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US to open world’s first children’s ‘detransition clinic’ Texas hospital to offer free services reversing the effects of gender-affirming treatments

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 16/05/2026 10:43

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/05/15/texas-reverse-transgender-treatment-childrens-clinic/

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/05/15/texas-reverse-transgender-treatment-childrens-clinic

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polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 16:06

borntobequiet · 16/05/2026 22:09

We seem to have forgotten about the detransitioners.

Of course, there’s a reason why they are a subject carefully avoided by some. They give the lie to the fantasy construct that is genderism.

Detransitioners have existed as long as there have been people transitioning. I knew two, slightly older than me, when I was transitioning.

They're not only young though, they can be any age and at any stage during or post transition (Philosophically, I don't know if someone can be through and done transition if they detransition? Maybe?)

Detransitioners were rare because transitioning was rare. There were a lot of barriers in place to realistically prepare someone to live a visibly trans life in a homophobic world.

Before the internet, detransitioners were a tale of caution. Trans people early in transition paid a lot of attention to them because they were messengers from the cruel future. Of being disowned and mocked by family. Of job loss and unemployability. Of physical violence. There was respect of choices and mutual acknowledgement of difficult decisions made.

The major difference now vs then is some detransitioners have allowed their experience to be weaponised against trans people. Trans people have a right to maintain strong feelings about all people participating in the harm of trans people, including detransitioners.

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 16:32

And yes, detransitioners have a right to have strong feelings about what they have experienced and the providers of medical care they feel was misapplied. But their feelings and experiences don't invalidate the feelings and experiences of people who positively respond to trans healthcare and live productive happy lives post-transition.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 18/05/2026 16:39

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 16:06

Detransitioners have existed as long as there have been people transitioning. I knew two, slightly older than me, when I was transitioning.

They're not only young though, they can be any age and at any stage during or post transition (Philosophically, I don't know if someone can be through and done transition if they detransition? Maybe?)

Detransitioners were rare because transitioning was rare. There were a lot of barriers in place to realistically prepare someone to live a visibly trans life in a homophobic world.

Before the internet, detransitioners were a tale of caution. Trans people early in transition paid a lot of attention to them because they were messengers from the cruel future. Of being disowned and mocked by family. Of job loss and unemployability. Of physical violence. There was respect of choices and mutual acknowledgement of difficult decisions made.

The major difference now vs then is some detransitioners have allowed their experience to be weaponised against trans people. Trans people have a right to maintain strong feelings about all people participating in the harm of trans people, including detransitioners.

Before the internet - none of this crap existed.

It's entirely a social contagion - one that we have, belatedly, stopped spreading. Good news all round

The more stories of detransition, post mutilation misery, infertility etc we can share to young impressionable people the better

it's over

you lost.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 18/05/2026 16:41

Beowulfa · 18/05/2026 15:51

Away from the boringly predictable merailing, it's great that psychologically and physically damaged young people finally have some specialist attention. Hopefully decent records will be kept and surgical outcomes improved.

Absolutely. good news.

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polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 16:48

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 18/05/2026 16:39

Before the internet - none of this crap existed.

It's entirely a social contagion - one that we have, belatedly, stopped spreading. Good news all round

The more stories of detransition, post mutilation misery, infertility etc we can share to young impressionable people the better

it's over

you lost.

Ignoring the personal attack, sex realist beliefs are not real.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 18/05/2026 16:51

sex realist beliefs are not real

😂
love it

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 16:53

The more stories of detransition, post mutilation misery, infertility etc we can share to young impressionable people the better

Sex realists genuinely celebrate the opportunity to wallow in other people's grief and anger.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 18/05/2026 16:57

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 16:53

The more stories of detransition, post mutilation misery, infertility etc we can share to young impressionable people the better

Sex realists genuinely celebrate the opportunity to wallow in other people's grief and anger.

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translates as: "I am entitled to make huge and false generalisations about a group of people I don't like, but I shall get offended if they make huge and false generalisations about trans people"

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 16:58

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 16:48

Ignoring the personal attack, sex realist beliefs are not real.

If they aren't real why do even you call them 'sex realist'?

The clue is in the word after 'sex' in 'sex realist'.

And you say it as if it is a slur.

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:00

GreyskySexRealistsky · 18/05/2026 16:57

translates as: "I am entitled to make huge and false generalisations about a group of people I don't like, but I shall get offended if they make huge and false generalisations about trans people"

Fair, maybe. There are a lot of 'huge and false' uncritically held beliefs here on FWR.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 18/05/2026 17:01

Yes, and most of us can see what direction they're coming from

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:02

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 16:58

If they aren't real why do even you call them 'sex realist'?

The clue is in the word after 'sex' in 'sex realist'.

And you say it as if it is a slur.

Borrowing from the google definition of 'race realist': A term used by proponents to describe the belief that human sexes are solely distinct biological categories, rather than social constructs, and that these differences correspond to inherent disparities in traits.

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:07

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:02

Borrowing from the google definition of 'race realist': A term used by proponents to describe the belief that human sexes are solely distinct biological categories, rather than social constructs, and that these differences correspond to inherent disparities in traits.

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A term used by proponents to describe the belief that human sexes are solely distinct biological categories, rather than social constructs, and that these differences correspond to inherent disparities

I know where you got it from, but bless you for trying.

GenderlessVoid · 18/05/2026 17:09

I knew a few transwomen in the early 1980s. I don't think any of them used the internet. Very few people did back then.

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:11

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:07

A term used by proponents to describe the belief that human sexes are solely distinct biological categories, rather than social constructs, and that these differences correspond to inherent disparities

I know where you got it from, but bless you for trying.

the 'real' in realism doesn't exist. We are a social mammal, with art and culture (for good and bad). Sex has been manifested outside of the body across millennia.

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:11

GenderlessVoid · 18/05/2026 17:09

I knew a few transwomen in the early 1980s. I don't think any of them used the internet. Very few people did back then.

There wasn't an Internet in the 80s.

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:12

GenderlessVoid · 18/05/2026 17:09

I knew a few transwomen in the early 1980s. I don't think any of them used the internet. Very few people did back then.

I don't understand your response. What did the internet in 1980 have to do with what I wrote? I don't think the modern trans community was formed until the 00s, with the internet as a major contributing factor.

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:12

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:11

the 'real' in realism doesn't exist. We are a social mammal, with art and culture (for good and bad). Sex has been manifested outside of the body across millennia.

You are just putting random words together now. Maybe go bake a cake or something?

GenderlessVoid · 18/05/2026 17:16

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:11

There wasn't an Internet in the 80s.

There was ARPANET and I think another one or two others, used by the military, academics, and some computer scientists.

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:18

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:12

You are just putting random words together now. Maybe go bake a cake or something?

It's difficult to understand colours when all you believe in is black and white.

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:19

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:18

It's difficult to understand colours when all you believe in is black and white.

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In terms of sex, there are two of them.

GenderlessVoid · 18/05/2026 17:20

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:12

I don't understand your response. What did the internet in 1980 have to do with what I wrote? I don't think the modern trans community was formed until the 00s, with the internet as a major contributing factor.

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I wasn't replying to you. Someone above said that trans didn't exist before the internet because it's all social contaigen.

I don't know much about the modern trans community. There were trans communities in the 1980s but they probably weren't connected, at least outside the connections between LGB communities back then.

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:21

GenderlessVoid · 18/05/2026 17:20

I wasn't replying to you. Someone above said that trans didn't exist before the internet because it's all social contaigen.

I don't know much about the modern trans community. There were trans communities in the 1980s but they probably weren't connected, at least outside the connections between LGB communities back then.

Sorry.

I don't know much about the modern trans community. There were trans communities in the 1980s but they probably weren't connected, at least outside the connections between LGB communities back then.

Yes, trans people were a part of lesbian and gay communities in the 1980s.

solerolover · 18/05/2026 17:22

Janice Raymond was bang on the money when she said that "...masculine behavior is notably obtrusive."

Anyway, back to the actual issue at hand, it's fantastic to hear that people who choose to detransition will actually have somewhere to turn. I've listened to and read many testimonies from detrans people, and they often express how little support there is for them on multiple levels, should they choose to embrace their birth sex.

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:23

GenderlessVoid · 18/05/2026 17:16

There was ARPANET and I think another one or two others, used by the military, academics, and some computer scientists.

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Yes. It was designed to move secure documentations mainly around universities. But it was not the Internet, the internet started to be expanded to the general population in the early 90s.