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adragoncalledaudrey · 16/07/2026 17:04

Is it just me feeling the bubbling rage with every word?

Anyway. I think the point at which folk have to state that they really are not arseholes is the point after which they may have already been arseholes.

SirChenjins · 16/07/2026 17:10

Raquelos · 16/07/2026 15:21

Any employer faced with this kind of behaviour and anticipating firing the employee as a result is well advised to go through due process. That includes investigating the allegations, giving the employee the evidence and inviting them to a disciplinary hearing and allowing them to explain their position, then considering mitigating factors (length of service, previous record, whether the post was deleted, remorse, etc.) before finally offering them a right of appeal.

This all takes a while, as you can imagine, but failing to follow a fair process like this can mean a dismissal is found to be unfair at a tribunal even if the underlying conduct was serious enough to warrant dismissal. The reality is that most successful tribunals brought by employees are successful because the company hasn't followed the correct process.

So I am happy for the university to take their time and get it right before firing this man for his obviously vile posts.

I'm aware of the process and the need to investigate fully - my concern is that the process hasn't started and possibly won't start. I really hope I'm wrong, given his arrest, but feet can drag when it suits.

adragoncalledaudrey · 16/07/2026 17:22

murasaki · 16/07/2026 16:14

Christ. He's very unwell, and given the incredibly high bar for being charged with sexual assault, I would posit that he's very dangerous too.

I would be intrigued to hear what the charge was for.

I would also be intrigued as to what a brain outage is and if one would absolve you of all crimes.

SidewaysOtter · 16/07/2026 17:58

Christ on a cracker, that video. He’s completely unhinged and - of course - there’s the usual accusation that this is all fascism/nazism.

But the bit at the beginning where he says they’re arrested for jokes just because they’re trans. Is he trying to explain all this away as “bantz”?!

murasaki · 16/07/2026 18:00

Probably, re bantz. And just to clarify re ill, I don't know if he's had a medical diagnosis, but he's clearly mentally unwell in some way.

SwirlyGates · 16/07/2026 18:04

murasaki · 16/07/2026 14:23

To be honest I don't think it merits a custodial sentence. A suspended one, limited online access and a community service duty of litter picking would be ok with me.

I don't think his comments, vile as they are, are a police matter at all, and come under free speech. Bringing his employer into disrepute is a separate thing, and he does seem to have contravened their social media policy.

I was thinking he must have been arrested for other posts, but one of the articles above is saying it's for his Ann Widdecombe post.

murasaki · 16/07/2026 18:10

I think that was the trigger post, then they looked further. But obviously for headlines and relevance the media will hang it on that one. It will be interesting to see it play out amd what the charge actually is.

SwirlyGates · 16/07/2026 18:14

oldtiredcyclist · 16/07/2026 14:38

I have another article about Dr John Baird, who was investigated by Aberdeen University for a year after claims that he was "transphobic".

https://afcomm.org.uk/2025/11/18/aberdeen-lecturer-cleared-transphobia-investigation/

Wow, what a witch hunt.

dapsnotplimsolls · 16/07/2026 19:08

SabrinaThwaite · 16/07/2026 16:09

Just when you think it couldn’t get any stranger, third polycule member ‘Poppybear’ seems to back on BlueHair with a very weird video rant, and appears to be equally in some bother.

nitter.net/theparty1sover/status/2077723566091415851?s=46

Stunning and brave.

Juneclaire · 16/07/2026 20:07

Complained of biased and inaccurate reporting to BBC News about coverage - Heather was described as "she". Pointless of course.

borntobequiet · 16/07/2026 20:21

The number of households paying the TV licence fee has dropped by about half a million - it was all over the news the other day. I’m sure there are many reasons why people decide it’s not worth it. My reason was Martine Croxall being disciplined for wrongface on the news, on top of all their other lies and misinformation about transgender issues. I’m sure there are many like me.

Raquelos · 16/07/2026 20:38

SirChenjins · 16/07/2026 17:10

I'm aware of the process and the need to investigate fully - my concern is that the process hasn't started and possibly won't start. I really hope I'm wrong, given his arrest, but feet can drag when it suits.

Yeah, I take your point, universities are notoriously captured, so I wouldn't be surprised if there is a distinct lack of enthusiasm to crack on with the process, as another poster pointed out, the time of year will be a factor as well. I hope, though, that given the high profile this man's disgusting comments have achieved, they won't be able to ignore it. We won't see any immediate action, though, annoyingly.

LuckyHazelFox · 16/07/2026 20:42

The uni has had an X post up for 4 days now regarding its stance on the matter. The comments make good reading.

SwirlyGates · 16/07/2026 20:47

LuckyHazelFox · 16/07/2026 20:42

The uni has had an X post up for 4 days now regarding its stance on the matter. The comments make good reading.

Do you have a link?

murasaki · 16/07/2026 21:24

It's Aberdeen not Edinburgh isn't it?

SirChenjins · 16/07/2026 21:26

Raquelos · 16/07/2026 20:38

Yeah, I take your point, universities are notoriously captured, so I wouldn't be surprised if there is a distinct lack of enthusiasm to crack on with the process, as another poster pointed out, the time of year will be a factor as well. I hope, though, that given the high profile this man's disgusting comments have achieved, they won't be able to ignore it. We won't see any immediate action, though, annoyingly.

I agree. I suspect they will find some excuse to sit on this until the police investigation is finished and then take it slowly from there if they absolutely have to. My money is him still being in post this time next year, but with a chunk of that time spent on paid leave 😡

LuckyHazelFox · 16/07/2026 21:28

murasaki · 16/07/2026 21:24

It's Aberdeen not Edinburgh isn't it?

Yes it's Aberdeen. I'm not sure i want to post a link @SwirlyGates you can see it at the top if their page.

SabrinaThwaite · 16/07/2026 21:40

It’s here:

nitter.net/aberdeenuni/status/2076257466866696359?s=46

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/07/2026 22:06

borntobequiet · 16/07/2026 20:21

The number of households paying the TV licence fee has dropped by about half a million - it was all over the news the other day. I’m sure there are many reasons why people decide it’s not worth it. My reason was Martine Croxall being disciplined for wrongface on the news, on top of all their other lies and misinformation about transgender issues. I’m sure there are many like me.

And Justin Webb, told clarifying that “trans women” were biologically male in a report was “biased”.

SidewaysOtter · 16/07/2026 22:30

murasaki · 16/07/2026 21:24

It's Aberdeen not Edinburgh isn't it?

Ah yes, sorry Blush

The comments underneath Aberdeen's top post are indeed...interesting.

LuckyHazelFox · 16/07/2026 22:33

SidewaysOtter · 16/07/2026 22:30

Ah yes, sorry Blush

The comments underneath Aberdeen's top post are indeed...interesting.

They are indeed. Makes you restore some faith in common sense prevailing.

murasaki · 16/07/2026 22:39

The comments are quite...something. and correct. If your finest achievement is associating with Dolatowski, that says a lot.

MintBird · 17/07/2026 00:08

lcakethereforeIam · 15/07/2026 21:04

Lucy Connolly rapidly deleted her tweet and expressed remorse. She also pled guilty. If she hadn't, I don't know what might have happened at a trial. She went to jail and lost her job despite not being 'brown' or, as far as I know, LGBT.

I'm not sure what your point is.

She deleted her tweet after enough time had passed for it to be seen by a very large number of people. Just imagine if someone who was already radicalised read her tweet and decided to carry out what she wanted? Inciting arson attacks to commit murder by burning people alive inside buildings because of their skin colour isn't a laughing matter and her tweet could have led to a tragedy happening. Her tweet including the motive was clear as crystal- she added "if that makes me racist so be it" onto the end.

Yes, radicalisation does lead to hate and hate leads to violence and people attempting murder, a quick example:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crmpejxlm7do

Just about everyone on the far-right including the usual lot- Tommy ten names Robinson, Elon Musk and Trump were all expressing outrage about British people "not having free speech" and "being arrested for a tweet". Now she's profiting from a monetised Twitter account earning money from Elon Musk by tweeting stuff that will receive engagement and is set to profit from a book too.

Heather posted a very nasty tweet about an already dead person. it's not a threat or incitement it's just a nasty tweet. And all the people on the far-right defending "are Lucy" are mass reporting her to the police and her employer.

I seem to be missing something but people "shouldn't be arrested for a tweet" right? Trump, Elon Musk, Nigel Farage, Tommy etc say that multiple times a week and how Britain is such a bad country whenever this happens and how we "don't have free speech"? So I presume all these people should be outraged Heather has now been arrested for a tweet, right?

Or if we're going to start arresting people who make mean tweets then the police are going to be busy arresting Tommy Robinson (who makes false malicious allegations against brown people on an almost weekly basis now) and Reform politicians and voters?

People really need to make their minds up what "free speech" should actually mean and the threshold for when people should be arrested for an online post. You can't have one rule for the far-right and another for minorities and LGBT people.

LuckyHazelFox · 17/07/2026 00:11

MintBird · 17/07/2026 00:08

She deleted her tweet after enough time had passed for it to be seen by a very large number of people. Just imagine if someone who was already radicalised read her tweet and decided to carry out what she wanted? Inciting arson attacks to commit murder by burning people alive inside buildings because of their skin colour isn't a laughing matter and her tweet could have led to a tragedy happening. Her tweet including the motive was clear as crystal- she added "if that makes me racist so be it" onto the end.

Yes, radicalisation does lead to hate and hate leads to violence and people attempting murder, a quick example:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crmpejxlm7do

Just about everyone on the far-right including the usual lot- Tommy ten names Robinson, Elon Musk and Trump were all expressing outrage about British people "not having free speech" and "being arrested for a tweet". Now she's profiting from a monetised Twitter account earning money from Elon Musk by tweeting stuff that will receive engagement and is set to profit from a book too.

Heather posted a very nasty tweet about an already dead person. it's not a threat or incitement it's just a nasty tweet. And all the people on the far-right defending "are Lucy" are mass reporting her to the police and her employer.

I seem to be missing something but people "shouldn't be arrested for a tweet" right? Trump, Elon Musk, Nigel Farage, Tommy etc say that multiple times a week and how Britain is such a bad country whenever this happens and how we "don't have free speech"? So I presume all these people should be outraged Heather has now been arrested for a tweet, right?

Or if we're going to start arresting people who make mean tweets then the police are going to be busy arresting Tommy Robinson (who makes false malicious allegations against brown people on an almost weekly basis now) and Reform politicians and voters?

People really need to make their minds up what "free speech" should actually mean and the threshold for when people should be arrested for an online post. You can't have one rule for the far-right and another for minorities and LGBT people.

Just a nasty tweet. Tell that to Ann's family.

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