Guardian: weaponised emotional blackmail from 14yo 'trans' athlete

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The Guardian's rearguard action on reality continues. Apparently the problem is not the parents and authorities who conspired to lie to this boy, coddle his delusions, disadvantage all girls around him in the service of his own wishful thinking etc etc etc: it's definitely the people who pointed it out:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/17/trans-athlete-no-one-should-face-vicious-attacks

I am prepared to feel a little sorry for the kid, who couldn't have been exposed like this if the useful idiots around him had done their fucking jobs. But the Grauniad can fuck off with the tired 'beee kiiiind' shit as a solution. Been there, binned the t-shirt. We want our shit back.

So you don't think it's possible that you could be born in the wrong body. I do. In very rare cases. I don't think anything should be encouraged or enforced. I would presume a girl saying such things is just a tomboy BUT as I've explained before if someone is insisting they are a different gender ten years down the line then who am I to deny them their lives experience? I don't get what that's so hard to grasp

The reality is it doesn't matter what your brain is saying. You need to deal with the fact that you should not be competing with the opposite sex in sport. Because fairness, safety, privacy and dignity.

It changes nothing regardless of what you think.

Yeah, I picked that up pages back. No reply.

I'm wondering if we have someone like Boiledbeetle wandering around in a troll suit winding us up. Dunno, keeping our arguments well-honed, all of that.

ETA, not the recent poster. The one who picked up anacondas and ran with them.

So you don't think it's possible that you could be born in the wrong body. I do

What is the “you” in this? What do you mean by “you”? Someone’s consciousness? Their soul? What part of someone is in the wrong body?

I think the same

Society has always struggled to accept feminine men (in particular)

A significant proportion of people would prefer to believe that these men are 'really' women, 'born in the wrong body' than accept that men can present this way.

Utter bollocks. I wouldn't feed my child anything!. Ever! You absolutely don't know me! I wouldn't want my child to be trans and would discourage those feelings!!
BUT, BUT BUT if my child was feeling suicidal because they thought they'd been born in to the wrong body and were insistent on this after years and years and years (without any encouragement from me) then I would not deny them their feelings. THAT would be stupid and dangerous and abusive and could lead to suicide. I was of course suggest therapy to try to unpick things BUT if that didn't work then I would listen to my child and allow them to feel and live as they feel is true to them. It's called empathy. Perhaps you should try to develop some.....

If someone is going to commit suicide because they are denied to be who they feel they are then I'd say it's bloody real to them!

It's real to them, yes. Doesn't mean it's real period. And when someone believes something that's factually untrue, the right answer is not to affirm that delusion:

As for the 'born in the wrong body' discourse

Why is this only only ever presented as the brain (or 'soul') in opposition to the sex organs? What about all the other elements?

If the sex organs can be 'wrong', can anything else? Lungs? Kidneys? Big toe?

You're talking about a scenario that doesn't happen. NO child goes on for years and years believing they are trans, to the point of feeling suicidal about it 10 years down the line, WITHOUT having been affirmed and encouraged to keep thinking they are trans. You don't need to worry about this happening.

Now I know you're trolling. 🤪

I would like to explore these ^ questions further too, @EvieBB

Also: where is the "right" body? Where does that go?
How is the decision between right and wrong made?
How does the right/wrong process actually happen and at what stage of life? At conception? At birth?

I've always wondered about these things and I'm glad you're here to answer these questions.

I was of course suggest therapy to try to unpick things
@EvieBB if you suggested that you would be accused of being a bigot because you weren't immediately rushing to affirm the person's belief.

That's how it goes. I don't think you know all that much about this topic. Many of us began where you are, wanting to be kind, tolerant and accepting. We became aware of safeguarding issues, of vulnerable teenagers getting caught up in a group where they finally found friends and who drank the KoolAid to stay with them, of the undermining of women's sports, if the sexist BS that underlies all of this.

If your child is suicidal because they feel they are in the 'wrong body' it is because someone (or wider society) has taught them that people with certain types of bodies should feel/behave/act in certain ways.

And that is absolutely tragic

Jesus. The article literally says that trans people in sport is something that can be debated without personal abuse...and you're personally abusive to her.

To a child.

I've posted on here a lot about the very real, very sexualised abuse trans children suffer, especially at school, because of adults indulging in online dehumanisation and hate speech. It is destroying young lives.

'Coddle his delusions' is hate speech, yeah. It's ignorant transphobia.

Just say you're angry this article humanised her, and you're afraid of that.

He's a boy

It humanised his sister who was robbed of her rightful win.

Saying that a boy is a boy is not in any way abusive, quite the contrary.

Coddle his delusions' is hate speech, yeah. It's ignorant transphobia.

Yeah, we get it, anything other than fully affirming his beliefs is “transphobia” 🙄 change the record, it’s boring. You can’t debate anything without screaming “transphobia” so you’re not one to complain about lack of “debate”.

Amazing comeback, well done.

Afraid of your complicity in harming trans children being called out huh.

The “race is just melanin” reasoning also seems to imply that if Rachael Dolezal just took melanin in the same way trans people take hormones, then she would, according to their reasoning, become black.

Her sister celebrated the win, because her sister's a decent person who can cope with normal human difference.

You're online being abusive to a child.

I believe 'gerbil' is in the dictionary too, but that doesn't make us gerbils.

Please explain how we, personally, are harming him. He's never gonna come on this forum, is he? So he's never gonna see these words. So how can they harm him? The sheer existence of people who think badly about us is not abuse, otherwise we're all being abused and abusive 24/7.

Thanks. Just accurate, that's all. And not afraid of being "called out" (🙄) on anything.

He's a boy. If he had been told in the beginning that he could wear what he wanted, have whatever interests he wanted, but wouldn't change sex no matter what he did, all of this could be avoided.Edited to add, and his sister has been brainwashed to defer to a male.