Guardian: weaponised emotional blackmail from 14yo 'trans' athlete

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The Guardian's rearguard action on reality continues. Apparently the problem is not the parents and authorities who conspired to lie to this boy, coddle his delusions, disadvantage all girls around him in the service of his own wishful thinking etc etc etc: it's definitely the people who pointed it out:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/17/trans-athlete-no-one-should-face-vicious-attacks

I am prepared to feel a little sorry for the kid, who couldn't have been exposed like this if the useful idiots around him had done their fucking jobs. But the Grauniad can fuck off with the tired 'beee kiiiind' shit as a solution. Been there, binned the t-shirt. We want our shit back.

Tyrannosaur or Sauropod? You may need to stock up on raw meat.

You can pretend your drill bits are tiny unicorn horns.

Because they never have to grow up?

Maybe... is it Peter Pan or Stefonknee 'not growing up'?

For the record I checked whether anacondas do actually eat gerbils. Apparently they’re not a natural part of their diet because they’re quite small for large anacondas to hunt for, but given the opportunity they will eat gerbils. And apparently young anacondas in captivity are fed gerbils among other small rodents

So the gerbils are absolutely within their rights to ask for gerbil-identifying anacondas to be kept out of their single-gerbil spaces.

Can’t think of a human analogy though.🤔

Nope. Still not coming to mind. 😂

Oi oi. 'Designed' sounds dangerously creationist.

You'll be trying to tell me I'm not actually a beetle next.

You would destroy women and girls' legal, social and political rights and deligitimise the female voice - the rights and voice half of humanity - because of sonething that might "possibly" be true, and which even if it is true only changes how someone perceives their sex, not what their sex actually is?

Not good enough. Not good enough at all.

And I’m not a regal feline dinosaur. Outrageous.

But when a boy thinks he is a girl, that does make it true?

I'm sorry. But no one has done this.

Perhaps you would like to retract that lie.

Trans kids find getting beaten up & sexually assaulted pretty tedious too. Shame about the adults who enable that.

@TransParentlyAnnoyed is, I believe, talking about her DD who identifies as a boy but has been sexually harassed or assaulted by boys in her school. Perhaps in spaces reserved for boys. This is abhorrent and our hearts should go out to that poor poor girl.

Where Transparent is mistaken is when she says shame about the adults, she means the women here (and some men). Instead of blaming those who are doing their darnest to protect young children and teens, one day, she may realise the adults who have ‘enabled’ that to happen are the many professionals who have embraced the gender ideology without a second thought about the negative implications for our children.

It is unfortunate that TPA has come to also believe in this horrific ideology claiming children can be born in the wrong body (what a terrible message), but surely there’s some leeway in understanding that educators, doctors, police, prisons, companies, social workers, politicians have all jumped on the trans bandwagon and perpetuate this message ad nauseum. So it’s no surprise that some parents do. It is a nightmare.

And this is where the parallel drawn elsewhere on this thread between transgender ideology and Christianity falls flat on its face.

Some MN posters love to jump in with the term 'sky fairy' when there's a discussion about religion (particularly Christianity), or they talk about indoctrinating children when there is a discussion about church schools, or they blame Christianity for all sorts of stuff. You don't see the Christians on MN calling it 'hate speech... ignorant Christianophobia'.

And I still haven't had a response to my comment that ethnic identity is waaaaaay more than melanin (re Rachel Dolezal).

Strange, that.

OK, so let's say a man raped a woman. And let's say he raped her in the women's toilets. Now let's add in the man who raped the woman in the toilets was a man who declared himself to be a woman called Lucinda.

Your believe him when he says he is a women stood at the point he claimed he was a woman to gain access to the women only toilets.

Your believe him when he says he is a women stood at the point he claimed he was a woman in order to gain access to a women's toilet cubicle so he could jerk off at the sound of women going to the toilet.

Your believe him when he says he is a women stood at the point he claimed he was a woman and upon realising he was now on his own in the woman's toilets with just one other woman took the opportunity to drag that woman into a cubicle and rape her.

Your believe him when he says he is a women stood at the point he claimed he was a woman as he entered women only spaces for the 2 years he was on bail waiting to go to court in connection with the rape of a woman in the women's toilets.

Your believe him when he says he is a women stood at the point he claimed he was a woman all the way through the trial.

So why when he is convicted of the rape do you suddenly decide he's forfeited his right to be believed that he is who he says he is?

What if he was never arrested for the crime and therefore never got a conviction of rape? and instead he roams free being taken at his word that he's a woman by people like you as he leaves a trail of destruction in his wake.

If you knew he was a rapist but not a convicted rapist would you still play the he is what he says he is game?

Basically, at what point do you personally say "No mate, you're a bloody man"? Is it truly only at conviction?

Because my point of "No mate, you're a bloody man" is the first time some man attempts to gaslight me, not at the point of some court handing down a conviction.

Tyrannosaur or Sauropod? You may need to stock up on raw meat

Will chocolate buttons do? I think he'd kill for those at the mo.

Oi oi. 'Designed' sounds dangerously creationist

Yeah. My bad (as they say. Ugh)
I can't match the literary skills here 🎓

If this was the case, dont you think it would have been discovered by now? Something should indicate that a glitch has happened.

There have been a few theories floating about for a while. One is where the hormone level is wrong in pregnancy and another where these boys and men have 'woman' structured brains.

But in all of the years where the medical profession has developed drug therapies and surgeries, they have never thought to find such a test. Do you think, maybe its because they aren't going to spend money trying to find something they know isnt going to be there?

A fun fact, when the woman brain theory was at its peak, lots of trans people said they wouldnt get scanned because they already know that they are trans, so don't need diagnosing.

Although I don't blame them, if I found out I had a male brain, id laugh and definitely not act all manly.

They may honestly believe it all their life.

But if you have a female who ends up with chronic issues around bone density and atrophy from their twenties and thirties and a dawning realisation that everyone else settled down, had kids and have their health and you are looking at disabling issues and being increasingly isolated, that's not really kind to have lied and affirmed unquestioningly. Or you do manage to have a family and realise that and the realistic issue that taking those drugs probably is going to be life limiting and likely to result in your life being shorter and you want that time and a decent quality of life.

And you start to realise that no one told you this properly because they were too busy affirming you and not giving you accurate information which we do know now because everyone was too bloody scared of TELLING THE TRUTH.

This is the problem. It is inescapable. We can't divorce our minds from our bodies! We can't suspend the reality of the consequences of taking these drugs. We can pretend all we like and force others to go along with it via emotional blackmail or coercion but it doesn't actually change anything.

We can have extreme cosmetic surgery but that doesn't change our bone structure. It doesn't change our chemical make up.

It is an extreme form of avoidant type behaviour. This is a type of anxiety. The treatment for this is not to enable this constantly precisely because this becomes disabling in its own right - being trans is a form of avoidant behaviour. So I do believe it's real but I don't think it's something that can not should be just gone along with because this causes harms.

No matter how much we would like to.

That means the parents who tell us we are harming their children by not being honest about this also have an issue and are frankly abusive / also have avoidant type behaviour because they are unwilling to support their child through this and admit that sex does matter. They are just kicking the can down the road to a later date when this realisation will kick in, in some form. It's better this comes earlier pre-medicalisation. That's the bottom line. There will always be something of a cliff edge where you realise that actually you will never actually be the opposite sex despite efforts.

I say this frequently. There is nothing more I would like to do than being able to wave a magic wand and people could change sex. But we can't. And it always comes back to this point where reality ultimately kicks it.

We should not be sacrificing women and women's rights to people who will still ultimately have this same issue where they can't actually be the opposite sex. It doesn't change this immovable 'wall of reality'.

He's sad he's not a female. I'm sure his invisible sister is just completely happy...

It's like gravity and Icarus. Icarus ignored the warnings and he knew better. And he ultimately fell to his death.

There is a whole cohort ignoring the reality of sex and telling us they know better and they won't be affected by reality. This is DENIAL . It is a LIE. We aren't being unkind saying this. We don't help anyone by pretending to the contrary. Indeed it's harmful to do this. We are trying to HELP and to SAVE young people from this inevitably. We ARE kind. It's just that what we are saying is difficult and not necessarily what they want to hear. Even if they persist in a trans identity they STILL will have to terms with this reality at some point or at some level. Because human relationships and reproduction or medical conditions and presentation don't change because you have an identity crisis.

It doesn't stop what we are saying being TRUE. And that's the ultimate problem.

It doesn't matter what the reasons are for any of it. We go back to being unable to divorce ourselves from our bodies. We might be able to divorce our personality from our presentation in terms of online identity or trying to pass to a certain extent but it's still a façade and it is a poor solution to a problem that can't fully be resolved.

To fail to admit this, is to fail children and to fail women and to fail gay people. (And this is why it's not the same as being gay either).

I didn't mention Christianity.

I was referring to the rage and hate speech directed at a child. It is completely unacceptable - and actually, it's not Christian. Certainly most Christians I know would not speak about a child that way.

Hate speech needs calling out. It's the precursor to, and enabler of, real-world violence.

There is no such thing as 'transgender ideology' btw. Trans people are individuals.

The girl in the article explained she knew who she was before she was even five years old - which is pretty common for trans kids, although most struggle to articulate until they're older. Anyone who genuinely believes someone else did that to her needs serious help.

Re female brains.

No there's nothing that has actually shown the female brain in research.

What they have found is the 'extremist brain' and how deradicalisation can change this. So if you are immersed in an ideology it affects your cognitive abilities and it stops you from thinking. You don't question. When exposed to alternative ideas this changes the brain over time and you can retrain it to look like a 'normal' brain.

This is utterly fascinating in the context of affirmation only approaches, deliberately attempts to have no debate and trans echo chambers online.

I've posted about this at length on MN before so a quick search will bring up this research if you are genuinely interested in the concept of brains.

I am fucking angry at every adult who has enabled it.

This includes people like you who deliberately suggest the boy is a target for hate here. This is another lie.

He's is an entitled brat who needs to be dealt with appropriately (no this does not mean violence. It's being told no firmly). But you only get entitled brats because parents don't parent.

Truth stated plainly is never hate speech.

"Trans women are women" and everything that comes with it is by definition an ideology.

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Freedom is only maintained by the willingness of the individual and the public to speak the truth to power.

There are no exceptions.