Transgender women will not be prosecuted in the use of women’s single sex facilities

[Theotheruser]

You can support transgender rights or not but the law isn’t itself politics. Transgender women will not be prosecuted in the use of women’s single sex facilities in public in the standard use the facilities was built for.

A standard use is:

• A transgender woman goes into the women’s toilet facilities in a cubicle for the purposes of relieving bodily fluids.
• A transgender woman goes into the women’s changing facilities in a cubicle for the purposes of removing clothing for leisure activities.
• A transgender woman goes into the women’s toilet facilities to protect the transgender women of being attacked or sexually assaulted.

A transgender woman in the standard uses of the women’s facilities are not exposing the users of the single sex facilities.

A transgender woman in the standard uses of the women’s facilities are not exposing child users in the single sex facilities.

A child user using single sex women’s facilities can’t deny other women public access of the facilities the child user believes are transgender.

With official documentation of the new sex will be difficult to disprove the claim of the transgender women being the male sex.

No harassment or sexual offences can be found against the transgender woman in the standard use of the women’s facilities with official documentation of the new sex.

A woman in the women’s single sex facility can be prosecuted for an offence and or removed if the woman is abusing or harassing the other user of being transgender without proof.

A woman recording and sharing publicly the other user without proof of being transgender can prosecuted.

The Supreme Court ruling or EHRC guidance has not changed the law to prosecute transgender women in women’s single sex spaces.

Transgender women have history of official records to support beyond a reasonable doubt the new gender identity. Have protection of gender discrimination.

Prosecution of transgender women is not going to work in the standard uses of the women’s facilities.

A woman can complain to management but unless management decides to take action to resolve the issue no action can be taken against the other user.

This is a weird thread.

Why are they using ANY space they’re not entitled to?

Transgender people have gender reassignment and discrimination rights and human rights to dignity and respect in the workplace.

YOU may not fight back. Other women have and will.
Don't be so bloody defeatist.

Would you fight for your daughter if she was faced with a fetishistic male in her private space?

And the law says they need to use single sex spaces for their biological sex.

The disabled is now called the accessible. If you think it’s being left a mess maybe put a sign up asking that ambulant users can help keep it clean and keep the pull cord in place (not tied up).

If there are adequate third spaces I don’t think there is a problem

A risk assessment was carried out and the men’s is not 💯 safe for transgender women of risk of harm.

For insurance purposes, disabled or women’s toilets are the toilets the transgender women can use. If the disabled toilet is out of order the transgender women can use the women’s toilets. The workplace must provide facilities.

Women have rights too

Where are you getting this rubbish from?

I thought they spent ages saying being trans wasn't a disability, and now it is?

Transwomen are men, amd if they don't trust men, that's a them problem. Not a women or people with disabilities problem. How about they ask the men to behave (disclaimer, I think they be perfectly safe in the men's, bar the possibility of some mocking).

Workplace policy of my employer. All of us women accepted the transgender employee must have a toilet and can use the women’s toilet if the disabled toilet is out of order.

Except they literally can’t use women’s toilets because it’s not lawful to do so and any professional assessing risk would know that.

It’s lawful to allow transgender women to use the women’s toilets if there is no other provision is available. If the disabled toilets being out of order. The transgender women must able to access toilets. Men’s are no go.

At this point, considering the rule that men, no matter their gender feelz, are NOT allowed in women only spaces is well known about, I can only assume any of the men folk still entering a women's toilets is there because he's a wrong 'un.

It's really very simple: No men in women's only spaces. Those men now found in those spaces (and yes we can spot them a mile off) can only be there for nefarious reasons. Or, to give some the benefit of the doubt, 🙄 they are just really really really stupid.

That’s not true at all. They can and should go in the men’s. There is provision for them there.

Where do disabled employees go when their facilities are out of order?

Trans identifying men should use the men’s.

That’s just not going to happen

Why not?

The workplace doesn’t have disabled employees so the toilet was not used.

Both women and transgender women use the toilet. It’s easier to use a mooncup in the disabled toilet.

Can you tell us why they can’t use the men’s?

I can’t imagine any trans person feeling comfortable in a space for their birth sex

Oh dear.
thats a shame.

what am I? Collateral damage?

Why is that more important than the discomfort of women who are forced to share with males?