen.

When Grindr attempted to remove some of it's filters, there were a lot of complaints, it lost business.

Women are not going to stop using a dating app if trans women can be filtered out. Dating is a competitive market. A lot of the popular filters are hidden behind paywalls.

I think youre mistaken and a lot will. Women are some of the most vocal supporters of trans women.

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:53

MyAmpleSheep · 11/08/2026 15:52

Do you think it is inherently transphobic to have a “I do/do’t want to meet trans people” option?

I want to know your opinion.

No I don't. I think it's a preference. I don't think our preferences always need to be openly shared. Id never date some types of men. I'd never say what type of men I mean though as it is hurtful and unnecessary.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/08/2026 15:54

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/08/2026 12:28

Fancied doing an analysis of Lexibletheflexible’s argument

Her position appears to be:

  1. A heterosexual man who wants to date females is not really expressing a sexual orientation issue, but a preference against trans-identifying males.
  2. Hinge is entitled to define “woman” according to self-declared gender, rather than biological sex.
  3. Seeing somebody in a dating queue does not oblige anyone to date them, so there is no real harm.
  4. If people want a biological-sex filter, they should either ask individually or use another dating app.
  5. If Hinge does not provide such a filter, that is because either the market does not demand it or because the company has rationally decided it is not commercially worthwhile.

The problem is that almost every stage of that argument contains assumptions that do not stand up to scrutiny.

## 1. She confuses the sexual orientation of the person looking for a partner with the characteristics of the people they are looking for

The argument that “this is not about heterosexuality because you are not excluding bisexual women” is a category error.

A heterosexual man is attracted to females. The sexual orientation of the women he might date is not what defines his heterosexuality.

A heterosexual man can quite reasonably be attracted to women who are lesbian, bisexual, straight, or anything else, while still not being attracted to males.

The relevant distinction is not:

“Do you only want to date people who are heterosexual?”

The relevant distinction is:

“Are you seeking a partner of the opposite sex?”

Those are entirely different questions.

A gay man is not confused about his sexuality because he does not want to date bisexual men. A lesbian is not confused about her sexuality because she does not want to date bisexual women. Sexual orientation describes the sex of the people someone is attracted to, not the sexual orientation of those people.

## 2. She accepts the underlying issue but then argues it is not important

One of the most striking contradictions is that she repeatedly acknowledges that a biological-sex filter would solve the problem.

She even says she would install one herself if she created a dating app because it would be useful for compatibility.

That is a significant admission.

If biological sex is irrelevant, why would such a filter be useful?

The answer is obvious: because sex matters in dating.

People do not choose partners using abstract categories. They choose partners based on a complex mixture of physical attraction, personality, values, fertility, family plans, sexual compatibility, shared experiences and many other factors.

For many people, the sex of a potential partner is not a minor preference. It is foundational.

A dating app is not a social network. It exists specifically to help people find compatible romantic and sexual partners. Compatibility filters are therefore not arbitrary discrimination. They are the entire purpose of the product.

## 3. She misunderstands why discovery matters in dating

The argument that “you can simply swipe left” misses the point.

Nobody is suggesting that seeing an unsuitable profile forces anyone to date that person.

The issue is that dating apps are designed around efficient matching.

A person looking for a female partner does not want an algorithm deliberately presenting them with people who cannot meet that fundamental requirement. That is precisely why dating apps have filters.

The same logic applies to every other dating preference.

If someone wants a partner within a certain age range, religion, location, smoking status, desire for children or lifestyle, we do not say:

“Just look through thousands of unsuitable profiles and reject them manually.”

We provide filters because the entire purpose of the service is to reduce irrelevant matches.

The question is not whether someone can reject a match. The question is whether the platform is doing what it claims to do: helping people find compatible partners.

## 4. She misunderstands how businesses actually behave

A recurring assumption is that if Hinge does not provide a sex filter, this must mean either:

a) customers do not want one, or

b) Hinge has rationally decided that providing one is not profitable.

That is an extremely simplistic view of economics.

Businesses are not perfectly rational actors with perfect information. They are run by people, cultures, executives, marketing departments and corporate values. They make decisions based on assumptions, incentives, public relations concerns and internal beliefs.

Companies frequently make decisions that do not maximise profit.

Examples are everywhere:

  • companies abandon profitable products because executives dislike the direction;
  • companies enter markets they later discover are mistakes;
  • companies adopt policies that alienate some customers while appealing to others;
  • companies follow cultural trends before they have evidence of whether those trends are commercially beneficial.

The idea that “if customers wanted it, businesses would provide it” is not how markets work.

Markets are not perfect information systems where every possible product exists and consumers simply choose.

Products are created, restricted and shaped by the choices of companies.

A person cannot “just move to another app” if every major app adopts the same model. That is a form of market limitation, not a free choice between perfectly competitive alternatives.

## 5. She misunderstands captive markets and switching costs

The suggestion that people unhappy with Hinge should simply use another service ignores the reality of modern digital platforms.

People are often effectively locked into ecosystems.

A dating app’s value comes from:

  • the number of users;
  • the local user base;
  • reputation;
  • network effects;
  • the quality of its algorithm.

A dating app with a tiny number of users is not a meaningful alternative, even if it technically exists.

This is the same reason people cannot simply leave every dominant platform whenever they disagree with a policy.

A theoretical alternative is not the same as a practical alternative.

## 6. She assumes users and companies behave rationally, but human behaviour is not rational

A large part of the argument rests on the assumption that people make logical market choices.

They do not.

People are influenced by:

  • social pressure;
  • fear of criticism;
  • conformity;
  • branding;
  • ideology;
  • reputation;
  • convenience;
  • lack of alternatives.

Companies are influenced by exactly the same things.

A business decision is not automatically evidence that the decision reflects consumer demand.

Sometimes it reflects the values of leadership, the concerns of employees, perceived reputational risk, or simply the prevailing culture within an organisation.

The fact that Hinge has chosen a particular model does not prove that model is what users want.

## 7. She treats “women” as a category that can be defined differently depending on context, but ignores the consequences

Her argument relies on Hinge being allowed to define “woman” in its own way.

That may make sense internally for a software category, but dating is not merely a data-management problem.

Words in dating have real-world meanings.

When someone says they are looking for a woman, many people understand that to mean an adult human female.

Others understand it to mean anyone who identifies as a woman.

Those are competing interpretations.

The problem is not that one side refuses to understand the other. The problem is that the app has chosen one interpretation while many users reasonably expect another.

A platform that mediates intimate relationships has to recognise that these distinctions matter.

## 8. The market argument proves too much

If Hinge’s choices simply reflect consumer demand, then the same argument could justify any existing market structure.

But history shows markets often fail to provide what minorities or unpopular groups need.

Many improvements happened because consumers challenged existing systems rather than accepting them.

The argument:

“if people wanted this, someone would already provide it”

has repeatedly been wrong throughout history.

Businesses do not always identify unmet demand. Sometimes they create it. Sometimes they ignore it. Sometimes they actively resist it.

## Conclusion

The strongest part of Lexibletheflexible’s argument is that nobody should be forced to date anyone they do not want to date, and that a well-designed dating app should probably allow users to express meaningful compatibility preferences.

The weakness is that she then accepts the importance of biological sex while simultaneously arguing that people should not object when platforms fail to account for it.

She also assumes a perfectly rational market where businesses provide exactly what consumers want and consumers can freely move between competing alternatives. That is not how real economies work.

Dating is not a supermarket where every preference automatically produces a product. It is a deeply personal area involving attraction, intimacy, identity and compatibility. A platform that gets those assumptions wrong can create genuine problems for users, even if its intentions are considered positive.

The solution is not to force anybody to date somebody they do not want to date. The solution is to recognise that different people have different definitions of compatibility and that a dating service should provide transparent tools that allow adults to make those choices themselves.

waiting for you @Lexibletheflexible :D

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MyAmpleSheep · 11/08/2026 15:55

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:52

I think youre mistaken and a lot will. Women are some of the most vocal supporters of trans women.

I don’t think most women will inconvenience themselves feet much (by not using a dating app they otherwise would) because it has a “trans/not trans” filter alongside the age and height filters.

I think most trans-supporting women talk about good talk.

JustEatThePizza · 11/08/2026 15:57

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:52

I think youre mistaken and a lot will. Women are some of the most vocal supporters of trans women.

You seriously have no knowledge of the dating industry.

The No1 complaint is that sites/events etc are not exclusive enough. Whether it be about people lying about their age, gender etc.

And you contradict yourself, three times as many men want trans women, so why would women want trans women on a dating website if the trans women are more likely to be chosen over them?

MyAmpleSheep · 11/08/2026 15:59

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:53

No I don't. I think it's a preference. I don't think our preferences always need to be openly shared. Id never date some types of men. I'd never say what type of men I mean though as it is hurtful and unnecessary.

But you don’t openly share your preferences on a dating site if there’s a filter: that’s the whole point. You don’t need openly to say “I’m looking for men under 40” openly in your profile because by setting a private preference the men over 40 aren’t shown to you.

The inability privately to express the preference not to meet trans-identifying people forces you to express it openly.

If you really want to avoid hurting other people’s feelings, you’d approve of the trans filter.

If you don’t want a trans filter, then it’s just a public purity test that you’re approving.

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