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US to open world’s first children’s ‘detransition clinic’ Texas hospital to offer free services reversing the effects of gender-affirming treatments

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 16/05/2026 10:43

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/05/15/texas-reverse-transgender-treatment-childrens-clinic/

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Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:44

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:43

This is the sex realist 1+1 = 1 theory of sex.

Logic really is not your strong suit is it?

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:45

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:44

Logic really is not your strong suit is it?

It's not my equation.

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:46

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:45

It's not my equation.

I wasn't talking about the equation.

solerolover · 18/05/2026 17:47

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 18/05/2026 17:31

Yes, they seem to love the sounds of their own voices (or reading their own words) more than anything else in the universe.

Anyway, thank you for bringing it back around on topic, for however long that will last!
I am mainly concerned about how the long-term physical issues will be handled (will medical insurance continue to cover their health care needs, etc., for those who need medical insurance), and how will mental health support be catered for. In my experience, transitioning is often presented as the be-all, end-all panacea for every issue (and clearly is not); many of the issues will still remain after detransitioning, so I hope that there will be appropriate and sufficient support for these.

I am mainly concerned about how the long-term physical issues will be handled (will medical insurance continue to cover their health care needs, etc., for those who need medical insurance), and how will mental health support be catered for.

Oh, yeah absolutely. And not to mention the headache regarding the legal side of things too, for instance, having to re-amend official documents and records.

Wearenotborg · 18/05/2026 17:47

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:44

Logic really is not your strong suit is it?

Facts, logic, humour, critical thinking not widely known amongst the TRA. Narcissism however. Just look at DU and IW with their claims to be female. Has no one told them sex is not real so they cant be female 😂😂😂😂

MarieDeGournay · 18/05/2026 17:52

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:21

Sorry.

I don't know much about the modern trans community. There were trans communities in the 1980s but they probably weren't connected, at least outside the connections between LGB communities back then.

Yes, trans people were a part of lesbian and gay communities in the 1980s.

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Re-writing history to make it look like trans people have 'always been there' is unacceptable.

An egregious example was the 2023 photoshopping onto a photo of the first open lesbian and gay demonstration in Ireland in 1983, of a pro-trans slogan.
The trans activists did not even respect the fact that the demonstration was in response to the murder of a gay man - anything was fair game to claim trans people were a part of lesbian and gay communities in the 1980s.

False narratives 'transing' the Stonewall Riots in NYC in 1969 are another example of this re-writing of lesbian and gay history.

US to open world’s first children’s ‘detransition clinic’ Texas hospital to offer free services reversing the effects of gender-affirming treatments
US to open world’s first children’s ‘detransition clinic’ Texas hospital to offer free services reversing the effects of gender-affirming treatments
GreyskySexRealistsky · 18/05/2026 17:57

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:36

I can't remember if I asked you if you were straight the last time we had this discussion.

If you weren't straight, you would know that gay men absolutely did not treat trans women as men. We were forbidden from entering the 'men only' spaces like back rooms, strip bars and bath houses.

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Who is this "we" all of a sudden?

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 18/05/2026 17:59

solerolover · 18/05/2026 17:47

I am mainly concerned about how the long-term physical issues will be handled (will medical insurance continue to cover their health care needs, etc., for those who need medical insurance), and how will mental health support be catered for.

Oh, yeah absolutely. And not to mention the headache regarding the legal side of things too, for instance, having to re-amend official documents and records.

Yes, and, especially in the US, having to try to manage your legal status state-to-state, as states have different laws. I worry about how limiting this is for my family member, restricting job opportunities, etc., if one state accepts detransitioning, but another doesn't (or, for example, restricts access to healthcare or even employment depending on how one "legally identifies").

There's so much that correlates with political boundaries. It's hard enough for those who have transitioned, and I wonder how difficult it will be for those who detransition. I would like more of these clinics to be established, and link up with administrative support as well. Perhaps they will, but I think this one in Texas is focused on the healthcare side of things.

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 18:00

MarieDeGournay · 18/05/2026 17:52

Re-writing history to make it look like trans people have 'always been there' is unacceptable.

An egregious example was the 2023 photoshopping onto a photo of the first open lesbian and gay demonstration in Ireland in 1983, of a pro-trans slogan.
The trans activists did not even respect the fact that the demonstration was in response to the murder of a gay man - anything was fair game to claim trans people were a part of lesbian and gay communities in the 1980s.

False narratives 'transing' the Stonewall Riots in NYC in 1969 are another example of this re-writing of lesbian and gay history.

Who is rewriting history. I lived my life. I know where I was in the 1980s. I've met trans women who followed a similar transition path to mine in the 1970s and 1960s.

You can drop your indignation and claims that trans people are rewriting history on top of my post all you wish, but it doesn't rewrite my experience.

KnottyAuty · 18/05/2026 18:01

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:34

Our culture, as it pertains to sex was and is sex essentialist. This doesn't change the fact that no one knows the form of anyone else's chromosomes or the gametes they are assumed to produce.

"gender ideology" didn't exist until it was coined by the Catholic church. It seems a convenient straw man to attack rather than actual people.

In most cases it’s entirely possible to hazard a guess at someone’s likely gametes. And be 100% sure for those of us with kids. You’re fooling yourself if you think it’s mostly not obvious - although as you seem to be abnormally short for a male I’ll need to caveat that

is “sex realist” also a straw man?

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 18:03

GreyskySexRealistsky · 18/05/2026 17:57

Who is this "we" all of a sudden?

'we' is FWR. This is not the first time all of this has been discussed on this website. It all seems part of the goal to discourage participation of outsiders by diverting focus to passive-aggressive meta-discussions.

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 18:04

KnottyAuty · 18/05/2026 18:01

In most cases it’s entirely possible to hazard a guess at someone’s likely gametes. And be 100% sure for those of us with kids. You’re fooling yourself if you think it’s mostly not obvious - although as you seem to be abnormally short for a male I’ll need to caveat that

is “sex realist” also a straw man?

Im guessing he didnt start bleeding from his genitals during an English lesson and if he did, the teacher would have called an ambulance.

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 18:08

KnottyAuty · 18/05/2026 18:01

In most cases it’s entirely possible to hazard a guess at someone’s likely gametes. And be 100% sure for those of us with kids. You’re fooling yourself if you think it’s mostly not obvious - although as you seem to be abnormally short for a male I’ll need to caveat that

is “sex realist” also a straw man?

Oh, it is absolutely mostly obvious what sex people are. I've never said it isn't.

I believe people are at best able to guess someone's sex 99.5% (for some value of not always) of the time and accurate possession/production of functional gametes 90-95% (for some value of reproductive ability is not always present) of the time.

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 18:16

is “sex realist” also a straw man?

I suppose it is as much as 'Trans Identified-' is.

spannasaurus · 18/05/2026 18:20

Does anyone on here understand the US medical insurance system?

It appears that many children are included under their parents insurance cover until 25/26 and I often see people online trying to get surgery whilst still on their parents cover.

If someone had surgery at say 25 using their parents cover and then wish to detransition (or have complications) when they are no longer on the parents insurance how easy would it be for them to get medical insurance which covers the detransition (or complications )

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 18:25

spannasaurus · 18/05/2026 18:20

Does anyone on here understand the US medical insurance system?

It appears that many children are included under their parents insurance cover until 25/26 and I often see people online trying to get surgery whilst still on their parents cover.

If someone had surgery at say 25 using their parents cover and then wish to detransition (or have complications) when they are no longer on the parents insurance how easy would it be for them to get medical insurance which covers the detransition (or complications )

If they have aged out of their parents' insurance, they would need to find new coverage either from the state or via employment/student programs.

New insurance would be required for 'detransition' healthcare, which is effectively the same as transition healthcare but with different psychological support requirements maybe, depending on the 'cause' of detransition.

I don't know/remember if there is any inherent obligation to cure complications under original insurance, but morally I would hope there to be.

eta: also, not all detransitioners wish to return to their original 'sex.' Some non-binary people stop transition healthcare at some point where they feel their bodies reflect a state that is comfortable to them.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 18/05/2026 18:28

spannasaurus · 18/05/2026 18:20

Does anyone on here understand the US medical insurance system?

It appears that many children are included under their parents insurance cover until 25/26 and I often see people online trying to get surgery whilst still on their parents cover.

If someone had surgery at say 25 using their parents cover and then wish to detransition (or have complications) when they are no longer on the parents insurance how easy would it be for them to get medical insurance which covers the detransition (or complications )

The ease of getting insurance depends on many things: yes, your age is one of them.. There are ways around turning 26 and having to come off your parents' policy, but this again varies by policy, provider, in-service or out-of-service, and state by state.. It's a minefield.

I'm not sure most providers have even scratched the surface of what they would or would not include, or even if they would accept someone with long-term health issues due to transitioning and then detransitioning. Supposedly, Obama Care, as it used to be called, requires states to provide health insurance even if you have pre-existing conditions, but I doubt they've even gotten that far with detransitioners. It will probably be hashed out in court once the detransitioners all hit 26.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 18/05/2026 18:32

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 18:03

'we' is FWR. This is not the first time all of this has been discussed on this website. It all seems part of the goal to discourage participation of outsiders by diverting focus to passive-aggressive meta-discussions.

You said: "We were forbidden from entering the 'men only' spaces like back rooms, strip bars and bath houses."

I assumed you meant trans women, by "we".

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 18/05/2026 18:34

spannasaurus · 18/05/2026 18:20

Does anyone on here understand the US medical insurance system?

It appears that many children are included under their parents insurance cover until 25/26 and I often see people online trying to get surgery whilst still on their parents cover.

If someone had surgery at say 25 using their parents cover and then wish to detransition (or have complications) when they are no longer on the parents insurance how easy would it be for them to get medical insurance which covers the detransition (or complications )

Just to add: no one really ever understands the US healthcare system. All you need to know is that you will be expected to be employed the rest of your life (so you can be on your employer's insurance plan), or pay literally your arm and your leg for a private policy which may or may not pay for what you need when you need it. And you still have to pay your co-pays and for your prescriptions.

Depending on your plan.

Which no one will ever explain properly.

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 18:35

GreyskySexRealistsky · 18/05/2026 18:32

You said: "We were forbidden from entering the 'men only' spaces like back rooms, strip bars and bath houses."

I assumed you meant trans women, by "we".

Yes, in that context 'we' was the trans women I knew who were in the very tiny trans community on the periphery of the gay community in the city I transitioned.

And when I say 'trans community' I am talking about the trans women I saw in the bars week after week and the gay and lesbian youth group at the community centre.

DramaAndBullshit · 18/05/2026 18:42

FireBucket · 16/05/2026 11:49

Of note is that this has been court ordered by an ideologically driven Trumpist attorney general, not instituted due to any evidence of need - check back in a few years to see how many patients this clinic has actually seen.

Even a broken clock tells the right time twice a day. I don’t agree with the MAGA principles, but I know humans can’t change sex and young ‘trans’ people need mental health help and support not surgery and drugs.

“Threads like this are so revealing. If you were genuinely concerned about the physical impact of transition, you think you'd be pleased to discover the risks are not as terrible as you imagined. But instead you want to cling to that idea of risk, because none of this is actually about compassion or concern, it's about your ideological opposition to the existence of trans people, and all you actually want is for the evidence to tell you what you already believe.”

The physical impact of removing healthy organs and emotional impact of not getting the right mental health support for dysphoria is enough damage.

BonfireLady · 18/05/2026 18:45

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:11

the 'real' in realism doesn't exist. We are a social mammal, with art and culture (for good and bad). Sex has been manifested outside of the body across millennia.

Sex has been manifested outside of the body across millennia.

Do you mean behaviours and "dress codes" that we stereotypically associate with people's sex?

If so, I agree. These have changed over time and vary between cultures around the world.

Obviously lots of people don't follow them, but they still exist as stereotypes.

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 18:46

BonfireLady · 18/05/2026 18:45

Sex has been manifested outside of the body across millennia.

Do you mean behaviours and "dress codes" that we stereotypically associate with people's sex?

If so, I agree. These have changed over time and vary between cultures around the world.

Obviously lots of people don't follow them, but they still exist as stereotypes.

I'm talking about the perception of sex. Different than clothing stereotypes, though they are significant.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 18/05/2026 18:47

DramaAndBullshit · 18/05/2026 18:42

Even a broken clock tells the right time twice a day. I don’t agree with the MAGA principles, but I know humans can’t change sex and young ‘trans’ people need mental health help and support not surgery and drugs.

“Threads like this are so revealing. If you were genuinely concerned about the physical impact of transition, you think you'd be pleased to discover the risks are not as terrible as you imagined. But instead you want to cling to that idea of risk, because none of this is actually about compassion or concern, it's about your ideological opposition to the existence of trans people, and all you actually want is for the evidence to tell you what you already believe.”

The physical impact of removing healthy organs and emotional impact of not getting the right mental health support for dysphoria is enough damage.

The physical impact of removing healthy organs and emotional impact of not getting the right mental health support for dysphoria is enough damage.

Yes, THIS. All day.

BonfireLady · 18/05/2026 18:47

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 18:46

I'm talking about the perception of sex. Different than clothing stereotypes, though they are significant.

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What is a perception of someone's sex, if it's not related to clothing (or other) stereotypes?