Rowling Makes a Stand

[JadeLeader]

Ok, so I know the educated classes hate us and our Dear Leader, but she's really not doing herself any favours here...

Me too 🤣 i mean, it isn’t going to taste bad per se, is it?

What on earth makes you think those guys are straight?

I’ve got a female name in my MN username, although, considering Terry Jones was a big hairy man, er……anyway

Just imagining the side convo Big Em has been having with ChatGPT since their first post
”Grrr, you didn’t say that the Stalingrad analogy is figurative not literal. You’ve made me look like a right numpty now. How do I get out of it?”
ChatGPT “Double down on the You’re All Nazis angle”

(oh PS Terry Jones was actually quite small but he identified as big 😉)

What makes you think they aren't?

Another example of where Emily not only has no grasps of thr facts but hasn't even read the "gotcha" arguments he thinks are going to crush us. First of all, Rowling's depictions of goblins are positive and her physical depictions of them are simply reflecting the general mythology of them (short, long-nosed).

The supposedly anti-Semitic portrayal of the goblins is not from Rowling's books, but from the Harry Potter films. Even John Stewart in the NBC article Emily links to is quoted as talking about the goblins in the films not the book: "Have you ever seen a 'Harry Potter' movie? Have you ever seen the scenes in Gringotts bank? Do you know what those folks who run the bank are? Jews!”

Moreover, at the time John Stewart himself said that he was absolutely not claiming JK Rowling is anti-Semitic and lots of Jewish people came out in defence of her.

It's just another insane claim to try to make us believe that JK Rowling is a Nazi and that's why she doesn't believe that humans can change sex.

Well at the very best, you have no idea whether they are, they aren't or they're a mix, but I'd suggest there are a few clues in the photograph that would make it pretty odd to assume they are all straight.

There's this thing called entertainment 'drag'.

Drag in the military for humour or entertainment stemming from carnival culture isn't anything exclusive to gays or germans. That this is 'confused' for gender non conformity says more about the perceivers obsessive nature.

www.beachesofnormandy.com/articles/Infantry_in_drag/?id=265c63be13

Oh come on Emily, do you think it's reasonable to look at that picture and state that all those men are straight?

Drag? Are you even aware that the vast majority of drag artists self declare as LGBTQ++?

Being anything other than straight, or at least straight-presenting, in the German military during WW2 would be dangerous, possibly fatal.

Whereas doing drag was fine.

Exactly. None of us know.

They could all be heterosexual, all homosexual, or a mixture.

But give us the "clues" you spotted that apparently make it odd to assume they are all heterosexual.

In 1940s Germany no one in drag was identifying as T or Q or +. And the homosexual ones were no doubt literally under pain of death to keep their mouths shut about the fact.

In 1940s Germany I'd bet all those men said they were heterosexual.

JK Rowling has creative control over Harry Potter movies including script approval so she knew & could have changed it had she wanted to.

As far as Jon Stewart goes, he's a lot cleverer than you think. The visuals speak for themselves AND he knows that. It's a cunning way to draw attention to something but not be open to JK Rowlings lawyers.

Oh my, OP. Are you doing a deliberate parody? You can't be seriously running through the TRA 'Big Book of Made up examples of JKR's Evil Doing' seriously, can you?

At least it's resulted in amusing posts from other posters.

But seriously. Eeesh.

If YOU look at goblins and think 'Jews', you are the racist.

You understand that, right?

These weren't "drag artists" just like football players, students & fancy dress blokes who do the same sort of thing to 'let off steam' aren't.

Probably doesn't.

Oh for goodness sake, give it up. Its just ridiculous to keep ploughing this furrow. So JKR is a literal Nazi? Don’t be do daft. And its this kind of overreach that has most ordinary people rolling their eyes. She doesn’t believe that male people can become female people. And for that, every word she has written, everything she buys in Tescos, every time she sings along to “Let it Be” on the radio, is somehow proof that she’s a Nazi witch. Give your head a wobble mate.

So John Stewart actually meant up is down, and right is left, and forwards is backwards, and the Nazis won Stalingrad really, and in Upsy-Down Town, the sky is in the sea, the sea is where the sky should be, the rain is falling up, instead of falling down, down in Upsy-Down Town.

Strange that you only just joined yesterday, and your first post was to go straight to the feminist section and attack Rowling. You Trans/UK Redditors really aren't even trying.

The obsession with JKR and holding her to a standard that's fucking ridiculous and not comparable to anyone else is hilarious.

You may as well call her Queen. You'd implode without having a villain in your own self created drama. Just so you can treat and make yourself look like a hero/victim with your virtue signalling nonsense.

The hypocrisy is extraordinary.

It's a film. Some numpty will always be along with a bunch of conspiracy theories about particularly successful franchises. Or write some bullshit third rate fanfic because they like to shit on the author because of their own sense of self importance.

Retaining creative control doesn't mean super human ability to spot every possible interpretation and to be ridiculously politically correct to the point of blandness and erasing every possible representation that someone might find even the teenyweeniest bit offensive.

The baddies in films have long been massive stereotypes which reflect an era. The current era seems to be lots of British Baddies (which is also a great thing and reflective of the sheer number of good British actors who can pull in a box office) but we've had play of Russian baddies, the East Asian baddies, Middle Eastern baddies, German baddies. We are also getting lots of American baddies too.

There is no getting it right tbh. Unless you get rid of everyone a bit mean in a film. And by that I mean even Disney fails. We just would have beginning where there were already living happily ever after.

It is flaming ridiculous. And impossible.

I'm going for the line the JRK is a human. A good human. She may not always keep everyone happy. Nor is she perfect. But that's ok with me.

She's firmly shat on by dickheads though.

There's this thing called a stereotypical 'caricature'.

https://antisemitism.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Antisemitic-imagery-May-2020.pdf

See 28 "jewish gold"

The goblins don't own the gold in Gringott's. Private people do. The goblins run the bank, and keep the gold safe for other people. It's almost like they don't care about gold at all and that's why they are in charge of the bank 🤔

Pure cope or ignorance.

Have you actually read any Harry Potter or know anything about JKR's writing ability? JK Rowling's ability to understand and use traditional symbols is widely regarded as highly sophisticated and syncretic. She seamlessly blends classical mythology, folklore, alchemy, and Christian imagery to add psychological and moral depth to her narratives, often hiding complex, universal truths beneath accessible, modern storytelling. And you seriously believe she never heard of jewish caricatures?

Again: the goblins don't love gold. That's precisely why they are in charge of the bank: because they can be trusted to not steal people's gold. So if she had Jews in mind when writing her goblins, then she turned the stereotype on its head.