Trans Women are Real Women and Should Have Access to Women's Spaces

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Started because a thread on Girlguiding was getting too off topic.

Yes. I'm sure that Katie/Lennon would have survived a visit to the gents' toilets.

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/courts/4062580/dolatowski-deferred-sentence-polmont/

I am a woman.
I have no problem with people living their lives AS IF they are a woman...only don't tell me you ARE one when you are clearly not...that "offends" me that you think you are the same as me.
Be honest about it and I will accept you for who you are and how you live, but if you have male parts, including a prostate gland and an adam's apple , you are not a woman. The same goes for women who want to live as a man..if you have female parts , a uterus, ovaries,cervix and can become pregnant, you are not a man. Again, if that is how you choose to live your life, fine, but be honest about it.

£5 says we hit the post limit before the OP returns

Humans are not “assigned” a sex at birth. Our sex is determined at conception and recorded at birth in the vast majority of instances. Nowadays, a significant number of humans gave their sex determined well before birth. There is no “assigning” being done.
How exactly do you “assign yourself with femininity”? I’m female and don’t know what that even means.

Also, if you think stripping down what women are to their body parts, that's what feminists fought against for years. Now women can get jobs, start bank accounts, own property, and so many more things. This is a very regressive view of what women are

No they didn't. Feminists rightly argued that our ' body parts' do not mean we shouldn't be able to own property, have bank accounts or have jobs that we are able to do. They did not argue that our 'body parts' don't mean we are women.

I feel like I've been transported back to 2019. Booooooring

It's not an insult any more than "white" or "straight" is an insult .

🏆for the fastest filling thread OP!

It's almost like people really care about this stuff!

(however much we are told they don't)

Of course it’s an insult. The word ‘woman’ does not need a prefix.

"We don't need that logic"

what do you mean? That's the logic the pp was using to justify that policy.

To all intents and purposes a ruling on the Equality Act was all that was needed, as that’s the legislation that defines what is legal or not in relation to single-sex provision.

What do you mean a prefix? If I say "white woman" is that an insulting prefix?

Of course it's an insult - we are not a subset of our own sex.
And we do not subscribe to this ideology so we do not use their terminology

We’re not in the USA.

Guess what else women can now do, with the full backing of the Supreme Court? We can tell men who claim to be women that they cannot enter their single sex spaces, take part in women’s single sex sports, invade women’s rape refuges, be placed on a women’s ward in hospital or, most importantly, us women can tell men who claim to be women that they’re just men.

On the subject of CIS, why do trans women get to identify as their preferred gender identity, but when women want to identify as women, we are told we have to identify as something else?

I'm not a CIS woman. I am a woman. No prefix wanted or needed, thanks. I don't subscribe to gender bollocks and don't want to have it thrust upon me.

There are lots of subsets of women- white women, straight women, gay women, rich women, skinny women, British women.... etc.

The difference is that none of those women are actually men.

White is an adjective not a prefix. HTH

Is this a joke?
Do you really not understand the difference?

And none of them include unhappy men.

Tell me how a transwoman, no space, is a woman, please. You haven't so far.

Yes, but not male women.

Because he is?

One prize winging it's way to you for my favourite comment.

Women are not men. It's not complicated. Trans women are men.