Guardian: weaponised emotional blackmail from 14yo 'trans' athlete

[teawamutu]

The Guardian's rearguard action on reality continues. Apparently the problem is not the parents and authorities who conspired to lie to this boy, coddle his delusions, disadvantage all girls around him in the service of his own wishful thinking etc etc etc: it's definitely the people who pointed it out:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/17/trans-athlete-no-one-should-face-vicious-attacks

I am prepared to feel a little sorry for the kid, who couldn't have been exposed like this if the useful idiots around him had done their fucking jobs. But the Grauniad can fuck off with the tired 'beee kiiiind' shit as a solution. Been there, binned the t-shirt. We want our shit back.

Great post:)
Yes, absolutely agree.
Of course, its vital to explore all possible narratives to ensure that the correct conclusion is reached :)

Did you really just say that? 🤣🤣🤣

Oh, so you're an evolutionary biologist then? Please direct me to one of your most recent publications?

Transgirls and transwomen do exist, and they just want to be left alone to live in their preferred gender in peace, same as us ciswomen.

But in return, they must let women and girls alone too, which is what this one didn't do, by stealing a girl's spot on the race and a girl's victory. If you want peace, you must give peace too.

What does ‘feeling like a woman’ mean?

A certain poster sounds like a King-size Troll, I think you've all been had.

Let’s not use euphemisms here. He’s saving up for silicone implants in his chest and removal of his genitals. That will make him an infertile man unable to father children, to have sex (but that’s ok because the cross sex hormones he takes will have stopped any sex drive he may have had), and give him a lifelong wound in his perineum. None of the above will make him female. It will, however, make him a eunuch.

I'm one of those people. My body is female, but for whatever reason, my brain sees it as male.

Thing is: my body is still female. Whatever my brain thinks, doesn't change that reality. My brain abberrantly seeing my body with narrow hips doesn't change the fact that my body has large hips. My brain thinking I "should" be male, doesn't change the fact that I'm female.

I'm female. I'll never be male. That is reality. That is the truth. And it's really not the end of the world.

It's people like you who make it hard for all those trans kids to accept who they are, by insisting that if they and everyone else really, truly believed very, very hard, then they could in fact become the other sex. That will never be true, and you should be ashamed of peddling such a hurtful lie, which prevents those kids from ever finding peace and fully accepting who they are, in all their complexity.

And how do they know how a woman feels? They are men.

Ah. The good old, "Only good trans people get to have their trans identity respected." I think it's the third time I've seen this argument put forward in one way or another, in as many days, on this forum. This new breed of TRAs don't seem to realise how deeply transphobic they are.

Hahahaha! Bingo!
You've just blown your whole argument that TWAW out of the water here dear. Did you know that within the female prison estate there are women who have murdered others, who have committed horrific acts of violence? But we don’t say ‘oh, you’ve done this terrible crime so we can’t lock you up with other women’? Do you think they couldn’t possibly be women in view of their crimes?
An acquaintance of mine was attacked by a man in a shop for men cosplaying at being women. He attempted to rape her. He was imprisoned in the female estate then benefitted from surgery at the tax payers expense - breast implants and laser hair removal. He then went on to become a darling of the Labour Party with his photo taken in parliament. Meanwhile, she still suffers panic attacks years after. Will never trust men again. Cannot be intimate with men. Her life is in tatters. All because society panders to men with fetishes.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/3161209.stm

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/7119186.transsexual-locked-killing-lover/

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-5440153/Trans-convict-invited-speak-House-Lords.html

Like Isla Bryson, "Paula" Stanton, Jessica Smith, Ciara Watkins, Alexandra Stewart or Serenity Johnston?

You know... That's kind of terrifying to me. Because I absolutely was a trans kid, who thought I should have been a boy. And the idea that I might have said so at the age of 4, when I don't remember anything about being 4, and then my entire life would have been completely altered because of something I wouldn't even remember saying... Yeah, it's terrifying. The idea that my mother, my family, my teachers, my doctors, everyone, would have encouraged me to believe that I would grow up to have a male body, that I just had to take pills and then undergo massive surgeries, and I would, one day, finally, have a male body, a male life, just like other boys... It's absolutely terrifying to me.

And then! Then to slowly realise, as I grew up and went through those steps, that people had LIED to me, and that I would in fact NEVER have a male body, that I would NEVER have a functioning penis, that I would NEVER be able to become a biological father... Ugh! That part is pure nightmare fuel. Realising that everyone LIED to me, my loved ones, my trusted ones, and that they supposedly did it out of LOVE, so I can't even express how fucking betrayed and HURT I am in the end...

Wow. I had a truly shitty childhood. I often tell myself that, "It could have been worse still!" But the idea that it could have been THAT worse, just because of something I might have said at the age of FOUR, chills me to the bones.

Why? I strongly believe there ARE cases where your body and brain do not match up. Even historical texts show that - most notably Indian texts.
Why is it misogynistic for you body and brain to not be aligned? What an odd thing to say. It's just a fact. It's physiology. All sorts of "mistakes" can happen when the embryo is forming.

I went to school with a 'girl' who was intersex .....she literally had a cross between a penis and a clitoris. Shit happens. Rarely of course. But it happens. You could clearly see she was neither a boy or a girl but chose to wear a skirt and identify as female (and had a female partner after leaving school). I knew this because I was friends with her brother.
FWIW I still strongly believe in safe spaces for women and do not think that biological males should be able to compete alongside women

😂 BUT it's a fair point!....and humane

Yeah of course that would be crazy! If my 4 yr old said such a thing I would absolutely presume it was just a phase or just a child being a child who didn't yet know themselves.....I would certainly not encourage anything ... BUT if ten years down they were still insisting they had been born in the wrong body and felt suicidal as as result I think I'd have to listen to them....

You don't have to be a scientist to have empathy believe that some kids feel suicidal because they truly feel their bodies and brains don't align 🙄

DumpyVictoria · Yesterday 20:14

You hate being referred to as a ciswoman, well, that's how transgirls and transwomen must feel when they're referred to as men.

Cis, in this case, is a confected term, coined by activists, with no meaning in the real world; it's irrelevant and unnecessary.

Trans "girls" and "women" are boys and men, it's accurate and true to describe them thusly. Nobody is required to lie and pretend that TIMs are female, fortunately.

The only reason they feel they their 'bodies and brain don't align' is because people like you have fed them that.

Its natural to feel uncomfortable with aspects of your own body. Telling children that that's because they were born 'wrong' is stupid and dangerous.

'History' also thought that some people were witches, were in league with the devil and could do magic. Now we know that doesn't happen. BTW 3rd sexes in India were actually effeminate men who were allowed to wear female clothing and prostitute themselves. It wasn't done due to concern, it was making use of them, in reality they were despised.

Edited to say intersex isn't used as a term. It's DSD.

What is a 'gendered brain'?

How did this differently 'gendered brain' finc itself in the 'wrong body'?

Where is the right body?

Yeah. Except that's not what happens, is it? That's not what happened in this case, and it's not what happens in the case of all those kids who "discover" it at a very young age, and are encouraged, and taken to a gender clinic at the age of 8 or something. My nightmare is what happens to these kids, so it's no wonder they become suicidal later on.

Better a live 'trans' child than a dead child, right. 🤯

Wow, you're very confused. Do you think race does not intersect with psychology? Do you think race and skin colour are the same thing? Why are you reducing race to "melanin" for the sake of your argument? It is far more complex than that. Rachel Dolezal did not pretend to have darker skin than she does. She pretended to be a black woman. Race is a construct, like gender.
Skin colour is a biological fact, like sex.