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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Bluestocking Women's Pub, in which Gosie returns to the trail

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Magpiecomplex · 27/07/2026 20:46

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Magpiecomplex · 04/08/2026 21:42

MyrtleLion · 04/08/2026 21:37

You picked up the lines I thought were good, though I think council should be counsel.

And I remember we were imaginative, investigative and sometimes bored, but that's when the best stuff happened.

You're quite right, council should be counsel.

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AsWithGlad · 04/08/2026 22:29

JanesLittleGirl · 04/08/2026 20:47

I read this and immediately thought of the Saga of Noggin the Nog. Christ, that was boring.

I don't remember that. I do remember Nogbad the Bad. What a wonderful name, perhaps I can use it for myself somewhere.

Other characters (I've looked it up) include Noggin's mother, Grunhilda, Graculus, a big green bird, and Groliffe, a friendly ice dragon.

Inspiration for gerbils we have yet to meet?

MyrtleLion · 04/08/2026 22:49

Grunhilde arrived to support the gerbils when Maud went to see K&P, but I don't think she went home...

NotAtMyAge · 04/08/2026 22:50

Magpiecomplex · 04/08/2026 20:48

There was a woman named Not, daughter of Thord, who was neither large of stature nor swift of foot, but possessed a mind as sharp as cold iron. With her fared a sea-bird’s chick—a puffling, round and covered in soft down, which Not carried in the breast of her woolen kirtle and called Snorri.
They had been driven far west into the Hafgerðingar, the great ocean-swells where no land is seen, after a gale snapped their steering-oar. Their vessel was a longboat of twenty oars, ridden by serious women of the Vík who spoke little and worked much. At the forward bench sat Astrid the Deep-Minded, whose gaze could split timber, and behind her pulled nineteen oarswomen of the Fjord-Settle, their arms corded like hawser-rope and their faces salt-crusted.
Food was scarce, and water scarcer. On the fifth morning, the sun rose like a red shield over the gray waters. Astrid stood at the prow, her hand shading her brow.
"We row into the maw of Rán," said Astrid. "The wind is dead, and the stars offer no council by day."
Not stepped from the stern-board, her mantle tucked tight. From her kirtle poked the black head of the puffling, her beak bright as rowan-berries.
"The bird knows the way," Not said. "Snorri was taken from a burrow on the cliffs of Vestmanna. Her belly is light, and her heart craves the high turf."
The oarswomen paused, their blades dripping quiet silver into the trough. Helga, who sat at the waist, spat over the gunwale. "We are guided by a ball of fluff and a woman named after nothing?"
"Names do not row boats, Helga, but eyes see what ocean-gods hide," Not replied.
She lifted the puffling into the palm of her hand and held her above the gunwale. The bird stretched her tiny, downy wings, turned her head thrice against the salt breeze, and leaned resolutely toward the south-southeast, chirping a thin, dry note.
"There lies the herring-run," said Not. "Where the herring swim, the fowlers gather."
Astrid looked from the bird to the flat horizon, then turned to her crew. "Put your shoulders to the ash. We follow the chick."
For two days the women pulled without song, their breath rising together like the steam from hot springs. Not sat at the helm-possession, binding a spare spar to the tiller-head with wet rawhide. When the bird preened toward the port side, Not shifted the beam; when she slept against Not's ribs, the course was held true.
On the third evening, as the light turned violet, Snorri fluttered from Not’s lap to the gunwale, piping loudly. A thick mist rolled over the swell, smelling no longer of deep brine, but of wet basalt and rotting kelp.
Through the fog came the heavy, drum-like thud of surf breaking against stone. Astrid stood, her iron spear clinking against the ribs of the boat. The mist parted, revealing the black teeth of the southern firths and the smoke of turf-fires rising into the dusk.
The women pulled the boat high onto the shingle, their iron-shod boots crunching in the gravel. They had returned to the lands of men, brought through the trackless waste by a woman of quiet words and a bird no larger than a fist.

Oh, Magpie that's magnificent. I feel honoured to have played a role in your saga. 💜

AsWithGlad · 05/08/2026 00:31

MyrtleLion · 04/08/2026 22:49

Grunhilde arrived to support the gerbils when Maud went to see K&P, but I don't think she went home...

Ah, well-remembered. Thank you.

FuzzyPuffling · 05/08/2026 07:45

I want to know what Maud has been wearing in this hot weather.

EdithStourton · 05/08/2026 08:31

Loved Magpie's saga.

I have a thrilling day ahead. I must book the boiler service and then do some work.

EdithStourton · 05/08/2026 08:36

BTW, can I just recommend Boily's offering on page 15 at 00.13 on the Jason Arday, Cambridge Plagiarist thread.

Work of absolute genius.

Magpiecomplex · 05/08/2026 08:54

FuzzyPuffling · 05/08/2026 07:45

I want to know what Maud has been wearing in this hot weather.

Seconded. I'm sure she has been effortlessly stylish as always. Of course, in the summer her customary hats are practical as well as elegant.

@Boiledbeetle do you have any recent photos of Maud's summer outfits?

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DeanElderberry · 05/08/2026 09:17

Good morning.

We've had between 2 and 3 inches of rain and you can almost hear the sigh of relief from the plants and the birds and the soil fungi.

Three cyclamens have started and there are colchicum buds pushing up. The mixed annuals I scattered are starting to flower - much shorter than they should be, but it's good to see a colour other than tan.

I was at a meeting last evening - the current project is nearing launch day and I am vowing never to say 'yes' to anything ever again.

Our project publication includes an invitation for suggestions for the next phase. And I told my pals I'd accepted a request that we lead a visit by the town history society next summer.

I'm getting this 'no' thing wrong again, aren't I?

HAGADAPA

AngleofRepose · 05/08/2026 09:37

FuzzyPuffling · 05/08/2026 07:45

I want to know what Maud has been wearing in this hot weather.

Gingham and seersucker, I imagine? Pinnies and matching hats? Mary janes, not sandals?

Maud would look great in anything, though.

AngleofRepose · 05/08/2026 09:40

EdithStourton · 05/08/2026 08:31

Loved Magpie's saga.

I have a thrilling day ahead. I must book the boiler service and then do some work.

💚Commiserations, Edith. I am home waiting for a package. Could be a while. They were supposed to deliver yesterday.

Reminds me... I need to book a boiler service as well.

Much, much cooler this morning. Sunny. No rain. 😑

Magpiecomplex · 05/08/2026 09:42

AngleofRepose · 05/08/2026 09:37

Gingham and seersucker, I imagine? Pinnies and matching hats? Mary janes, not sandals?

Maud would look great in anything, though.

I think Maud could even manage to persuade linen to stay uncreased.

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AngleofRepose · 05/08/2026 09:45

Magpiecomplex · 05/08/2026 09:42

I think Maud could even manage to persuade linen to stay uncreased.

And that is quite a talent! One which I have never had. Somewhere I read once that wrinkled linen is fine for summer, even obligatory, but to me (on me) it just looks like I couldn't be bothered. So I don't wear a lot of linen. Because actually I can't be bothered.

Magpiecomplex · 05/08/2026 10:40

AngleofRepose · 05/08/2026 09:45

And that is quite a talent! One which I have never had. Somewhere I read once that wrinkled linen is fine for summer, even obligatory, but to me (on me) it just looks like I couldn't be bothered. So I don't wear a lot of linen. Because actually I can't be bothered.

I do wear linen, but also can't be bothered. Ironing is something I refuse to do on sustainability grounds. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

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Magpiecomplex · 05/08/2026 10:46

Lowering the tone, I would like to wish all the regulars, and the lurkers, and the regular lurkers, a very happy National Underwear Day. I trust we are all celebrating in whatever way we see fit.

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MarieDeGournay · 05/08/2026 11:20

Magpiecomplex · 05/08/2026 10:46

Lowering the tone, I would like to wish all the regulars, and the lurkers, and the regular lurkers, a very happy National Underwear Day. I trust we are all celebrating in whatever way we see fit.

Thank you Magpie, the day was shaping up as 'the day before the boiler service[snap, Edith!] and the day when the fridge might look empty enough to force a food shop day'
but now it's a cause for celebration - National Underwear Day, which I will celebrate by giving some underwear a grand day out, starting with a swim and then a spin and then hanging out in the sunshine for a bit... 😄

I love linen - when a distant relative left me a couple of hundred quid in their will, I spent it all, every penny, on linen clothes, which of course I still have because it wears so well.

Accepting that it's OK for linen to look creased is a challenge for me as I am an Arch-Ironer.

It 's OK if I'm in the kind of company who think
'Oh that must be real linen, it has that natural creased look - nice!'
but less so if it's
'That Marie is letting herself go a bit, isn't she? I remember a time when she wouldn't appear in anything that wasn't perfectly ironed...' 😒

Re council/counsel - that makes me feel better about AI, none of us would have made that mistake🙂

Magpiecomplex · 05/08/2026 11:35

That sounds like a fine celebration of National Underwear Day, Marie! I usually don't hang my underwear outside to dry, don't want to scare the wildlife (or find birds trying to nest in my bras 😆).

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EdithStourton · 05/08/2026 11:43

EmpressaurusKitty · 04/08/2026 19:45

Looked them up.

Jeg må finne skjæra og lundefuglen min (I have to find my magpie and puffin).

Harking back to one yesterday evening's posts (I was out, and have had to catch up):

What's that word when the name of something sounds like the noise it makes?
Magpies are noisy blighters and the Norwegians have clearly noticed.

Though I am sure that our Magpie only squawks when it's 100% justified. Such as, at recalcitrant students.

Magpiecomplex · 05/08/2026 12:02

EdithStourton · 05/08/2026 11:43

Harking back to one yesterday evening's posts (I was out, and have had to catch up):

What's that word when the name of something sounds like the noise it makes?
Magpies are noisy blighters and the Norwegians have clearly noticed.

Though I am sure that our Magpie only squawks when it's 100% justified. Such as, at recalcitrant students.

I have a beautiful singing voice Edith, as evidenced at a number of Bluey karaoke nights in the past!

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EmpressaurusKitty · 05/08/2026 12:36

EdithStourton · 05/08/2026 11:43

Harking back to one yesterday evening's posts (I was out, and have had to catch up):

What's that word when the name of something sounds like the noise it makes?
Magpies are noisy blighters and the Norwegians have clearly noticed.

Though I am sure that our Magpie only squawks when it's 100% justified. Such as, at recalcitrant students.

Onomatopoeia?

There were a bunch of magpies shouting on the opposite roof the other night.

EdithStourton · 05/08/2026 13:51

Magpiecomplex · 05/08/2026 12:02

I have a beautiful singing voice Edith, as evidenced at a number of Bluey karaoke nights in the past!

😂😂😂
Like every other magpie!

And yes, Empress, that's the word.

AngleofRepose · 05/08/2026 14:01

EdithStourton · 05/08/2026 11:43

Harking back to one yesterday evening's posts (I was out, and have had to catch up):

What's that word when the name of something sounds like the noise it makes?
Magpies are noisy blighters and the Norwegians have clearly noticed.

Though I am sure that our Magpie only squawks when it's 100% justified. Such as, at recalcitrant students.

"Jay" in Welsh is Screch y Coed (scream of the/in the wood). My fav Welsh bird name!

MyrtleLion · 05/08/2026 17:06

Would you like another episode?

Magpiecomplex · 05/08/2026 17:13

MyrtleLion · 05/08/2026 17:06

Would you like another episode?

Does a one legged duck swim in circles?!

By which I mean, yes please!

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