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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

All transwomen are to be moved out of Scottish female prisons today. 🙌🏻

360 replies

sohard · 23/06/2026 12:48

https://x.com/forwomenscot/status/2069385340159225981?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

Scotgov will not appeal and the current transgender policy has been withdrawn. At long bloody last!!

For Women Scotland (@ForWomenScot) on X

Scottish Government will not appeal Lady Ross's ruling on prisons.

https://x.com/forwomenscot/status/2069385340159225981?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

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bathofbeans · 23/06/2026 13:29

But how will they tell which are the transwomen?

DuckCootLoon · 23/06/2026 13:29

Wow, well done to all the campaigners! (Genuinely).

Wishesandhorses · 23/06/2026 13:30

thisandthats · 23/06/2026 13:25

Does anyone know how many there actually are? Not disagreeing with the principle, just whether this is a bit of a victory of principle and actually in the end it's like one prisoner

I seem to remember @ArabellaScott was working this out on another thread in the last few days, not easy to do from the wangled statistics, but it's certainly more than one. It will also stop a couple of well known offenders who regularly come in and out of the prison system from being inflicted on women again.

misscockerspaniel · 23/06/2026 13:32

Shedmistress · 23/06/2026 13:01

The BBC will be all over this right?

Good day to put out this news - Peter Murrell sentencing, Starmer/Burnham, footie, the heatwave (mind you, has that reached Scotland?!)

terryleather · 23/06/2026 13:32

Never thought this would actually happen despite all the victories and the law and reality being on our side so this is beyond excellent news.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 23/06/2026 13:32

Even if there had only been one man in a women's prison, who knows how many women will have been put at risk.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 23/06/2026 13:33

bathofbeans · 23/06/2026 13:29

But how will they tell which are the transwomen?

It's truly a mystery...

EasternStandard · 23/06/2026 13:34

Amazing! Thank you to FWS women and everyone who fought for it

puffyisgood · 23/06/2026 13:34

bathofbeans · 23/06/2026 13:29

But how will they tell which are the transwomen?

Will be self ID, presumably.

Alucard55 · 23/06/2026 13:37

bathofbeans · 23/06/2026 13:29

But how will they tell which are the transwomen?

They'll look for the special women with nice lipstick on.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/06/2026 13:37

Fantastic news! 🥳

quixote9 · 23/06/2026 13:38

Plus completely missing from mainstream reporting: that this isn't about trans people. It's about women. (You know. Those strange beings who are half the human race?)

The point is opening the door to men of bad faith to victimise women.

(Of which we have had plentiful examples lately. And since forever. These are physical facts. The evidence is everywhere. It doesn't vanish because the ones who suffer are women.)

Maybe mention the men who use every excuse for camouflage whether it's being Scoutmasters or being trans at least once in every discussion?

Because that is the point. (Some) men's appalling and criminal behavior.

If trans people don't like being limited by men's criminality, well, join the club. Women can talk to you about that.

Wishesandhorses · 23/06/2026 13:42

Also about viewing the women's resources and provisions as something men can be entitled to under any circumstances at all, as opposed to being for and about women.

sohard · 23/06/2026 13:47

thisandthats · 23/06/2026 13:25

Does anyone know how many there actually are? Not disagreeing with the principle, just whether this is a bit of a victory of principle and actually in the end it's like one prisoner

Even if there were only one at this moment in time, even if there were none at this moment in time, there would be some in the future. I’m pretty sure there is more than one transwoman prisoner in a female prison at this moment in time though.

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NotNatacha · 23/06/2026 13:49

Are we sure that the transfer will happen today, rather than the work to implement the transfer?

All transwomen are to be moved out of Scottish female prisons today. 🙌🏻
Lovelyview · 23/06/2026 13:51

This feels monumental. A clear result with the goal achieved. Now lets see what the English government does.

bathofbeans · 23/06/2026 13:56

Alucard55 · 23/06/2026 13:37

They'll look for the special women with nice lipstick on.

The ones with petticoats.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 23/06/2026 13:58

They can pass the time chatting with Peter Murrell about his £3000 robotic lawn mower

PersonIrresponsible · 23/06/2026 13:59

The judge in Giggle v Tickle stated that Trans women wear V necks.

This should help narrow down which prisoners need to be transferred.

spannasaurus · 23/06/2026 14:00

I can't see that any transfers will take place today purely down to the logistics of finding spaces in another prison and arranging transport

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 23/06/2026 14:06

Massive thanks to everyone who campaigned! FlowersFlowers It would be nice to see SPS apologise to those poor women prisoners but I guess that's not how it works. Moving the male prisoners out matters most!

Toffeefudgecaramel · 23/06/2026 14:16

This murderer has been held in a women's prison for 10 years. He's in prison for luring a gay man to his home and stabbing him 16 times. After conviction he decided to identify as a woman. He also managed to get his criminal record expunged. He's recently been charged with sexually assaulting a woman at the prison (and I think may now be housed elsewhere, while awaiting trial). Presumably the Scottish Prison Service came to the conclusion that he was not an "unreasonable" danger to the female inmates.
Trans prisoner charged with sexual assault in women's jail - BBC News

A general view of the entrace to HMP Greenock. A small, dark stone wall sits in front of the main building with the name of the prison on a white panel.

Trans prisoner charged with sexual assault in women's jail

Alexandra Stewart, previously known as Alan Baker, was charged over an alleged attack at HMP Greenock.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4glne43101o

DauntlessDamson · 23/06/2026 14:20

This is the best news I've heard all week.

👏👏👏🍾 to FWS!

oldtiredcyclist · 23/06/2026 14:42

When are they going to remove males from women's prisons in England? As far as I am aware, former fell runner Lauren Jeska, who tried to murder UK Athletics HR head Ralph Knibbs in 2016, is still being held at HM Prison Foston Hall, which is a women's closed category prison.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Jeska

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HM_Prison_Foston_Hall

Lauren Jeska - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Jeska

DrSpartacularsMagnificentOctopus · 23/06/2026 14:48

Hurrah 🎉