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"Dreadful Middle-aged Women" Take a Bow

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Windyoutside · 25/05/2026 15:27

Inspired by this completely sane and not at all unhinged post by Brianna Wu about UK terfs, I just wanted to say a massive thank you to all the "dreadful middle-aged women" who have pushed back on trans ideology and have continued to say "No" to middle-aged men like Brianna/John.

I'm a few years off being officially a middle-aged woman but I hope to be just as dreadful when I get there. You're all an inspiration. 🙂

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FuzzyPuffling · 26/05/2026 17:14

NotAtMyAge · 25/05/2026 16:00

On that thread I pointed out that Dreadful Middle-aged Women eventually become Dreadful Old Women of whom I'm proud to be one. 😁

Me too. Positively frightful...and proud of it.

CompleteGinasaur · 26/05/2026 17:35

Absolutely frightful here too, and about to prove it.. I just googled Mr. Wu (anyone else hearing George Formby?) and looked at as many of the images of him as I could stomach. Apart from a few so heavily filtered (and I think professionally shot/manipulated?) as to be clearly fictional (motorbike, minidress, shades) I don't care how much surgery that man has had, or even if he thinks he passes: no chin, tiny compressed mouth, slightly exophthalmic,small eyes - that's a damn ugly bloke.

FuzzyPuffling · 26/05/2026 17:40

NotAtMyAge · 25/05/2026 18:33

I've just turned 80. You have no idea how dreadful I am. There are no limits... 😁

More power to your dreadful elbows...and happy birthday too!

NotAtMyAge · 26/05/2026 17:55

FuzzyPuffling · 26/05/2026 17:40

More power to your dreadful elbows...and happy birthday too!

Thanks, Fuzzy. Off to London on Friday to celebrate it with the offspring and grandsons.

moto748e · 26/05/2026 17:58

(anyone else hearing George Formby?)

Of course! 😃

GreyskySexRealistsky · 26/05/2026 18:06

moto748e · 26/05/2026 17:58

(anyone else hearing George Formby?)

Of course! 😃

No, the Smiths!

I'm surprised the TRAs haven't claimed Sheila Take A Bow for themselves, it's got a trans-ish line in it!

QuintadosMalvados · 26/05/2026 18:23

If I see a trans woman in a female toilet changing room I will shout till he's out.

And I'll tell you this, 18-year-old me wouldn't have tolerated this either. So Wu-Wu is wrong on that one.

I've always been stubborn.

It is disgusting that trans women have been allowed in female changing rooms.
Keep them out.

No sympathy and zero tolerance.

I'm very grateful that women of great influence have done so much to change things.
And to the brave ones who stood up to this madness, I salute you all.

CompleteGinasaur · 26/05/2026 18:30

GreyskySexRealistsky · 26/05/2026 18:06

No, the Smiths!

I'm surprised the TRAs haven't claimed Sheila Take A Bow for themselves, it's got a trans-ish line in it!

Shhh! Don't give them ideas; they'll obviously nick anything that's not nailed down..

CompleteGinasaur · 26/05/2026 18:36

(Now I come to think of it, didn't the cover have Candy Darling on it?)

RoyalCorgi · 26/05/2026 18:53

I think "dreadful middle-aged woman" is rather tame. After many years on Mumsnet, I've been proud to think of myself as part of a nest of vipers and, more recently, a rights-hoarding dinosaur.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 26/05/2026 18:58

CompleteGinasaur · 26/05/2026 18:36

(Now I come to think of it, didn't the cover have Candy Darling on it?)

You are right! But I bet they've never heard of him.

inkymoose · Yesterday 01:02

viques · 25/05/2026 21:15

But it’s because he is a man that he thinks middle aged is an insult. Inside his male head he is stilla man , and in his male entitled confusion he is just coming into his prime, a silver fox, a Clooney, a Pitt, a Gere, a Redford.

Poor thing , imagine catching sight of yourself in a mirror, thinking you are a sex god but realising you have backed the wrong horse and are actually the thing you profess to despise!

How sad, how terrible for him! Perhaps he is "becoming what he's always hated," and I don't mean looking in the mirror and realising you've aged. What a massive blow to his ego.

Dreadful old woman here. I am in good company amongst you dreadfully marvellous people!

booksnbaking · Yesterday 08:56

DontStopMe · 25/05/2026 16:55

What's the crossover point from dreadful middle-aged woman to dreadful old woman? Just asking for a friend.

Any time you fucking feel like calling it.

Fimofriend · Yesterday 10:23

Julehavehadyourtea · 25/05/2026 15:38

John/Brianna is an American male, about 48-49? with no connection or apparent expertise in the UK, it's politics and social structure. So he's entitled to his middle aged, poorly informed male opinion, and I'm entitled to laugh him off as dreadfully overconfident and I'll informed

Absolutely! It is so typically male to have loud opinions about something you know fuck all about.

BezMills · Yesterday 10:28

Fimofriend · Yesterday 10:23

Absolutely! It is so typically male to have loud opinions about something you know fuck all about.

as a fellow mediocre male in that age range I can over confidently as quite an expert (hah!) say it really is a dreadful habit that seems endemic to our demographic!

KnottyAuty · Yesterday 10:39

I’ll just leave these images of “Dreadful Middle Aged Women” here. We have the benefit of history (unlike them) to know that eventually some of our hero wims will be celebrated in statues and their work seen for the fabulous public service it is. Calling us horrible names is part of the toolbox of keeping us quiet…. But long live the “Dreadful Middle Aged Woman” (and where do I buy the t shirt?!)

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DontStopMe · Yesterday 10:46

Fimofriend · Yesterday 10:23

Absolutely! It is so typically male to have loud opinions about something you know fuck all about.

They even sometimes loudly drone on about the fact that they know nothing about the subject. But still they carry on loudly droning on about it.

BezMills · Yesterday 11:06

DontStopMe · Yesterday 10:46

They even sometimes loudly drone on about the fact that they know nothing about the subject. But still they carry on loudly droning on about it.

shifts uncomfortably in seat, "is it hot in here?"

ZeldaFighter · Yesterday 11:14

I discovered and researched GamerGate as a feminist issue, before I learnt about the harms of gender ideology.

I never discovered that Briannna Wu was a trans-identified male. I'm grateful to them for highlighting the issue for feminists but I am uneasy after learning about their trans status. It's clearly not about feminism as most people in that sphere would know he was originally male. So what is it about?

And isn't this the deception of gender ideology? Whatever discrimination was involved, given that Brianna is male, it was clearly not sex discrimination.

DontStopMe · Yesterday 11:17

BezMills · Yesterday 11:06

shifts uncomfortably in seat, "is it hot in here?"

Nothing personal, BezMills!

BezMills · Yesterday 11:20

DontStopMe · Yesterday 11:17

Nothing personal, BezMills!

nah it's just so funny honestly. Why Are We Like This?

Giggorata · Yesterday 11:32

NotAtMyAge · 25/05/2026 16:00

On that thread I pointed out that Dreadful Middle-aged Women eventually become Dreadful Old Women of whom I'm proud to be one. 😁

Me too! 👍🏻😀

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 12:23

ZeldaFighter · Yesterday 11:14

I discovered and researched GamerGate as a feminist issue, before I learnt about the harms of gender ideology.

I never discovered that Briannna Wu was a trans-identified male. I'm grateful to them for highlighting the issue for feminists but I am uneasy after learning about their trans status. It's clearly not about feminism as most people in that sphere would know he was originally male. So what is it about?

And isn't this the deception of gender ideology? Whatever discrimination was involved, given that Brianna is male, it was clearly not sex discrimination.

I think a certain type of man just likes to attach themselves to these causes.

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