Guardian: weaponised emotional blackmail from 14yo 'trans' athlete

[teawamutu]

The Guardian's rearguard action on reality continues. Apparently the problem is not the parents and authorities who conspired to lie to this boy, coddle his delusions, disadvantage all girls around him in the service of his own wishful thinking etc etc etc: it's definitely the people who pointed it out:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/17/trans-athlete-no-one-should-face-vicious-attacks

I am prepared to feel a little sorry for the kid, who couldn't have been exposed like this if the useful idiots around him had done their fucking jobs. But the Grauniad can fuck off with the tired 'beee kiiiind' shit as a solution. Been there, binned the t-shirt. We want our shit back.

Please do not bring DSDs into the trans conversation; this is both appropriation and entirely irrelevant. DSDs are purely a physical disorder; people who have DSDs don't have "a body of one sex and a mind of another", so they have nothing to do with the trans conversation.

I strongly believe there ARE cases where your body and brain do not match up.

That is because you have strongly ingrained and inaccurate views of how people in a certain body should feel, think, behave. Instead why not imagine a boy who wants to display behaviours labelled as "feminine" and no-one feeding him the bullshit that he cannot or should not. He can have the sexed body he has and also be himself. What, then, doesn't "match" and why does he need to pretend changing biological sex is a thing?

But that's not what you said, you said "Because skin colour is purely a matter of melanin. Gender is much more complex than that and involves hormones, brain chemistry, brain structure, and the intersection of all those things with psychology".

I'm very keen to read the science behind skin colour just being purely about melanin (seems a bit dismissive of entire cultures and ancestry just quietly), and how this inner gender interacts with "brain chemistry" and structure and stuff.

On the topic of biology, I'm also quite keen to hear what transactivists make of recent research that shows the cellular history that is stored throughout the matralinial line, i.e. where mothers retain some of the cells of their offspring for their entire lives, and also the profound yet barely understood interaction between a baby's growth and the quality and nutrient components of mothers breastmilk over time. And, I can't remember the exact details (not a biologist, just friends with one) but isn't there some circumstance where a woman, maybe following pregnancy, can't donate blood to men because it causes some kind of potentially fatal reaction?

But yeah, he is a girl 'cause of "brain chemistry" and "psychology", sure.

People who claim to be trans make up around 0.01% of the population. You’re not one of them. Females make up 51% of the population. You say you’re female.
As you are not ‘trans’, you’re only going on the say so of 0.01% of the population who are, and ignoring the 51% of the population whom you are part of when it comes to determining what constitutes a trans identity. You know what a female is because you are one. Not because someone has to tell you what one is. It’s your material reality!

Do you realise that what you are saying here would make you a bigot in the eyes of some?
Thats what women at the sharp end of this 'debate' are having to endure.

I very much appreciate @DumpyVictoria using the forms 'transgirl' and 'transwoman'. Much less confusing and ambiguous than the two-word version.

If that boy was encouraged in this nonsense since early childhood I feel a bit sorry for him, but he's now of an age where rebelling against parental control is normal so its time for him to grow up. Religious fundamentalist households are always hard on their children, but survivable.

And I'm much much more sorry for his sister, how horrible to have to grow up in a household where she had to accept constant lies.

Thankfully my two DDs are girly girls and love being girls and feel like girls etc.

People say this, & also about Shiloh Jolie-Pitt eventually becoming very feminine, but I think that makes it even more important to reinforce that the ‘non-girly girls’ who live in trousers, have short hair & like sport & DIY are just as much girls as the ones into long hair, makeup & dresses. Shiloh would still be just as much a girl if she’d kept wearing suits.

My cat identifies as an elephant.

Except it isn't something that is real. It's still a delusion you should not affirm without pointing out sex. Because sex still matters no matter how much you try to deny it doesn't. Cos biology.

This.

She's never front and center. It will have always been about her brother. Even this race illustrates the point perfectly. She was denied the praise and reward she had EARNED.

One male declaring he's trans can harm the privacy, dignity, wellbeing, opportunity, access to services and mental health of thousands of women he may potentially come across during the course of his life.

It doesn't matter if there are 'only a few' - it's about the scale of impact.

I strongly believe there ARE cases where your body and brain do not match up.

Congratulations. You are sexist. And don't recognise that if someone feels like this, it's not for other people to enable. It's not their job to fix. They need therapy and to understand that their brain is just misfiring because you can not change sex no matter how much you want to and no matter what lengths you go to to modify your body.

This is not the burden of women to bare.

This is the most shocking point of the whole thing to me.

Imagine doing this to your daughter?

How much would you have to value boys above girls to behave like this to your own child?

These parents are seriously messed up.

😂😂
I think, from what I have read, that all bar a minuscule minority of those with a penis are biologically and genetically male (I seem to remember that there is one DSD where the genetics are female but the appearance is male). DSDs have nothing to do with trans.

You can't treat the 'sisters' as equal as one is always the 'special' girl.

When I was a child, I was a tomboy. I followed dad around 'helping' with DIY, I played football /cricket with the boys, I wore denim dungarees as my choice of clothes. Today, some people would be rushing to affirm my 'gender identity'. But, I'm female, I've never wanted to be anything else. I wonder how much of this, is the result of parenting, and not allowing boys to be effeminate. Remember what the Jesuit said.

Okay, you're having us on.

That's utter bollocks. I would never suggest anything to anyone.
Would someone become gay because someone else suggested it,? You are who you are
What a load of absolute tosh

Why bring so much complete crap down on their own heads if not genuine?

• Because they are delusional, whether it's self-induced, or induced by parents/society.
• Because they have something wrong with the connection between their body and brain, like I do. My brain doesn't see my body as it is. Please note that this doesn't in any way change the reality of my body.
• Because they like being Speshul: "Look at me, I'm different, and I'm oppressed because of this difference!"
• And so on.

Men who want to hurt women have ways to do so that are far easier for them, sadly for us.

So? Why would they stop looking for new ways?

Trans people really do have it too easy in society don't they, I bet all the bullying isn't even that bad.

If you are gay you are gay. If you are trans you are still the sex you were born. The end.

Do you understand that when trans identifying boys and men tell us they are girls and women like us because they believe they think or feel like us, telling us who we are is exactly what they are doing?

How do you know it's not real?
If someone is going to commit suicide because they are denied to be who they feel they are then I'd say it's bloody real to them!
You don't know everything about how these things work. You're not God. None of us are

Yeah but the "witches" didn't think they were witches!

Their belief is real. It's not actual reality.

People die, and indeed murder, for their beliefs all the time. It's hardly new.

A male person's rights to nelieve he is female stops at the outside of his skull.

His sexist beliefs may be very real to him but he doesn't get to impose those beliefs onto me and my life, and that includes my right to single sex spaces or my right to be seen as not sharing his womanny type of mind.

Absolutely!