What a delightful “young woman” comments on Widdecombe death

[Deanefan]

Directed to this by a friend from Aberdeen
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/16536795/heather-herbert-ann-widdecombe-death-comments/

Just a few days ago Tommy Stephen-Yaxely-Lennon Robinson called a brown man (who was born in Scotland 4th gen) of "an invader" and falsely accused him of "filming children". The man has since received death threats. This isn't a one off either he has a long track record of doing this.

Should Tommy Robinson be arrested and charged?

How do you think his victim and the victim's family feel about this?

The Free Speech Union have urged Heather Herbert to join and they'll represent him.

I think you're saying the rules should be applied evenly. I think we agree on that.

There's plenty of posters who aren't happy with that offer from the FSU.

The Russians hire online un(der)employed Ukrainians living in the UK to spray Islamophobic graffiti. Murder's a bit more of an ask though...

It's unlikely that the Trump assailants were fake. I have rifle shooting experience, let me explain.

For one, shooting at a moving target is extremely hard, explaining the misses.

For two, I was taught that there's no such thing as shooting to injure or shooting to miss or threatening to shoot. If you point a gun at someone, you do so solely to pull the trigger and kill them. The risk of accidentally hitting a moving target you are "shooting to miss" is very high, too high to take that risk with a Presidential candidate if you actually want them to survive to hold office. The risk of killing or maiming someone you are intend to give a minor injury to is even higher, so there's no way that the guy who clipped Trump's head did so on purpose.

(That scene in Crocodile Dundee 2 when Mick "grazes" Walter's head with a bullet and Walter recognises it as in intentional graze is, for shooters, the least convincing thing in cinema, even less convincing than Robert Carlyle's cringeworthy scouse accent in 51st State. Just generally, cinematic treatment of firearms leaves a lot to be desired.)

This is a real-life example of that 1984 thing where the Party gatekeep who is and isn't in the Inner Party to form a kind of aristocracy, not by inheritance or old boy's network, but by ideological screening. You've got a bullying clique who decide who is in and out of the clique based on ideology.

This ideological gatekeeping getting baked into the hierarchy of an organisation is what the term "lanyard class" means, isn't it?

I don't think that, by "quine", you meant a computer program that prints its own source code as its only output.

@LuckyHazelFox

What Dino said, and also:

see a white woman banged up when we've got Labour letting rapists out early

The men's prison estate is massively overcrowded, hence the early releases. The women's prison estate is not. It's not like Connolly was taking up a space that a rapist could have be held in. Unless, of course, you think that rapists should be held in women's prisons sooner than be released early...

https://x.com/jonnywsbell/status/2077886565393506554?s=46

I couldn’t find this on Nitter, but this was Heather Herbert having filmed this short clip on Aberdeen Uni’s campus - the MacRobert Memorial Garden. Well known to anyone who’s been an Aberdeen student and interesting content to be talking about the usefulness of throwing things over women to prevent them having a platform while in an identifiable part of his Uni campus.

I’ve never really heard him speak but does he have learning difficulties?

True. It is much more likely that PP meant “quines” as in girls/women - particularly juxtaposed with “loons” - “quines and loons” = “girls and boys” in Aberdeen Doric.

My goodness, how on earth is that even remotely comparable? Stop minimising what has happened.

Just to clarify my position on this: Tommy Robinson is an idiot apologised for his false accusation. He was completely in the wrong. Saying what Herbert said crosses a line and his cumulative behaviour has given police cause for concern. It should give anyone with any decency cause for concern.

xcancel version: xcancel.com/Jonnywsbell/status/2077886565393506554

"Posie" Parker. How pathetic. Toddlers in men's bodies is what they are.

Yes as in “fair mintin’ like Quine, furi boots ye fae?” in the delightful Doric!

@AlexandraLeaving, is that a nod to the fabulous Mr Cohen in your name?

They're mentally unwell and unstable men - it's patently obvious that there is a link between transgenderism and mental health that is being ignored in a misplaced desperation to be kind. These were the weird boys at school on the fringes that you kept away from and they now have a level of power they could only have dreamed of in their younger days - and of course SM platforms on which to link with the other mentally ill men in dresses.

Fantastic insight 👏

Spot on @ALovelyPinkUnicorn. I don't think he ever sung about lovely pink unicorns, but I'm sure he meant to.

As Lucy Connolly was mentioned upthread there's an article in Unherd that quotes her re. Herbert

https://archive.ph/JxAeY

https://unherd.com/newsroom/lucy-connolly-my-supporters-should-also-defend-heather-herbert/?edition=us

The headline really says it all.

@SirChenjins 🎯

And the obvious truth is that we don’t want a group with a considerable number of mentally unstable, resentful and misogynistic men in women’s spaces, because it’s not fair on women and girls to have to deal with them.

Nope don't agree with Lucy.

I doubt Herbert will take the FSU up on it. I think it would be fascinating if he did. The allies reaction would be interesting to see. I think they cast the FSU into the outer darkness a while ago. Would Herbert join them there?

Yes I doubt he will as well. I think quite a few TRAs won’t be happy with him for this incident as it makes them all look awful, and they’ll be even less happy if he teams up with the FSU to essentially reify freedom of speech, meaning that speech against them is protected too and they can’t just run to the police any time someone says something they don’t like. Some of them have suggested that’s not desirable for them.

I am enjoying how much the Scottish press are running with this. They’ve clearly found a lot of dubious comments made by Herbert but also lots of images the polycule really should have thought before posting