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Today I discovered that Hinge can delete your account if as a straight male you complain about males appearing in your dating queue…

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/08/2026 01:05

I only discovered this after having made two reports, and it’s Sunday, so I suppose I’ll find out tomorrow if they are going to follow through.

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I'm sure someone will be along in a minute and ask why it has to be a thing in a relationship at all but given the case I’m following through it sort of has to be out there!

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HelenHywater · 11/08/2026 14:31

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 07:10

It would have to be trans men interested in dating women. If there are few on the site in the areas you look in, then you won't see many. My friend is on Feeld, lives in London, so sees a fair few in her matches.

I'm in London, although not on Feeld. I'm old though, and haven't seen any transmen my age (I'm assuming they're lesbians like all of the transmen I've ever met).

HelenHywater · 11/08/2026 14:32

JustEatThePizza · 11/08/2026 13:35

It's another case of when cold hard truth and reality hit trans people.

Due to the way in which dating apps have ended up working, men are better off swipe first, ask questions later. For trans women it gives them a false sense of acceptance of being seen as female. Reality hits when they realise that straight men aren't interested in them and that the internet lied to them over it.

Better off to believe in the illusion that because people use an app they support you and your cause.

I did actually see a profile the other day (a man) who said he wanted to date women and transwomen. I didn't swipe right on him.

HelenHywater · 11/08/2026 14:41

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 11/08/2026 08:25

Yikes

so they advertise themselves as men, post a profile pic of themselves dressed in a stereotypically feminine way and go looking for dates with women?

that’s so weird. You’ve got to wonder if it’s working for them

Yes. They mustn't think of themselves as women though because my search is set to men, so they must know they're men. Or perhaps they're men, who think they're women pretending to be men in order to catch some straight women?!

or they're just transvestites.

JustEatThePizza · 11/08/2026 14:42

HelenHywater · 11/08/2026 14:32

I did actually see a profile the other day (a man) who said he wanted to date women and transwomen. I didn't swipe right on him.

I'm sure that there are. Just like there are men who are happy to date both female-presenting women and male-presenting men. Although I doubt there's many men who would date both women and trans men though.

But the reality is for the vast majority of men their dating pool of women doesn't include trans women and this is coming as a surprise to trans women.

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:10

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/08/2026 12:08

Hinge doesn't. I do love pointing out holes in your knowledge. Fish in a barrel sort of thing.

Going out for this date in 20m, will be sure to ask her if she has a vagina like you told me I should.

Well yes you should because it is important to you.

"To message someone on Hinge, tap the heart or rose icon on a specific photo or prompt in their profile and type a comment before sending. If they like you back, you form a match and can continue chatting freely in your Matches tab."

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:13

JustEatThePizza · 11/08/2026 13:35

It's another case of when cold hard truth and reality hit trans people.

Due to the way in which dating apps have ended up working, men are better off swipe first, ask questions later. For trans women it gives them a false sense of acceptance of being seen as female. Reality hits when they realise that straight men aren't interested in them and that the internet lied to them over it.

Better off to believe in the illusion that because people use an app they support you and your cause.

I dont think men sre better off that way. They just really don't care who they match with so mass swiping any woman makes sense to them. They don't see us as individuals. Just as available to them or unavailable. That is why they get so angry when you suggest they might have to go through and read profiles.

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:15

JustEatThePizza · 11/08/2026 13:15

Don't deny their existence. Why are you trying to erase people who are unhappy with how these apps work?

Because there is no evidence of any lesbian who would use the app supporting it. Even anonymously on reddit or a SM site.

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:17

swimsong · 11/08/2026 12:53

It makes them more money from transwomen paying their subs.

There are so few trans women that if non-trans people wanted otherwise and were prepared to vote with their feet, they'd appease them to save their business. It isnt trans women keeping hinge and feeld etc in business.

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:18

Shedmistress · 11/08/2026 12:45

Maybe they didn't want their lives ruined by violent men raging and coming after them for daring to just want a female only app? Just a thought...

I dont buy that sorry.

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:19

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/08/2026 12:28

Fancied doing an analysis of Lexibletheflexible’s argument

Her position appears to be:

  1. A heterosexual man who wants to date females is not really expressing a sexual orientation issue, but a preference against trans-identifying males.
  2. Hinge is entitled to define “woman” according to self-declared gender, rather than biological sex.
  3. Seeing somebody in a dating queue does not oblige anyone to date them, so there is no real harm.
  4. If people want a biological-sex filter, they should either ask individually or use another dating app.
  5. If Hinge does not provide such a filter, that is because either the market does not demand it or because the company has rationally decided it is not commercially worthwhile.

The problem is that almost every stage of that argument contains assumptions that do not stand up to scrutiny.

## 1. She confuses the sexual orientation of the person looking for a partner with the characteristics of the people they are looking for

The argument that “this is not about heterosexuality because you are not excluding bisexual women” is a category error.

A heterosexual man is attracted to females. The sexual orientation of the women he might date is not what defines his heterosexuality.

A heterosexual man can quite reasonably be attracted to women who are lesbian, bisexual, straight, or anything else, while still not being attracted to males.

The relevant distinction is not:

“Do you only want to date people who are heterosexual?”

The relevant distinction is:

“Are you seeking a partner of the opposite sex?”

Those are entirely different questions.

A gay man is not confused about his sexuality because he does not want to date bisexual men. A lesbian is not confused about her sexuality because she does not want to date bisexual women. Sexual orientation describes the sex of the people someone is attracted to, not the sexual orientation of those people.

## 2. She accepts the underlying issue but then argues it is not important

One of the most striking contradictions is that she repeatedly acknowledges that a biological-sex filter would solve the problem.

She even says she would install one herself if she created a dating app because it would be useful for compatibility.

That is a significant admission.

If biological sex is irrelevant, why would such a filter be useful?

The answer is obvious: because sex matters in dating.

People do not choose partners using abstract categories. They choose partners based on a complex mixture of physical attraction, personality, values, fertility, family plans, sexual compatibility, shared experiences and many other factors.

For many people, the sex of a potential partner is not a minor preference. It is foundational.

A dating app is not a social network. It exists specifically to help people find compatible romantic and sexual partners. Compatibility filters are therefore not arbitrary discrimination. They are the entire purpose of the product.

## 3. She misunderstands why discovery matters in dating

The argument that “you can simply swipe left” misses the point.

Nobody is suggesting that seeing an unsuitable profile forces anyone to date that person.

The issue is that dating apps are designed around efficient matching.

A person looking for a female partner does not want an algorithm deliberately presenting them with people who cannot meet that fundamental requirement. That is precisely why dating apps have filters.

The same logic applies to every other dating preference.

If someone wants a partner within a certain age range, religion, location, smoking status, desire for children or lifestyle, we do not say:

“Just look through thousands of unsuitable profiles and reject them manually.”

We provide filters because the entire purpose of the service is to reduce irrelevant matches.

The question is not whether someone can reject a match. The question is whether the platform is doing what it claims to do: helping people find compatible partners.

## 4. She misunderstands how businesses actually behave

A recurring assumption is that if Hinge does not provide a sex filter, this must mean either:

a) customers do not want one, or

b) Hinge has rationally decided that providing one is not profitable.

That is an extremely simplistic view of economics.

Businesses are not perfectly rational actors with perfect information. They are run by people, cultures, executives, marketing departments and corporate values. They make decisions based on assumptions, incentives, public relations concerns and internal beliefs.

Companies frequently make decisions that do not maximise profit.

Examples are everywhere:

  • companies abandon profitable products because executives dislike the direction;
  • companies enter markets they later discover are mistakes;
  • companies adopt policies that alienate some customers while appealing to others;
  • companies follow cultural trends before they have evidence of whether those trends are commercially beneficial.

The idea that “if customers wanted it, businesses would provide it” is not how markets work.

Markets are not perfect information systems where every possible product exists and consumers simply choose.

Products are created, restricted and shaped by the choices of companies.

A person cannot “just move to another app” if every major app adopts the same model. That is a form of market limitation, not a free choice between perfectly competitive alternatives.

## 5. She misunderstands captive markets and switching costs

The suggestion that people unhappy with Hinge should simply use another service ignores the reality of modern digital platforms.

People are often effectively locked into ecosystems.

A dating app’s value comes from:

  • the number of users;
  • the local user base;
  • reputation;
  • network effects;
  • the quality of its algorithm.

A dating app with a tiny number of users is not a meaningful alternative, even if it technically exists.

This is the same reason people cannot simply leave every dominant platform whenever they disagree with a policy.

A theoretical alternative is not the same as a practical alternative.

## 6. She assumes users and companies behave rationally, but human behaviour is not rational

A large part of the argument rests on the assumption that people make logical market choices.

They do not.

People are influenced by:

  • social pressure;
  • fear of criticism;
  • conformity;
  • branding;
  • ideology;
  • reputation;
  • convenience;
  • lack of alternatives.

Companies are influenced by exactly the same things.

A business decision is not automatically evidence that the decision reflects consumer demand.

Sometimes it reflects the values of leadership, the concerns of employees, perceived reputational risk, or simply the prevailing culture within an organisation.

The fact that Hinge has chosen a particular model does not prove that model is what users want.

## 7. She treats “women” as a category that can be defined differently depending on context, but ignores the consequences

Her argument relies on Hinge being allowed to define “woman” in its own way.

That may make sense internally for a software category, but dating is not merely a data-management problem.

Words in dating have real-world meanings.

When someone says they are looking for a woman, many people understand that to mean an adult human female.

Others understand it to mean anyone who identifies as a woman.

Those are competing interpretations.

The problem is not that one side refuses to understand the other. The problem is that the app has chosen one interpretation while many users reasonably expect another.

A platform that mediates intimate relationships has to recognise that these distinctions matter.

## 8. The market argument proves too much

If Hinge’s choices simply reflect consumer demand, then the same argument could justify any existing market structure.

But history shows markets often fail to provide what minorities or unpopular groups need.

Many improvements happened because consumers challenged existing systems rather than accepting them.

The argument:

“if people wanted this, someone would already provide it”

has repeatedly been wrong throughout history.

Businesses do not always identify unmet demand. Sometimes they create it. Sometimes they ignore it. Sometimes they actively resist it.

## Conclusion

The strongest part of Lexibletheflexible’s argument is that nobody should be forced to date anyone they do not want to date, and that a well-designed dating app should probably allow users to express meaningful compatibility preferences.

The weakness is that she then accepts the importance of biological sex while simultaneously arguing that people should not object when platforms fail to account for it.

She also assumes a perfectly rational market where businesses provide exactly what consumers want and consumers can freely move between competing alternatives. That is not how real economies work.

Dating is not a supermarket where every preference automatically produces a product. It is a deeply personal area involving attraction, intimacy, identity and compatibility. A platform that gets those assumptions wrong can create genuine problems for users, even if its intentions are considered positive.

The solution is not to force anybody to date somebody they do not want to date. The solution is to recognise that different people have different definitions of compatibility and that a dating service should provide transparent tools that allow adults to make those choices themselves.

Errr. I know you're an expert mansplainer l, but this isn't what I've said.

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:23

MyAmpleSheep · 11/08/2026 12:04

Given that we agree it doesn’t make sense from a logical incentive point of view, why do you think Hinge doesnt let you filter by trans status?

Because it's core userbase see trans people as their chosen gender and they want to cater to people who will actually use the app

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/08/2026 15:30

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:19

Errr. I know you're an expert mansplainer l, but this isn't what I've said.

it's exactly what you have said, and a detailed list of reasons why you are wrong. HTH.

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JustEatThePizza · 11/08/2026 15:31

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:23

Because it's core userbase see trans people as their chosen gender and they want to cater to people who will actually use the app

There is no evidence to suggest this.

This is like the "silence equals violence" nonsense.

People using a dating app is not tacit endorsement that trans women are women.

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:34

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/08/2026 15:30

it's exactly what you have said, and a detailed list of reasons why you are wrong. HTH.

No.it isnt what I said, but I also know you think you know better than all women about everything, don't you?

Might be why you're so lonely on the apps, except for the trans women, of course.

Shedmistress · 11/08/2026 15:35

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:23

Because it's core userbase see trans people as their chosen gender and they want to cater to people who will actually use the app

Evidently they don't.

MyAmpleSheep · 11/08/2026 15:35

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:23

Because it's core userbase see trans people as their chosen gender and they want to cater to people who will actually use the app

If the feature the OP asked for was provided it would affect the user experience of this core user base not one iota. So in this case we must understand “cater to” as in appease, rather than cater to as in fulfill a need.

Meanwhile the OP’s need for this feature is not being catered to, despite the fact it would be a significant benefit for the way he uses the site.

Political theatre, to the detriment of a paying user. Not providing the feature is just virtue signalling.

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:35

JustEatThePizza · 11/08/2026 15:31

There is no evidence to suggest this.

This is like the "silence equals violence" nonsense.

People using a dating app is not tacit endorsement that trans women are women.

I think many if not most of their paid users will leave if they feel the site is unweocoming to trans people due to the demographics of who uses apps.

They don't care what some middle aged married straight woman thinks as she is not a consumer.

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:37

MyAmpleSheep · 11/08/2026 15:35

If the feature the OP asked for was provided it would affect the user experience of this core user base not one iota. So in this case we must understand “cater to” as in appease, rather than cater to as in fulfill a need.

Meanwhile the OP’s need for this feature is not being catered to, despite the fact it would be a significant benefit for the way he uses the site.

Political theatre, to the detriment of a paying user. Not providing the feature is just virtue signalling.

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He's one middle aged straight guy. They have millions of those. Probably some of their most problematic users, too. He adds no value to the site.

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:37

Shedmistress · 11/08/2026 15:35

Evidently they don't.

Well they do, that is why the apps have become more and more inclusive to who makes up their userbase

MyAmpleSheep · 11/08/2026 15:38

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:35

I think many if not most of their paid users will leave if they feel the site is unweocoming to trans people due to the demographics of who uses apps.

They don't care what some middle aged married straight woman thinks as she is not a consumer.

I think many if not most of their paid users will leave if they feel the site is unweocoming to trans people due to the demographics of who uses apps

You engaged a sleight of hand to equivocate the ability to filter by trans status as “unwelcoming to trans people”.

They aren’t the same.

JustEatThePizza · 11/08/2026 15:38

Didn't take long for the trans activist to become abusive.

MyAmpleSheep · 11/08/2026 15:39

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:37

He's one middle aged straight guy. They have millions of those. Probably some of their most problematic users, too. He adds no value to the site.

I think middle aged straight guys are the majority of paying customers, but the site needs to appear to appeal to younger cooler people.

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:39

HelenHywater · 11/08/2026 14:31

I'm in London, although not on Feeld. I'm old though, and haven't seen any transmen my age (I'm assuming they're lesbians like all of the transmen I've ever met).

Thrr eare lots of trans men online who only date men. Ive come across them since joining this site.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/08/2026 15:39

Lexibletheflexible · 11/08/2026 15:34

No.it isnt what I said, but I also know you think you know better than all women about everything, don't you?

Might be why you're so lonely on the apps, except for the trans women, of course.

It's literally everything you have said, condensed, and simply and clearly shown where you are wrong.

I think it's a bit cowardly to throw around words like mansplaining and accusations of sexism, not to mention loneliness when I'm being perfectly polite. It's a cheap way of trying to avoid scrutiny of your ideas. Not to mention saying I am only attractive to trans women, which frankly I think might be a bit transphobic.

Still, you gotta be angry on the internet somewhere, guess it was my lucky day.

Date went really well BTW. xxx

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/08/2026 15:41

JustEatThePizza · 11/08/2026 15:38

Didn't take long for the trans activist to become abusive.

Enjoying the show. Took a screenshot in case.

Today I discovered that Hinge can delete your account if as a straight male you complain about males appearing in your dating queue…
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