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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Rowling Makes a Stand

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JadeLeader · 20/06/2026 01:06

Ok, so I know the educated classes hate us and our Dear Leader, but she's really not doing herself any favours here...

Rowling Makes a Stand
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MonetsLilac · 20/06/2026 17:41

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 17:38

She said she bought some but they forgot to put it in the bag.

I didn't believe her.

No indeed, that's par for the course.

DeanElderberry · 20/06/2026 17:48

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 17:38

She said she bought some but they forgot to put it in the bag.

I didn't believe her.

darling beetle, ever the sceptic.

fromorbit · 20/06/2026 18:29

JKR just doesn't seem to realise she has been defeated and told off by men who know so much more about WW2 than her. She is still saying and doing things.

JK Rowling offers to bank roll class-action lawsuit against SNP Government over 'unlawful' prison policy
JK Rowling called on the First Minister to apologise to female prisoners following the court ruling by Lady Ross

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/jk-rowling-offers-bank-roll-37324678

JK Rowling offers to bank roll class-action lawsuit against SNP Government

JK Rowling called on the First Minister to apologise to female prisoners following the court ruling by Lady Ross

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/jk-rowling-offers-bank-roll-37324678

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 18:35

MonetsLilac · 20/06/2026 17:41

No indeed, that's par for the course.

She even made me transfer the money for the Sainsbury's shopping, my half of the bucket AND the coleslaw.

I reckon she's just jealous because my yacht is bigger than hers. (And I get my cigars hand rolled by gerbils)

MonetsLilac · 20/06/2026 19:01

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 18:35

She even made me transfer the money for the Sainsbury's shopping, my half of the bucket AND the coleslaw.

I reckon she's just jealous because my yacht is bigger than hers. (And I get my cigars hand rolled by gerbils)

Well, she sold me her last yacht and to be honest, it's been a let down. It's not even the biggest one on the Manchester Ship Canal.

dapsnotplimsolls · 20/06/2026 19:24

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 18:35

She even made me transfer the money for the Sainsbury's shopping, my half of the bucket AND the coleslaw.

I reckon she's just jealous because my yacht is bigger than hers. (And I get my cigars hand rolled by gerbils)

Your yacht is the one previously owned by J Stalin, yes? 😁

TheFleeceandFascinator · 20/06/2026 19:42

NotBadConsidering · 20/06/2026 12:25

Was this the yacht she used to encircle Stalingrad in the Summer of ‘69?

😂
This is why I love Mumsnet. Makes this whole nonsensical thread worthwhile.

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 20:22

dapsnotplimsolls · 20/06/2026 19:24

Your yacht is the one previously owned by J Stalin, yes? 😁

You promised, when you sold it to me, you'd never mention that piece of information again .

SadTimesInFife · 20/06/2026 22:15

@Tooobvious That's fine!
Thanks for the recommendation, I'll look for it.
The Woman In Berlin ŵas an impulse purchase at the time, but it's a must-read. A haunting tale.

SidewaysOtter · 20/06/2026 22:21

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 20/06/2026 10:08

Great post.
Though I really want a waffle now.

Potato or a proper waffle? I mean, I like the nostalgia of a potato waffle but you can't beat a proper Belgian affair with liquid chocolate that ends up all over your face.

SidewaysOtter · 20/06/2026 22:23

Imdunfer · 20/06/2026 10:53

@EmilyinEverton GC people aren't anti trans? This is news.

And theirin lies your problem. That it is news to you just proves that you don't listen.

I don't know anyone who wants any more from trans people than that they stay out of women only spaces, out of female category sport and clubs and off women only shortlists.

There was someone who wrote a blog post about this. Something along the lines of "Call yourself what you please, dress as you please, date who'll have you, but stay out of women's spaces".

I'm paraphrasing but if you give me a moment I'm sure I'll remember who wrote that...

SidewaysOtter · 20/06/2026 22:24

NotBadConsidering · 20/06/2026 10:55

At least the OP bowed out (so far) when they realised their error. Emily, on the other hand…

It’s like watching Ray Gun breakdance.

Or like watching a clown run across a minefield: funny and awful in almost equal measure...

SidewaysOtter · 20/06/2026 22:29

RedToothBrush · 20/06/2026 12:39

Omg yes. She goes out at night on her broomstick creating them. I saw evidence of this on the internet.

I saw Goody Rowling fly over Ingersoll's barn. Send for Reverend Parris!

Anyway. We've had revisionism, accusations that we're all Nazis, reference to genocide, JKR bashing, deliberate misinformation and a left-field discussion about yacht ownership. I'm fairly sure that's HOUSE on tonight's bingo card?

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 22:38

SidewaysOtter · 20/06/2026 22:21

Potato or a proper waffle? I mean, I like the nostalgia of a potato waffle but you can't beat a proper Belgian affair with liquid chocolate that ends up all over your face.

Birds Eye potato waffles, they're waffly versatile

potato moving GIF
selffellatingouroborosofhate · 20/06/2026 22:40

What in Rowling's TwiX post denies the Holocaust? She's criticising the quoted post's poor logic skills. The quoted post is akin to someone pointing out that Hitler was a vegetarian and asking why someone who doesn't eat meat is upholding Hitler's values.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 22:40

SidewaysOtter · 20/06/2026 22:21

Potato or a proper waffle? I mean, I like the nostalgia of a potato waffle but you can't beat a proper Belgian affair with liquid chocolate that ends up all over your face.

Mix it up, potato waffle with chocolate sauce

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 20/06/2026 22:42

EmilyinEverton · 20/06/2026 03:27

"Holocaust denial is any attempt to negate the established facts of the Nazi genocide of European Jews. Holocaust denial and distortion are forms of antisemitism, prejudice against or hatred of Jews.

https://www.ushmm.org/antisemitism/holocaust-denial-and-distortion

Which is not what her TwiX post did.

Seethlaw · 20/06/2026 22:45

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 22:40

Mix it up, potato waffle with chocolate sauce

!!! I love potatoes, I love chocolate... I might have to try this, damn you!

Boiledbeetle · 20/06/2026 22:46

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 22:40

Mix it up, potato waffle with chocolate sauce

🤢

No Way GIF
DialSquare · 20/06/2026 22:48

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 22:40

Mix it up, potato waffle with chocolate sauce

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Schitts Creek Comedy GIF by CBC
selffellatingouroborosofhate · 20/06/2026 22:54

The goblins who run Gringott's are fantasy creatures in a book series in which magic exists. I am sick of authors being told what they can and can't have in the fantasy worlds they create.

It's also pretty anti-semitic to interprete anything to do with running a bank as a coded reference to Jews. It's as if the person writing that article saw "bank" and couldn't think of anything but "Jew". Jews work in all sorts of fields and most bankers are not Jewish. One of the people hiding with Ann Frank was a dentist.

SidewaysOtter · 20/06/2026 23:04

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 22:40

Mix it up, potato waffle with chocolate sauce

See, of all JKR’s terrible crimes - which includes the invention of celery, those stupid little stickers on apples that you can’t unpeel, and people who get to barriers in stations and THEN look for their ticket - she has never come up with such a heinously unforgivable suggestion as this.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 20/06/2026 23:05

EmilyinEverton · 20/06/2026 04:45

To extend this beyond Emily’s Wikipedia history the Nazis had no objection to heterosexual cross dressing.

This is false.

"Queer Women, Gender-Nonconforming People, and Trans People
While the Nazis used Paragraph 175 to arrest and charge queer men, there was not a similar law that targeted other queer people. This does not mean that other queer people were not persecuted. The Nazis used several other laws and policies to target and punish people whose gender identity and sexuality did not conform with the party’s ideals. Paragraph 183, for example, was the German law against “causing a public disturbance with a lewd act.” The Nazis often arrested trans people under the law and argued that “cross dressing” caused a public disturbance. Fritz Kitzing was a gender nonconforming person who was arrested while in women’s clothing in 1933. The Nazis charged them under Paragraph Paragraph 361, the law against homelessness and begging. And as historian on trans woman Liddy Bacroff demonstrates, the Nazis did not recognize transgender identities as legitimate, and trans women were often arrested under Paragraph 175 as homosexual men."

"Some scholars have argued that because lesbians and transgender people were not targeted by specific laws and did not have their own separate prisoner category (and corresponding colored triangle), they were not really persecuted. This stance is dangerous because it relies on viewing this history through the Nazis’ own intentions and classification system to explain the experiences of the victims. The fact that lesbians and trans people were labeled as asocials rather than under their own separate category does not change that they were imprisoned and persecuted in concentration camps. The Nazi persecution of queer women and trans people was different from the Nazi persecution of queer men, but it was persecution nonetheless."

https://www.pinktrianglelegacies.org/learn/history

It's interesting that both the Nazis & GC feminists both considered trans people as gays.

On the wider issue I think the forces of Gender Ideology are already in retreat, so the analogy isn’t perfect, but successfully suing WPATH

Malpractice via breaching standards of care is a common problem throughout the medical profession so to assume this is some sort of 'take down' of WPATH is quite the leap.

(and both the massive leak of WPATH files and the recent court cases provide more than enough material) would be a decisive blow.

The WPATH Files have been thoroughly discredited.

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/fact-check-216-instances-of-factual

https://www.creativeboom.com/inspiration/soldier-studies-fascinating-photographs-of-cross-dressing-in-the-third-reichs-army/

The Nazis had no problem with straight men cross-dressing.

Soldier Studies: Fascinating photographs of cross-dressing in the Third Reich's army

Fascinating photographs of cross-dressing in the Third Reich's army.

https://www.creativeboom.com/inspiration/soldier-studies-fascinating-photographs-of-cross-dressing-in-the-third-reichs-army/

Wishesandhorses · 20/06/2026 23:31

those stupid little stickers on apples that you can’t unpeel

I am never forgiving her for that one.

murasaki · 20/06/2026 23:36

Wishesandhorses · 20/06/2026 23:31

those stupid little stickers on apples that you can’t unpeel

I am never forgiving her for that one.

Nonsense, celery is the real deal breaker.