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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

In which Amnesty jumps the shark

319 replies

WrongKindOfFeminist · 10/07/2026 12:11

A report on 'anti gender actors' from Amnesty appears to be a puzzling work of jumbled nonsense and overwrought fiction.

Either they completely fail to grasp what 'gender critical' means, or they are deliberately trying desperately to bundle it in with Xtian rightwing US organisations. Maybe both.

Trans activists have been accusing UK feminists of being rightwing Xtian US fundamentalist funded for years. Sometimes it's funny, more often it's just fucking tedious.

Anyway.

'An organised anti-rights movement targeting the rights of women and LGBT+ people is growing in the UK. Over 60% of the organisations mapped have emerged since 2017, the vast majority gender critical organisations'

What the everloving fuck do they think they mean, here?

Feminists 'target' the rights of women? In terms of - feminists have fought long and hard for the rights of women? Yes, well done, Amnesty.

Then they whang on a lot about abortion and well funded US rightwing organisations, including religious groups, etc.

And then ...

'In fact, gender critical organisations only account for 2.5% of total expenditure but have been remarkably successful in realising their agenda through strategic litigation and campaigning.'

Will you ever actually use your brains, Amnesty?

The list at the end should give them a wee clue. Dozens of feminist organisations, almost all listed as 'informal', yet lumped in bizarrely with massive US anti abortion groups.

Idiots.

www.amnesty.org.uk/knowledge-hub/all-resources/report-a-growing-threat-the-anti-rights-movement-in-the-uk-july-2026/

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RoyalCorgi · 16/07/2026 13:53

lechiffre55 · 16/07/2026 11:40

Even from Amnesty's point of view option 2 has some upsides. On the surface it is eating humble pie. But there's some upsides. It comes across as taking the most responsibility, and being the best response from an onlooker's point of view. I think there's another less obvious upside for Amnesty, it opens the door to AI making staffing changes at AIUK as a result of the review and any recommendations.
@Fridayyesterday 's link on the previous page proves this wasn't a hasty slip up. This debacle has been many months in the making with Amnesty International UK’s Gender Justice Director Chiara Capraro apparently leading it. That sounds to me like a senior position. The report can't be brushed off as a mistake made in haste, it has patently been born out of strategy adopted by AIUK. That causes not only the current legal peril, but questions for AI about what else is going on in AIUK? What other problems will come out of AIUK in the future? What ongoing effects will AIUK have on the reputation of AI?
This sounds to me like a people problem. AIUK has become in my opinion a liability for AI. What better way to address an internal people problem than with an impartial external review? Especially if that review is to resolve external legal conflict resulting from AIUK's actions.
Option 2 above gives AI a chance to resolve people issues at AIUK in a very open and transparent way, avoiding legal backlash from outside, and within. A great opportunity to clean house.

I think you're right. It's a very good way of clearing up the mess and moving on, and you have a perfect excuse for doing it, which is that the nasty woman (JKR) made you. "Sorry we're having to sack you, chaps, but the horrid billionaire left us with no choice."

lcakethereforeIam · 16/07/2026 14:05

If AI sack people for doing what AI wanted them to do I hope they get a massive payoff or they're extremely forbearing. Otherwise I will keep an eye open for an ET. Might even bung a few quid if there's a crowdfunder. It would be hilarious if they applied to the JKR fund.

Chrysanthemum5 · 16/07/2026 14:09

Fridayyesterday · 16/07/2026 01:20

Or, to quote Ken Dodd, same tune

Woman is fickle
Give her a tickle…

Probably not.

A propos of nothing, I went on holiday with a Diddyman once.

I feel we all skipped over this comment about holidaying with a Diddy man!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/07/2026 14:43

HappilyHarriet · 16/07/2026 13:39

Is there another possibility, 2b if you like, where every decision maker resigns now, before it moves to legal action and before any investigation begins? A feeble apology is published, but any enquiry is hampered by the fact that all the key players are no longer working for AI, and their replacements just plead ignorance.
TBH, that’s what I’d do if I was involved with this mess - resign pronto to ‘spend more time with my family’ and ensure that someone else gets to clean up the shit.

Me too and that’s what I’d advise Amnesty to do. Someone needs to lose their job.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 16/07/2026 14:46

RoyalCorgi · 16/07/2026 13:53

I think you're right. It's a very good way of clearing up the mess and moving on, and you have a perfect excuse for doing it, which is that the nasty woman (JKR) made you. "Sorry we're having to sack you, chaps, but the horrid billionaire left us with no choice."

Except who is there in AI UK or Global who's mind isn't captured by this ideology, by now anyone who was true to AI original cause has moved on or been forced out, the only ones left are all signing from the same hymn sheet. Unless they get someone in from outside the hivemind to sort out the mess they're in, I can't see them having the sense to recognise why they're in the doodoo.

Thehorticulturalhussie · 16/07/2026 15:09

From the AIUK CEO on her appointment in February this year -

As Amnesty International marks its 65th year, attacks on our freedoms are coming from every direction. In recent years the world has begun to feel markedly harsher, more uncertain and less safe for all of us than at any point in the past few decades. From its earliest days, Amnesty International has stood at the forefront of the fight for a more just, safe and equitable world, and its name has become synonymous with human rights. I look forward to working with our Boards, staff, members, international colleagues, partner organisations and our incredible supporters across the UK to build on all that Amnesty has achieved and ensure that human rights become - and remain - the foundation of our society.”

WrongKindOfFeminist · 16/07/2026 15:37

Putting the man into human rights.

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Lovelyview · 16/07/2026 19:47

lechiffre55 · 16/07/2026 11:40

Even from Amnesty's point of view option 2 has some upsides. On the surface it is eating humble pie. But there's some upsides. It comes across as taking the most responsibility, and being the best response from an onlooker's point of view. I think there's another less obvious upside for Amnesty, it opens the door to AI making staffing changes at AIUK as a result of the review and any recommendations.
@Fridayyesterday 's link on the previous page proves this wasn't a hasty slip up. This debacle has been many months in the making with Amnesty International UK’s Gender Justice Director Chiara Capraro apparently leading it. That sounds to me like a senior position. The report can't be brushed off as a mistake made in haste, it has patently been born out of strategy adopted by AIUK. That causes not only the current legal peril, but questions for AI about what else is going on in AIUK? What other problems will come out of AIUK in the future? What ongoing effects will AIUK have on the reputation of AI?
This sounds to me like a people problem. AIUK has become in my opinion a liability for AI. What better way to address an internal people problem than with an impartial external review? Especially if that review is to resolve external legal conflict resulting from AIUK's actions.
Option 2 above gives AI a chance to resolve people issues at AIUK in a very open and transparent way, avoiding legal backlash from outside, and within. A great opportunity to clean house.

While I completely agree this is an opportunity to reset, a number of organisations - including the Democrats in America - seem determined to double down rather than seizing the lifeline they were thrown. The SNP is another one. So many opportunities to say 'Sorry lads, the court says no' yet still they bumble on.

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 16/07/2026 19:58

Lovelyview · 16/07/2026 19:47

While I completely agree this is an opportunity to reset, a number of organisations - including the Democrats in America - seem determined to double down rather than seizing the lifeline they were thrown. The SNP is another one. So many opportunities to say 'Sorry lads, the court says no' yet still they bumble on.

Yes, that's always puzzled me. Why aren't they taking the opportunity to start abiding by the law, while at the same time, having the perfect opportunity to blame someone else? They can't ALL be in on it! Not a single person in the whole of Scot Gov who says " Look, I know you don't want to do this, and I agree that it's the pits that things have not gone our way, and we know we are on the right side of history, BUT unfortunately we're going to have to obey the law. So, here's what we do: let's blame all of those other, right-wing people over there and the SC for making us enforce the law."

Not one? Has no one thought of it? Or have plenty of people said it, and those in charge are going "...nah, we'll just ignore the law and take our chances." ??

Fridayyesterday · 16/07/2026 21:36

Chrysanthemum5 · 16/07/2026 14:09

I feel we all skipped over this comment about holidaying with a Diddy man!

It was a school trip, to Germany.

Not my school, but one where one of my parents worked, and my brother and I went on their school trip with the other parent.

Ken Dodd did a summer season at a local theatre. The Diddymen were played by children, one of whom went to that school.

Sorry, explanation less interesting than it might have been. ☺

Chrysanthemum5 · 16/07/2026 21:55

No @Fridayyesterdaythat is a very cool explanation!

Fridayyesterday · 16/07/2026 21:57

Further to my post at 00:04
where I quote from the introduction to the podcast
“In this week's Stage Talk we were joined by Amnesty International UK’s Gender Justice Director Chiara Capraro. In a recent report, Chiara and her team mapped the structure and funding of 65 anti-rights groups operating across the UK."

I thought the report named well over 100 groups?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/07/2026 21:58

The podcast predates this report by a few months so maybe they added some.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 16/07/2026 21:59

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 16/07/2026 19:58

Yes, that's always puzzled me. Why aren't they taking the opportunity to start abiding by the law, while at the same time, having the perfect opportunity to blame someone else? They can't ALL be in on it! Not a single person in the whole of Scot Gov who says " Look, I know you don't want to do this, and I agree that it's the pits that things have not gone our way, and we know we are on the right side of history, BUT unfortunately we're going to have to obey the law. So, here's what we do: let's blame all of those other, right-wing people over there and the SC for making us enforce the law."

Not one? Has no one thought of it? Or have plenty of people said it, and those in charge are going "...nah, we'll just ignore the law and take our chances." ??

I have a hunch that many of them have personal relationships that make it very difficult to change tack now. Trans-identified children, nieces and nephews, friends' and colleagues' children. Research and support staff who are either trans-identified themselves or who are fervent trans allies, and who've fed the MP or other legislator all they know about this issue. It all probably seemed very simple to declare themselves trans allies too. If you don't stop and think about it, I suppose it does seem simple - if you don't wonder why LGB suddenly turned into LGBT and then LGBTQ and all the rest of it; if you take at face value the thought-terminating phrases - born in the wrong body, would you rather have a trans son or a dead daughter?, misgendering and deadnaming are literally genocide; if you don't look at what's involved in the medical treatment and the evidence base (or lack of it) - and so on.

Thecatsunderabush · 16/07/2026 22:04

I used to think there was no harm in pretending that trans women are women until I found Posie Parker posting on mumsnet. She was and is very clear about the harms .

Fridayyesterday · 16/07/2026 22:07

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/07/2026 21:58

The podcast predates this report by a few months so maybe they added some.

I expect so, but I hope the added ones won't be used to say that the report was put out in a hurry.

The podcast broadcast/published/made available (?) 5 months ago is her talking about "a recent report." Are the two reports completely different or is the second an expanded version of the first?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/07/2026 22:12

I haven’t read the Snowball one, I assumed this new one was just an updated version with their new “research”.

SinnerBoy · 16/07/2026 23:47

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/07/2026 21:58

The podcast predates this report by a few months so maybe they added some.

That knocks the "Oops! The work experience kid did it, sorrreeeee!" excuse past the long grass, over the face and into a garden the third street past the club boundary.

Fridayyesterday · 16/07/2026 23:54

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/07/2026 22:12

I haven’t read the Snowball one, I assumed this new one was just an updated version with their new “research”.

I’m not clear, but from the Times article it seems there are two reports - showing a pattern of behaviour.

lechiffre55 · Yesterday 00:16

Fridayyesterday · 16/07/2026 23:54

I’m not clear, but from the Times article it seems there are two reports - showing a pattern of behaviour.

A strategy, a policy, deliberated, and deliberate.

TheyAreLovelyLovelyPeople · Yesterday 00:32

Catching up with this weeks events (my Nanna is ill). Thank you for this thread and the links and discussions. I'll read and digest more thoroughly tomorrow.

Fist bumps all round, wims.

fromorbit · Yesterday 00:33

Cismyfatarse · 16/07/2026 22:05

Amnesty are in deeper and deeper:

Kerry Moscogiuri, the head of Amnesty International UK, should “seriously consider her position” after a second report by the charity unearthed by The Times revealed that “gender-critical” feminists were presented as anti-rights.

The report by the British chapter of the global charity claims gender-critical people — those who believe a woman is a biological female and a man is a biological male — represent “a movement against the rights of women and LGBTI people”.

Published in May, and available on Amnesty’s website, the document, “Like a snowball: the growth and impact of the gender critical movement in the UK” states “the growth and influence of the GC [gender–critical] movement” is “worrying” and has been normalised by the media. It also calls on journalists to “qualify GC and explain that it is an ideological stance that seeks to restrict the rights of trans people” in their reporting.

The revelations will heap pressure on Moscogiuri, the chief executive, after a week in which JK Rowling, on behalf of the organisation Beira’s Place, pledged to fund legal actions against the charity over a different report, which also alleged gender-critical people were “anti-rights”. It has since been withdrawn.

On Thursday, Maya Forstater of the human rights organisation Sex Matters said: “Amnesty tries to suggest that its recent report containing defamatory remarks about dozens of human-rights organisations that focus on sex-based rights was some sort of lapse in its usually balanced and fair-minded processes. Far from it: Amnesty has been misrepresenting and denigrating anyone who recognises the biological and legal importance of the two sexes for several years now.”

Sex Matters have the receipts showing Amnesty's sexism goes back years long before the reports. Thread here:
https://nitter.net/MForstater/status/2076952929752219720#m

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 06:11

Cismyfatarse · 16/07/2026 22:05

Thanks for the link, this is interesting
"Tonia Antoniazzi, the Labour MP for Gower has tabled an early day motion", not the party I'd expect this to come from.

HeddaGobbler · Yesterday 06:30

JKR has quote tweeted the times piece with this:

J.K. Rowling
Amnesty UK was already smearing feminists as 'anti-rights' back in May, according to
@thetimes
. It appears that, far from being an accidental slip up or an editorial error, the latest defamatory report accurately represents Amnesty UK's deep-seated hostility to all organisations that believe sex is real and important in contexts such as same sex attraction and healing after sexual violence and trauma. Those who've been defamed are owed an explanation of why Amnesty claimed to have withdrawn the report because of its 'language' when, per
@thetimes
article, it had already expressed exactly the same beliefs, in the same language, months previously. Many of the organisations Amnesty has attacked are grassroots campaigners with a tiny fraction of a gigantic, well-funded international NGO's resources. The defamatory report has already had serious consequences for a service supporting women at the most vulnerable time of their lives, as detailed by Beira's Place lawyers in the legal letter sent two days ago. The withdrawing of the report cannot undo the harm it has already done and is continuing to do. If Amnesty is under the illusion that the women's, children's and gay rights organisations it has attacked will be unwilling to go to court, they have made yet another massive error of judgement. They underestimate both the solidarity that exists between the targeted organisations and my willingness to support legal action, not just on behalf of Beira's Place, but for all women's and LGB organisations falsely branded 'anti-rights.'

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/2077909663790583916

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