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Wings Over Scotland questioned under caution by police on account of Lynsay Watson

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 03/08/2026 21:47

No details yet. He says he will post about it at length tomorrow and it will be worth the wait. So this is just a placemarker for the moment.

Wings Over Scotland questioned under caution by police on account of Lynsay Watson
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SabrinaThwaite · 05/08/2026 09:23

SidewaysOtter · 05/08/2026 06:12

No, sorry. This is how we roll in these parts.

No rolling in coconut though.

SidewaysOtter · 05/08/2026 10:44

SabrinaThwaite · 05/08/2026 09:23

No rolling in coconut though.

God, no. Just think where all the bits would get <shudders>

BendoftheBeginning · 05/08/2026 11:45

NoWordForFluffy · 04/08/2026 20:11

That's bonkers really, isn't it? Who dreamt that daft idea up?

Ooh oh, I know the answer to this!

It wasn’t dreamt up at all, like many of these “legacy IT issues.” When police forces started investing in technology, every force (43 across England & Wales alone!) was independent and made its own decisions/purchases/operational implementations. It was only over time that the now obvious problems with linking up data nationally became an issue.

PrancingPanda · 05/08/2026 11:50

The article linked by @StickySundew is shocking. That poor guy!

Snowballs are horrible and clarty as are tunnocks mallows
Tunnocks better in dark choc

@Boiledbeetle - take the caramel gold thingies to the bluestocking. I'll collect them later.

Side note- tried Tim Tams recently: lovely (dark choc) melt-in-the-mouth gorgeousness

icingonmycupcake · 05/08/2026 12:14

The derailing in this thread is off the charts. Trying to skim through the comments to find the ones that are relevant to the actual topic is a pain in the arse. I thought MN was supposed to be clamping down on this.

ProtectedlyInsufferable · 05/08/2026 12:44

SidewaysOtter · 05/08/2026 08:12

Universities also have their own legal departments. Why did an accusation of academic plagiarism (not entirely unheard of) necessitate bringing in the celeb defamation law firm of choice?

Not in my experience. Cambridge maybe

FaithHopeCarnage · 05/08/2026 12:45

Just for fun and not saying I’ll send it (ok, almost definitely won’t) but after putting very minimal details into google it drafted the following. Seems AI has the measure of Watson! An interesting point is Disregard for High Court Precedent.

Draft Complaint Letter
To: Professional Standards Department, Avon and Somerset Police
Subject: Formal Complaint – Vexatious Investigation and Harassment of Stuart Campbell [1]
1. Incident Details

  • Target of Investigation: Stuart Campbell (Editor, Wings Over Scotland)
  • Dates of Police Actions: 3rd and 4th August 2026 (following late-night telephone contact in July 2026)
  • Location: Keynsham Police Centre
  • Complainant Underlying the Action: Lynsay Watson [1]
2. Nature of the Complaint This complaint concerns the disproportionate, heavy-handed, and potentially vexatious actions taken by Avon and Somerset Police against Stuart Campbell. It is argued that the force's actions amount to operational harassment and an unjustified interference with freedom of expression based on the following grounds: [1, 2, 3, 4]
  • Failure to Screen Vexatious Complaints: The police actions stem from reports made by Lynsay Watson, a individual with a well-documented history of filing multiple complaints across various police forces regarding gender-critical commentary. By continuously entertaining these reports, the force is enabling a campaign of personal harassment. [1, 2]
  • Disproportionate Police Conduct: Officers subjected Mr Campbell to aggressive policing tactics, including a 1:30 AM phone call demanding he immediately submit to arrest and transport to Keynsham Police Centre. Threatening arrest over non-violent, protected online speech constitutes an abuse of police powers and a waste of public resources. [1, 2]
  • Disregard for High Court Precedent: On 16 April 2025, the High Court of Justice ruled explicitly on a previous complaint by Lynsay Watson against Stuart Campbell (R (Watson) v Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police). Mrs Justice Hill ruled that Campbell’s social media expressions were "both lawful and correct" and protected under freedom of speech. To investigate identical matters under threat of arrest directly contradicts established High Court case law regarding the boundaries of free expression.[1, 2]
3. Desired Outcome
  • An immediate cessation of any further investigation into Mr Campbell regarding these specific social media posts.
  • A formal review by the Professional Standards Department into why a late-night arrest threat was deemed appropriate for protected speech.
  • A formal apology to Mr Campbell for the distress and disruption caused by these actions. [1]

Next Steps for Submission

  1. Copy the draft text above and adjust the sender details to your own if you are writing as an affected party or a concerned citizen.
  2. Submit the text directly online via the Avon and Somerset Police Complaints Portal.
  3. If the force rejects the complaint or fails to handle it properly, you can escalate the matter to the elected Police and Crime Commissioner, Clare Moody, via the Avon and Somerset PCC Appeals and Reviews Process to request an independent oversight review. [1, 2]

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Police question Wings Over Scotland blogger Stuart Campbell 'under threat of arrest'

WINGS Over Scotland blogger Stuart Campbell has said that he was questioned by police under threat of arrest over posts he made on social media ...

https://www.thenational.scot/news/26437133.police-question-wings-scotland-blogger-stuart-campbell/

ProtectedlyInsufferable · 05/08/2026 12:49

icingonmycupcake · 05/08/2026 12:14

The derailing in this thread is off the charts. Trying to skim through the comments to find the ones that are relevant to the actual topic is a pain in the arse. I thought MN was supposed to be clamping down on this.

It’s interesting that this is happening right in the middle of sudden public awareness of three separate examples of the weaponising by ‘progressives’ of the police. Is it called throwing a dead cat into the room?

icingonmycupcake · 05/08/2026 13:03

ProtectedlyInsufferable · 05/08/2026 12:49

It’s interesting that this is happening right in the middle of sudden public awareness of three separate examples of the weaponising by ‘progressives’ of the police. Is it called throwing a dead cat into the room?

It is interesting. But I can't afford to indulge in paranoia. That way lies madness (and I'm half way there already).

Differentforgirls · 05/08/2026 13:09

FaithHopeCarnage · 05/08/2026 12:45

Just for fun and not saying I’ll send it (ok, almost definitely won’t) but after putting very minimal details into google it drafted the following. Seems AI has the measure of Watson! An interesting point is Disregard for High Court Precedent.

Draft Complaint Letter
To: Professional Standards Department, Avon and Somerset Police
Subject: Formal Complaint – Vexatious Investigation and Harassment of Stuart Campbell [1]
1. Incident Details

  • Target of Investigation: Stuart Campbell (Editor, Wings Over Scotland)
  • Dates of Police Actions: 3rd and 4th August 2026 (following late-night telephone contact in July 2026)
  • Location: Keynsham Police Centre
  • Complainant Underlying the Action: Lynsay Watson [1]
2. Nature of the Complaint This complaint concerns the disproportionate, heavy-handed, and potentially vexatious actions taken by Avon and Somerset Police against Stuart Campbell. It is argued that the force's actions amount to operational harassment and an unjustified interference with freedom of expression based on the following grounds: [1, 2, 3, 4]
  • Failure to Screen Vexatious Complaints: The police actions stem from reports made by Lynsay Watson, a individual with a well-documented history of filing multiple complaints across various police forces regarding gender-critical commentary. By continuously entertaining these reports, the force is enabling a campaign of personal harassment. [1, 2]
  • Disproportionate Police Conduct: Officers subjected Mr Campbell to aggressive policing tactics, including a 1:30 AM phone call demanding he immediately submit to arrest and transport to Keynsham Police Centre. Threatening arrest over non-violent, protected online speech constitutes an abuse of police powers and a waste of public resources. [1, 2]
  • Disregard for High Court Precedent: On 16 April 2025, the High Court of Justice ruled explicitly on a previous complaint by Lynsay Watson against Stuart Campbell (R (Watson) v Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police). Mrs Justice Hill ruled that Campbell’s social media expressions were "both lawful and correct" and protected under freedom of speech. To investigate identical matters under threat of arrest directly contradicts established High Court case law regarding the boundaries of free expression.[1, 2]
3. Desired Outcome
  • An immediate cessation of any further investigation into Mr Campbell regarding these specific social media posts.
  • A formal review by the Professional Standards Department into why a late-night arrest threat was deemed appropriate for protected speech.
  • A formal apology to Mr Campbell for the distress and disruption caused by these actions. [1]

Next Steps for Submission

  1. Copy the draft text above and adjust the sender details to your own if you are writing as an affected party or a concerned citizen.
  2. Submit the text directly online via the Avon and Somerset Police Complaints Portal.
  3. If the force rejects the complaint or fails to handle it properly, you can escalate the matter to the elected Police and Crime Commissioner, Clare Moody, via the Avon and Somerset PCC Appeals and Reviews Process to request an independent oversight review. [1, 2]

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That picture could define “glaikit”.

BezMark · 05/08/2026 13:10

not to make a derail about a derail, well kind of...

The posters having discussions on the topic of biscuits and sweet treats all seem to be FWR regulars, who I don't think would be intentionally trying to bury any findings here. I have joined in the off-topic chat myself so I'm on thin ice myself!

There have been some examples recently of people on other threads who I would say have deliberately trying to get the thread off topic, and it is something we've seen a lot of historically. One common method is giving a super edgy hot take that generates a lot of pushback then replying to every individual reply ad infinitum, eating up dozens and dozens of posts. I've seen that one quite recently not a million threads from here.

KittyWilkinson · 05/08/2026 13:38

Interesting AI letter. Duly noted, thanks.

Wings is all lawyered up for those who don't seem to be aware of that. So we await Stuart's next steps. Quite a few lawyers on these threads also who help out generally, through quiet support and contributions. Some of us even talk about cake and biscuits, and blah on a bit in between Tribunals, Supreme Court Judgements, Judicial Reviews, and Police Raids.

( Although it does look a little odd to well meaning new people I've no doubt. Welcome, you'll get used to us!)

If Stuart Campbell wants extra back up then he'll shout up for sure, and let us know how he wants us to show that.

For what it's worth, I'm not really into sending letters on this occasion, unless the subject of the harassment gives the nod that it would be helpful. But that's just me. Do whatever you wish of course, if you think otherwise.

As a wider observation. I would like to see the IOPC getting involved in this systemic harassment. So far I've only seen attempts to involve captured Commissioners, although I might have missed something. And the Office's equivalents, of course, in NI and Scotland. I'm not too sure how they work. Although Police Scotland have a lot to answer to after they let Jim Taggart go

Also, as a Northerner, I must give a shout out for Dandelion and Burdock. And Chorley cakes.😎

SidewaysOtter · 05/08/2026 13:43

BezMark · 05/08/2026 13:10

not to make a derail about a derail, well kind of...

The posters having discussions on the topic of biscuits and sweet treats all seem to be FWR regulars, who I don't think would be intentionally trying to bury any findings here. I have joined in the off-topic chat myself so I'm on thin ice myself!

There have been some examples recently of people on other threads who I would say have deliberately trying to get the thread off topic, and it is something we've seen a lot of historically. One common method is giving a super edgy hot take that generates a lot of pushback then replying to every individual reply ad infinitum, eating up dozens and dozens of posts. I've seen that one quite recently not a million threads from here.

Quite. Those of us who are regulars here know that this is not a derail.

DontStopMe · 05/08/2026 13:54

Apologies to those put off by any of my Tunnocks-related posts. Personally, I find that extended 'I asked AI and it came up with this' posts are something I tend to skip, as AI can be as unreliable as that Cambridge academic's cv.

FaithHopeCarnage · 05/08/2026 14:02

KittyWilkinson · 05/08/2026 13:38

Interesting AI letter. Duly noted, thanks.

Wings is all lawyered up for those who don't seem to be aware of that. So we await Stuart's next steps. Quite a few lawyers on these threads also who help out generally, through quiet support and contributions. Some of us even talk about cake and biscuits, and blah on a bit in between Tribunals, Supreme Court Judgements, Judicial Reviews, and Police Raids.

( Although it does look a little odd to well meaning new people I've no doubt. Welcome, you'll get used to us!)

If Stuart Campbell wants extra back up then he'll shout up for sure, and let us know how he wants us to show that.

For what it's worth, I'm not really into sending letters on this occasion, unless the subject of the harassment gives the nod that it would be helpful. But that's just me. Do whatever you wish of course, if you think otherwise.

As a wider observation. I would like to see the IOPC getting involved in this systemic harassment. So far I've only seen attempts to involve captured Commissioners, although I might have missed something. And the Office's equivalents, of course, in NI and Scotland. I'm not too sure how they work. Although Police Scotland have a lot to answer to after they let Jim Taggart go

Also, as a Northerner, I must give a shout out for Dandelion and Burdock. And Chorley cakes.😎

I totally agree - it wasn’t a serious plan to send and my reasons for not sending were exactly as you outlined: Wings, and others directly in the firing line, will have Things Covered, and don’t need well-meaning idiots (such as myself) blundering in and possibly throwing spanners into works. I was more interested in how the letter was structured. I’m fairly new to AI and despite all the information being published (and not so naive as to think ALL the information has been published!) am still amazed at what it can put together.
And it distracts me from over-analysing my electricity usage. Or watching Jeremy Vine. I seriously need to get out more!

KittyWilkinson · 05/08/2026 14:11

@FaithHopeCarnage ha ha. I've had an overdose of Jeremy Vine too today! I'm on carer duties. Matt Alwright is doing the electricity bit! If you are new here welcome!
If your AI knows how to get my bill down let me know! 😀

ChequerToRed · 05/08/2026 14:21

A small point, if anyone is wondering ‘Why Keynsham?’, I did a quick check as, being familiar with Keynsham and wondering if it even had a police station that was anything more than a portacabin in a car park, yes it does. The custody suite is the only part manned 24/7. Why not Bath? Bath station is under refurb and won’t reopen till the 12/8. So I guess Bath are using it in the interim.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/08/2026 14:26

Differentforgirls · 05/08/2026 13:09

That picture could define “glaikit”.

Mate, have you seen any pics of Watson or the Aberdeen polycule?

Differentforgirls · 05/08/2026 14:27

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/08/2026 14:26

Mate, have you seen any pics of Watson or the Aberdeen polycule?

I’m not your mate.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/08/2026 14:29

Point still stands.

SirChenjins · 05/08/2026 15:08

SidewaysOtter · 05/08/2026 13:43

Quite. Those of us who are regulars here know that this is not a derail.

Definitely not a derail - we're just idly passing the time with a biscuit or 2 until the next instalment from the boys and girls in blue and the loons fae Aiberdeen.

WerewolfOfLoudon · 05/08/2026 15:57

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/08/2026 14:26

Mate, have you seen any pics of Watson or the Aberdeen polycule?

Stuff of nightmares shudder How do they always look worse as transwomen

Differentforgirls · 05/08/2026 16:38

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/08/2026 14:29

Point still stands.

What point?

SinnerBoy · 05/08/2026 18:26

WerewolfOfLoudon · Today 16:00

In the meantime, lovely reading with a coffee and a tunnocks

^https://wingsoverscotland.com/anatomy-of-a-grift/^

Oh dear! Oh double dear! Eau de Noodle will be having a chat with the Police, if there's any justice in the world.