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Dozens of men discuss ignoring single sex space rules

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/06/2026 10:05

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1u1webq/is_anyone_here_actually_going_to_follow_the/

as mentioned in other threads, I really am concerned about compliance. I know it will never be 100% but am concerned about what blatant non compliance may lead to

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 13:25

DiaAssolellat · Yesterday 12:49

Undies 🤮 Who says this?

Children.

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TheHateUGive · Yesterday 13:30

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 13:24

I am but only based on your patter of communication.

Also, takes one to know one. :D

I'm a Black woman. White people do often accuse us of being masculine but mainly because we don't agree with white women and look different to them.

Right now youre just a white man committing misogynoir in your feeble attempt to be some sort of feminist.

I wonder how many women in here would post a pic of themselves right now to show that they are the woman they profess to be.

Dozens of men discuss ignoring single sex space rules
SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 13:30

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 12:48

What about trans women in the general population? Are they more likely to be violent criminals?

Or is it just in prison where the person may have transitioned after they were imprisoned and so were never female presenting in public?

This is the standard “those ones don’t count” argument.

If someone wants self-identification to be the basis for access to female spaces, they cannot then dismiss every inconvenient male offender as not really trans, or as someone who only identified after conviction. That is just moving the definition when the data becomes uncomfortable.

Also, even if some males do identify after imprisonment, that is not a reason to ignore the risk. It is the point. If policy says a male person’s declared identity can override sex-based boundaries, then institutions have to deal with male offenders who declare that identity. Women and girls are not protected by pretending only the nice, harmless, socially acceptable ones count.

As for the general population, we do not have perfect UK-wide data. But we do have two relevant points.

First, sex offending and serious violence are overwhelmingly male-pattern behaviours. That risk does not disappear because a male person changes name, clothes, pronouns or legal paperwork.

Second, the best-known population register evidence does not show male-to-female transitioners becoming female-pattern in criminality. The Swedish study found they retained a male pattern for crime and violent crime compared with female controls.

Safeguarding is not based on “is this person a real trans person?” It is based on sex, risk, privacy and female people being allowed to say no.

( https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0016885 )

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 13:31

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 13:30

I'm a Black woman. White people do often accuse us of being masculine but mainly because we don't agree with white women and look different to them.

Right now youre just a white man committing misogynoir in your feeble attempt to be some sort of feminist.

I wonder how many women in here would post a pic of themselves right now to show that they are the woman they profess to be.

Anyone else seeing a picture of a white, possibly dude or is it just me?

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TheHateUGive · Yesterday 13:31

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 13:30

This is the standard “those ones don’t count” argument.

If someone wants self-identification to be the basis for access to female spaces, they cannot then dismiss every inconvenient male offender as not really trans, or as someone who only identified after conviction. That is just moving the definition when the data becomes uncomfortable.

Also, even if some males do identify after imprisonment, that is not a reason to ignore the risk. It is the point. If policy says a male person’s declared identity can override sex-based boundaries, then institutions have to deal with male offenders who declare that identity. Women and girls are not protected by pretending only the nice, harmless, socially acceptable ones count.

As for the general population, we do not have perfect UK-wide data. But we do have two relevant points.

First, sex offending and serious violence are overwhelmingly male-pattern behaviours. That risk does not disappear because a male person changes name, clothes, pronouns or legal paperwork.

Second, the best-known population register evidence does not show male-to-female transitioners becoming female-pattern in criminality. The Swedish study found they retained a male pattern for crime and violent crime compared with female controls.

Safeguarding is not based on “is this person a real trans person?” It is based on sex, risk, privacy and female people being allowed to say no.

( https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0016885 )

I am asking if the research shows that trans women in the general population are more likely to be violent offenders. Is the answer yes or no?

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 13:32

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 13:31

I am asking if the research shows that trans women in the general population are more likely to be violent offenders. Is the answer yes or no?

And this is called changing the goal posts. Respond to what I've posted.

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TheHateUGive · Yesterday 13:32

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 13:31

Anyone else seeing a picture of a white, possibly dude or is it just me?

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Just you. I have F cup breasts and I am pregnant. If you can't see that, there is something very wrong with you and you definitely shouldn't be trying to "sex" anyone who uses the loo

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 13:34

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 13:32

And this is called changing the goal posts. Respond to what I've posted.

Ive not changed any goalposts. I am not in prison. I am in the general population. Therefore, the research that concerns me is in reference to the general population. So again, are trans women in the general population more likely to be violent offenders. Yes or no?

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 13:34

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 13:32

Just you. I have F cup breasts and I am pregnant. If you can't see that, there is something very wrong with you and you definitely shouldn't be trying to "sex" anyone who uses the loo

Weirdly we don't do that from hunched over cropped pictures of someone who is white AF and just said they were black. Maybe you identify as black. That didn't go well for that woman did it?

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GrimDamnFanjo · Yesterday 13:35

Can’t see one comment on that thread that acknowledges how many women feel about men in our spaces. Lots of whining about themselves. I’ve lived in communities where not having single sex spaces means some women would not be able to leave their own homes. The majority of transwomen never think of anyone but themselves.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 13:35

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 13:34

Ive not changed any goalposts. I am not in prison. I am in the general population. Therefore, the research that concerns me is in reference to the general population. So again, are trans women in the general population more likely to be violent offenders. Yes or no?

you are changing the goal posts.

And more likely than what?

Men? maybe. definitely not less.

Women - fuck no.

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TheHateUGive · Yesterday 13:36

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 13:34

Weirdly we don't do that from hunched over cropped pictures of someone who is white AF and just said they were black. Maybe you identify as black. That didn't go well for that woman did it?

I'm white AF because I don't have the same complexion as Lenny Henry? I get that some white women now "tan" as dark as me but I'm Black. I think you're exposing the tinyness of your world here, Jonathan.

GrimDamnFanjo · Yesterday 13:36

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 13:34

Ive not changed any goalposts. I am not in prison. I am in the general population. Therefore, the research that concerns me is in reference to the general population. So again, are trans women in the general population more likely to be violent offenders. Yes or no?

Yes. They are men. Men are more likely to be violent offenders HTH.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 13:36

Never play chess with a pigeon. Apologies everyone for the notifications around the last 10 posts....

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TheHateUGive · Yesterday 13:37

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 13:35

you are changing the goal posts.

And more likely than what?

Men? maybe. definitely not less.

Women - fuck no.

More likely than biological male identifying men. Can you cite the research that you are quoting when you say "maybe, definitely not less"?

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 13:37

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 13:36

Never play chess with a pigeon. Apologies everyone for the notifications around the last 10 posts....

Never play feminism with white men.

Alucard55 · Yesterday 13:38

KG74 · 10/06/2026 10:08

The guidance is pretty much null and void by the lack of a way to prove sex bit. Honestly, unless they brought in pants inspections, same sex toilets and changing rooms can't realistically be policed anyway. This was a question a lot of us have asked time and time again - okay, you want single-sex spaces...how do you prove what sex people are? Answer there came none, and so this is the situation we now have.

It says a lot that we can't just expect men to respect both the law and privacy of women and girls.

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 13:38

GrimDamnFanjo · Yesterday 13:36

Yes. They are men. Men are more likely to be violent offenders HTH.

Can you cite the research that shows trans women have similar offending rates to men in the general population?

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 13:38

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 13:37

Never play feminism with white men.

I think we are just two dudes cluttering a female forum, so I shall bid you good day sir.

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selffellatingouroborosofhate · Yesterday 13:38

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 13:31

Anyone else seeing a picture of a white, possibly dude or is it just me?

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I'd need to see the eyebrows.

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 13:40

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 13:38

I think we are just two dudes cluttering a female forum, so I shall bid you good day sir.

Based on the fact that I disagree with the white female majority? Can you break down and explain exactly how women behave so I know how you identify them?

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 13:40

selffellatingouroborosofhate · Yesterday 13:38

I'd need to see the eyebrows.

How weird.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Yesterday 13:41

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 13:38

Can you cite the research that shows trans women have similar offending rates to men in the general population?

Dhejne et al. study.

I’ll even copy and paste a wee bit for you -

‘Drawing on criminal convictions data, the study showed, among other findings, that male-to-female transitioners were likely to retain the same risk of male-pattern criminality both in relation to crime generally, and to violent crime.’

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 13:42

selffellatingouroborosofhate · Yesterday 13:38

I'd need to see the eyebrows.

Here you go. Obviously I know i am a woman so it is interesting to see if your abilities are actually real or not.

Dozens of men discuss ignoring single sex space rules
selffellatingouroborosofhate · Yesterday 13:43

TheHateUGive · Yesterday 13:40

How weird.

Brow ridges are a very clear indicator of sex. Nothing weird about it.

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