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In which Amnesty jumps the shark

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WrongKindOfFeminist · 10/07/2026 12:11

A report on 'anti gender actors' from Amnesty appears to be a puzzling work of jumbled nonsense and overwrought fiction.

Either they completely fail to grasp what 'gender critical' means, or they are deliberately trying desperately to bundle it in with Xtian rightwing US organisations. Maybe both.

Trans activists have been accusing UK feminists of being rightwing Xtian US fundamentalist funded for years. Sometimes it's funny, more often it's just fucking tedious.

Anyway.

'An organised anti-rights movement targeting the rights of women and LGBT+ people is growing in the UK. Over 60% of the organisations mapped have emerged since 2017, the vast majority gender critical organisations'

What the everloving fuck do they think they mean, here?

Feminists 'target' the rights of women? In terms of - feminists have fought long and hard for the rights of women? Yes, well done, Amnesty.

Then they whang on a lot about abortion and well funded US rightwing organisations, including religious groups, etc.

And then ...

'In fact, gender critical organisations only account for 2.5% of total expenditure but have been remarkably successful in realising their agenda through strategic litigation and campaigning.'

Will you ever actually use your brains, Amnesty?

The list at the end should give them a wee clue. Dozens of feminist organisations, almost all listed as 'informal', yet lumped in bizarrely with massive US anti abortion groups.

Idiots.

www.amnesty.org.uk/knowledge-hub/all-resources/report-a-growing-threat-the-anti-rights-movement-in-the-uk-july-2026/

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/07/2026 22:04

Good point!

Waitwhat23 · 12/07/2026 22:55

Letter from FWS.

One of the closing sentences says it all, really -

'We recently won a case in Scotland to protect the human rights of incarcerated women in Scotland. The old Amnesty would have taken that case rather than attack the women who brought it'

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In which Amnesty jumps the shark
AFigureWalks · 12/07/2026 23:04

Three charities that used to be good and do good:
Amnesty
Stonewall
Greenpeace
And then a misogynist men’s’ sexual rights movement ruined it all.

WrongKindOfFeminist · 13/07/2026 07:28

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/07/2026 22:01

I was wondering that too. If that’s the case, someone else may be funding it as AI are broke.

Its not a strategy that is likely to make them any less broke going forward.

Just seeing a lot of TRAs claim that the feminists protesting at the libel are proving they are 'anti rights ' by threatening legal action.

Just a modern witch trial. Say nothing when libelled, and you're guilty. Protest, and you're guilty.

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sickofsixseven · 13/07/2026 08:22

Waitwhat23 · 12/07/2026 17:50

This is the kind of letters coming out of Bluesky

Wtaf. These people do not live in reality, because of course, reality is also "transphobic" I suppose. What a bunch of mentally ill weirdos who unfortunately feel they have the right to impose their delusions on the rest of us. Im glad they are finding out just how many people disagree with them outside of their echo chambers. They'll just have to cope and seethe about that and eventually, for their own sakes, accept it. Its no way to live surely, constantly angry, playing the victim and demanding the entire world agrees with you. Basically a constant toddler temper tantrum. Why do they do it to themselves?

Thecatsunderabush · 13/07/2026 08:38

If Amenesty apologises can they still be sued? An apology is meaningless if nothing changes within the institution

WrongKindOfFeminist · 13/07/2026 08:43

Thecatsunderabush · 13/07/2026 08:38

If Amenesty apologises can they still be sued? An apology is meaningless if nothing changes within the institution

Of course. A report making libellous accusations that could damage the reputation of the people involved has been published and read by a great many people. I have downloaded a copy and its on my desktop, for example.

The damage has been done. Next steps will depend on what those labelled choose to do and I expect will involve lawyers.

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WrongKindOfFeminist · 13/07/2026 08:57

*libelled

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Waitwhat23 · 13/07/2026 09:05

Letter from SPAG

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Waitwhat23 · 13/07/2026 09:07

WrongKindOfFeminist · 13/07/2026 07:28

Its not a strategy that is likely to make them any less broke going forward.

Just seeing a lot of TRAs claim that the feminists protesting at the libel are proving they are 'anti rights ' by threatening legal action.

Just a modern witch trial. Say nothing when libelled, and you're guilty. Protest, and you're guilty.

There's particularly dense TRA's demanding that AI publish the letters received to 'show up the transphobes' (slightly paraphrased).

KTheGrey · 13/07/2026 09:15

Waitwhat23 · 13/07/2026 09:07

There's particularly dense TRA's demanding that AI publish the letters received to 'show up the transphobes' (slightly paraphrased).

Lazy - those letters have been plastered all over X.

WrongKindOfFeminist · 13/07/2026 09:16

Dense TRAs are to be expected. It's the intent of Amnesty, who, while they do probably employ some relatively dense activists, one would expect to have leaders with more awareness of the legal areas of libel, defamation, etc, that matters more.

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nicepotoftea · 13/07/2026 09:38

WrongKindOfFeminist · 13/07/2026 07:28

Its not a strategy that is likely to make them any less broke going forward.

Just seeing a lot of TRAs claim that the feminists protesting at the libel are proving they are 'anti rights ' by threatening legal action.

Just a modern witch trial. Say nothing when libelled, and you're guilty. Protest, and you're guilty.

I posted this on the other thread about this, but I think it's worth re-posting here:

“I discuss about this a lot, you know, with colleagues and other people, and this is perhaps not, it's a more operational thing to do, but it's kind of, somebody talked about leveraging bureaucracy, so kind of burying them in, you know, paperwork and procedures and try to kind of like slow down how much, how effective they are.” Chiara Caparo

From Stage Talks with Bellingcat: "Mapping the Anti-Rights Movement From the US to the UK" with Amnesty International UK, 13 Feb 2026
podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/mapping-the-anti-rights-movement-from-the-us-to/id1842893341?i=1000749651610&r=2332.227
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I just can't remember people like Helen Joyce advocating similar tactics.

SwirlyGates · 13/07/2026 10:48

@nicepotoftea Helen Joyce doesn't need to do such things, she has facts!

Imnobody4 · 13/07/2026 11:04

Great letter shared by Maya with suggestions on who to write to if you're inclined.

https://x.com/i/status/2075676672553001120
I’ve sent this to Amnesty…

Dear Amnesty International,

As a supporter of three of the organisations cited in your report concerning the growth of so-called “anti-rights” groups in the UK, I am extremely concerned that you have defamed these groups and their supporters. I support Sex Matters, LGB Alliance and Seen in Journalism, none of who I would consider to be 'anti-rights'.

In my view, these organisations have been unfairly characterised by the inclusion of them in the report. Their work is not directed towards restricting the rights of others, but rather towards advocating for what they consider to be the proper and proportionate balancing of competing rights and interests, including those of women and same-sex attracted people. Whether or not one agrees with every position they take, I do not believe it is accurate or constructive to present them as organisations whose purpose is to undermine the rights of others.

The widespread publicity surrounding the report, combined with Amnesty International’s significant influence and reputation, has contributed to reputational harm for these groups. I am concerned that this damage has been caused by claims and associations that many supporters regard as ill-informed and unsupported.

Citizens in the United Kingdom are free to make independent decisions about the causes, campaigns and advocacy organisations they choose to support. For that reason, I am disappointed that Amnesty has taken a position which, in my view, has stigmatised legitimate participation in public debate rather than encouraging open discussion of complex rights issues.

I therefore ask Amnesty International to review this matter carefully and to take steps to correct the public record as soon as possible. Given the prominence of the report and the attention it has received, any correction or clarification should be made publicly and with comparable visibility.

More broadly, I believe this episode has significantly undermined the reputation of what was once widely regarded as a trusted and respected human rights organisation. I hope Amnesty will take this opportunity to demonstrate its commitment to accuracy, fairness and intellectual rigour by reconsidering the characterisation of these groups.

I would appreciate a response outlining whether Amnesty intends to review or amend its position.

Yours faithfully,

Rob Watson

From Maya
https://x.com/i/status/2075665326226767997

If you want to complain to Amnesty international for branding a bunch of civil society organisations "anti-rights" this how to do it.

email to: [email protected]

media.amnesty.org.uk/documents/AIUK…

Rob Watson (@robwmedia) on X

I’ve sent this to Amnesty… Dear Amnesty International, As a supporter of three of the organisations cited in your report concerning the growth of so-called “anti-rights” groups in the UK, I am extremely concerned that you have defamed these groups a...

https://x.com/i/status/2075676672553001120

KTheGrey · 13/07/2026 11:07

nicepotoftea · 13/07/2026 09:38

I posted this on the other thread about this, but I think it's worth re-posting here:

“I discuss about this a lot, you know, with colleagues and other people, and this is perhaps not, it's a more operational thing to do, but it's kind of, somebody talked about leveraging bureaucracy, so kind of burying them in, you know, paperwork and procedures and try to kind of like slow down how much, how effective they are.” Chiara Caparo

From Stage Talks with Bellingcat: "Mapping the Anti-Rights Movement From the US to the UK" with Amnesty International UK, 13 Feb 2026
podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/mapping-the-anti-rights-movement-from-the-us-to/id1842893341?i=1000749651610&r=2332.227
This material may be protected by copyright.

I just can't remember people like Helen Joyce advocating similar tactics.

I guess this is because the activists do not have any lawful or indeed reasonable arguments. And also because activists are willing to do unlawful or borderline unlawful things, which the women's rights side so far have conspicuously refused to do. In spite of Maya Forstater's speech last week about how the social contract has been broken by the treatment of women by the state, the women continue "conspicuously law-abiding".

It is strange to me that this spectacularly capitalist variant of individualism remains convinced that it is left wing, although it is similar to the generation that tuned in, turned on and dropped out - and imo will have a similar inter-generational fallout.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/07/2026 14:02

WrongKindOfFeminist · 13/07/2026 07:28

Its not a strategy that is likely to make them any less broke going forward.

Just seeing a lot of TRAs claim that the feminists protesting at the libel are proving they are 'anti rights ' by threatening legal action.

Just a modern witch trial. Say nothing when libelled, and you're guilty. Protest, and you're guilty.

Exactly this. The idea is that because Amnesty International are unequivocally “good”, anyone objecting to anything they do is unequivocally bad by default. Very simple.

The issue is that they are not unequivocally good.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 13/07/2026 14:10

Genspect has gone straight to threatening legal action. Good for them.

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BettyBooper · 13/07/2026 14:48

Well I found this erm... interesting 😬. From the launch of Amnesty UK's Rise Up youth activism training from 2019.

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/knowledge-hub/all-resources/amnesty-and-co-operative-bank-launch-rise-youth-activism-training-programme/

'This weekend (14-15 September) will see the first cohort of young activists take part in Amnesty International UK’s ‘Rise Up’ youth activism training programme, supported by The Co-operative Bank.

The year-long campaigning and advocacy training programme will equip young activists with the skills, knowledge and confidence they need to make positive change happen in their communities.

Hailing from all corners of the UK, the passionate young human rights defenders will be offered in-depth support and training to develop and progress their own campaigns and drive change.

As part of the programme, the activists will each choose to campaign on a human rights issue that matters to them. The broad spectrum of campaigns will range from: women’s rights, LGBTI issues, refugee rights, homelessness, discrimination, climate change and youth empowerment.'

Amnesty and The Co-operative Bank launch 'Rise Up' youth activism training programme

'Young people are not the leaders of tomorrow, but the leaders we need here and now' - Kate Allen

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/knowledge-hub/all-resources/amnesty-and-co-operative-bank-launch-rise-youth-activism-training-programme/

WrongKindOfFeminist · 13/07/2026 14:51

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/07/2026 14:02

Exactly this. The idea is that because Amnesty International are unequivocally “good”, anyone objecting to anything they do is unequivocally bad by default. Very simple.

The issue is that they are not unequivocally good.

I havent followed them for years; I wonder how much actually useful, honest, and effective work they do now.

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SingleSexMattersInCharity · 13/07/2026 15:19

I’m not sure that many of you realise how deeply entrenched in gender ideology that the third sector and funders are.

I’m in the sector and it terrifies me. Chanel (their Foundation) helped fund something connected with the AI report.

Look up Ariadne and see their online information.

Mama Cash is another.

Project Tallawah

Global Fund for Women

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/07/2026 15:38

Is there a general third sector SEEN?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 13/07/2026 15:43
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SidewaysOtter · 13/07/2026 15:49

KTheGrey · 13/07/2026 11:07

I guess this is because the activists do not have any lawful or indeed reasonable arguments. And also because activists are willing to do unlawful or borderline unlawful things, which the women's rights side so far have conspicuously refused to do. In spite of Maya Forstater's speech last week about how the social contract has been broken by the treatment of women by the state, the women continue "conspicuously law-abiding".

It is strange to me that this spectacularly capitalist variant of individualism remains convinced that it is left wing, although it is similar to the generation that tuned in, turned on and dropped out - and imo will have a similar inter-generational fallout.

Absolutely. How often do we see it here in that there is a topic for discussion and it gets massively de-railed, distracted from and bogged down in some spurious non-argument perpetuated by whoever's turn it was on the TRA Rota?

fromorbit · 13/07/2026 16:18

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