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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

US to open world’s first children’s ‘detransition clinic’ Texas hospital to offer free services reversing the effects of gender-affirming treatments

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 16/05/2026 10:43

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/05/15/texas-reverse-transgender-treatment-childrens-clinic/

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Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:24

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:21

Sorry.

I don't know much about the modern trans community. There were trans communities in the 1980s but they probably weren't connected, at least outside the connections between LGB communities back then.

Yes, trans people were a part of lesbian and gay communities in the 1980s.

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Correct, straight and bisexual men have been trying to access lesbians for decades by pretending to be women.

Wearenotborg · 18/05/2026 17:24

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:12

You are just putting random words together now. Maybe go bake a cake or something?

Oh my days. Loving the fact that” sex is not real” apparently. In that case, as gender is based on stereotypes attributed to each sex, then gender also is not real, therefore transpeople are not transitioning to or from anything. Surely that would put paid to all those TIM who state they are female. How do they know? if sex is not real, why do transpeople get surgery to try to replicate the sex characteristics of the opposite what should be called sex but apparently isn’t..

It does seem a bit odd that all mammals divide into two classes, that humans have named make and female but suddenly this is not “real”.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 18/05/2026 17:25

GenderlessVoid · 18/05/2026 17:09

I knew a few transwomen in the early 1980s. I don't think any of them used the internet. Very few people did back then.

Yes. The good old days when this social contagion could not spread and there was 100,000 times less trans people

because it’s a social contagion

That’s why the numbers are going back down

because we’re reducing the contagion.

you have been quarantined.

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KnottyAuty · 18/05/2026 17:25

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 15:19

During this growth stage, testosterone was not male levels and oestrogen was at female levels. But facts never got in the way of a good sex realist yarn.

LOL! Testosterone “not at male levels”
But not at female levels either right?
but we won’t let the facts get in the way

Cringe. Just cringing for you

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:26

Wearenotborg · 18/05/2026 17:24

Oh my days. Loving the fact that” sex is not real” apparently. In that case, as gender is based on stereotypes attributed to each sex, then gender also is not real, therefore transpeople are not transitioning to or from anything. Surely that would put paid to all those TIM who state they are female. How do they know? if sex is not real, why do transpeople get surgery to try to replicate the sex characteristics of the opposite what should be called sex but apparently isn’t..

It does seem a bit odd that all mammals divide into two classes, that humans have named make and female but suddenly this is not “real”.

If sex wasn't real then why was it a worldwide phenomenon that the women all decided to be the ones that carried the babies?

What were the chances?

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:26

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:24

Correct, straight and bisexual men have been trying to access lesbians for decades by pretending to be women.

This is an unhinged response. Trans women were in the gay community. Trans men were in the lesbian community. Sex realism really needs to spend some time adjusting to the world as it exists and not the world they envision exists.

KnottyAuty · 18/05/2026 17:27

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 15:28

I am not a minor. I transitioned as a minor. These two statements can co-exist outside of sex realist belief.

Ok thanks - if you are still that height have you investigated any growth disorders because you might be shorter than my dog

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:28

Wearenotborg · 18/05/2026 17:24

Oh my days. Loving the fact that” sex is not real” apparently. In that case, as gender is based on stereotypes attributed to each sex, then gender also is not real, therefore transpeople are not transitioning to or from anything. Surely that would put paid to all those TIM who state they are female. How do they know? if sex is not real, why do transpeople get surgery to try to replicate the sex characteristics of the opposite what should be called sex but apparently isn’t..

It does seem a bit odd that all mammals divide into two classes, that humans have named make and female but suddenly this is not “real”.

The actions of gender stereotyping exist and are harmful. The rest of this is passive-aggressive obfuscation.

spannasaurus · 18/05/2026 17:28

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:26

If sex wasn't real then why was it a worldwide phenomenon that the women all decided to be the ones that carried the babies?

What were the chances?

That would be because they were assigned a socially constructed gender at birth I assume.

It's obviously just a coincidence that the humans with a uterus were assigned the woman gender

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:30

KnottyAuty · 18/05/2026 17:27

Ok thanks - if you are still that height have you investigated any growth disorders because you might be shorter than my dog

I've lost one inch of height in 40 years. Apparently this is important enough for a half-dozen posts across threads.

KnottyAuty · 18/05/2026 17:31

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 15:46

The sex realist agenda didn't exist in the 80s and 90s...or the 00s, for that matter.

It’s quotes like this that make you sound child like or a simpleton. Sex realist has always existed as long as evolution unless you don’t think that exists either 🤣 Genderism has been around in the mainstream for the blink of an eye in comparison. And will probably be subsumed into categorisations to be allocated in future to human-like cyborgs. That is one thing we can thank the genderists for - when robotics evolve further we will already be clear about who is a woman.

Wearenotborg · 18/05/2026 17:31

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:26

If sex wasn't real then why was it a worldwide phenomenon that the women all decided to be the ones that carried the babies?

What were the chances?

I know. And putting aside humans, are the TRA now claiming sex does not exist for any species or is just in humans? Are we not mammals any more? But even if we thought of different names rather than male and female, it works still be true that there are only two types of humans when it comes to reproduction.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 18/05/2026 17:31

solerolover · 18/05/2026 17:22

Janice Raymond was bang on the money when she said that "...masculine behavior is notably obtrusive."

Anyway, back to the actual issue at hand, it's fantastic to hear that people who choose to detransition will actually have somewhere to turn. I've listened to and read many testimonies from detrans people, and they often express how little support there is for them on multiple levels, should they choose to embrace their birth sex.

Yes, they seem to love the sounds of their own voices (or reading their own words) more than anything else in the universe.

Anyway, thank you for bringing it back around on topic, for however long that will last!
I am mainly concerned about how the long-term physical issues will be handled (will medical insurance continue to cover their health care needs, etc., for those who need medical insurance), and how will mental health support be catered for. In my experience, transitioning is often presented as the be-all, end-all panacea for every issue (and clearly is not); many of the issues will still remain after detransitioning, so I hope that there will be appropriate and sufficient support for these.

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:34

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:26

This is an unhinged response. Trans women were in the gay community. Trans men were in the lesbian community. Sex realism really needs to spend some time adjusting to the world as it exists and not the world they envision exists.

Trans women would have been in the gay community if they were gay men. Because they are men.

The reason that there are sparingly few lesbian spaces featuring actual women is because of straight or bisexual men and their inability to keep out of these spaces.

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:34

KnottyAuty · 18/05/2026 17:31

It’s quotes like this that make you sound child like or a simpleton. Sex realist has always existed as long as evolution unless you don’t think that exists either 🤣 Genderism has been around in the mainstream for the blink of an eye in comparison. And will probably be subsumed into categorisations to be allocated in future to human-like cyborgs. That is one thing we can thank the genderists for - when robotics evolve further we will already be clear about who is a woman.

Our culture, as it pertains to sex was and is sex essentialist. This doesn't change the fact that no one knows the form of anyone else's chromosomes or the gametes they are assumed to produce.

"gender ideology" didn't exist until it was coined by the Catholic church. It seems a convenient straw man to attack rather than actual people.

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:36

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:34

Trans women would have been in the gay community if they were gay men. Because they are men.

The reason that there are sparingly few lesbian spaces featuring actual women is because of straight or bisexual men and their inability to keep out of these spaces.

I can't remember if I asked you if you were straight the last time we had this discussion.

If you weren't straight, you would know that gay men absolutely did not treat trans women as men. We were forbidden from entering the 'men only' spaces like back rooms, strip bars and bath houses.

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:37

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:36

I can't remember if I asked you if you were straight the last time we had this discussion.

If you weren't straight, you would know that gay men absolutely did not treat trans women as men. We were forbidden from entering the 'men only' spaces like back rooms, strip bars and bath houses.

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You just said they were part of the gay community.

Get your story straight.

I've never had this discussion with you, you are imagining things. On so many levels.

Wearenotborg · 18/05/2026 17:38

So if TIM know they’re not male. And we know some do to claim to be female, but no one knows anyone’s chromosomes or gametes, how do they know? If there is no definition of male, how can anyone claim not to be male? What frame of reference are they using?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 18/05/2026 17:38

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 15:15

You can accuse me of derailing threads, but there were more than a dozen posts including this one following my last post, meta-dialoging about me in that FWR passive-aggressive cliquey tone.

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😂I was very careful not to make personal accusations against any soecific poster. But if you identify your posts as derailing by "personal anecdotes rather than addressing the catastrophic harm that's happened to so many children and young people" then that's progress.

Maybe you could think next think about why you spend so much time on a feminist board posting numerous comments that display a contempt and disrespect for women?

No need to respond - more a suggestion for a bit of self reflection that might be useful.

KnottyAuty · 18/05/2026 17:38

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:11

the 'real' in realism doesn't exist. We are a social mammal, with art and culture (for good and bad). Sex has been manifested outside of the body across millennia.

Keep going this is proving hugely entertaining!

As I was squeezing the 2 DCs out, in pool in the dining room, I can tell you that art and culture were no help. I was pure mammal and it was great - hear me roar! The neighbours claim they heard nothing disappointingly

I made a human! And none of you chaps will ever experience that which must annoy the feck out of you - but you do your art and culture stuff - knock yourself out

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:39

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:37

You just said they were part of the gay community.

Get your story straight.

I've never had this discussion with you, you are imagining things. On so many levels.

You are loading a lot of assumptions into my statements. This is not on me.

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:40

Wearenotborg · 18/05/2026 17:38

So if TIM know they’re not male. And we know some do to claim to be female, but no one knows anyone’s chromosomes or gametes, how do they know? If there is no definition of male, how can anyone claim not to be male? What frame of reference are they using?

Meta-dialoging and passive-aggressive posting again?

Wearenotborg · 18/05/2026 17:42

The thing is, if humans are “social mammals” then that means they are still mammals, so sex is binary and immutable. So unless there is proof that humans are not in fact mammals, it will remain a fact there are two immutable and unchangeable sexes.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 18/05/2026 17:43

Shedmistress · 18/05/2026 17:37

You just said they were part of the gay community.

Get your story straight.

I've never had this discussion with you, you are imagining things. On so many levels.

If it's true, it's because he said it.
If it's not true, he never said it.
And, even if he gets it wrong, it wasn't his fault.

polypostwonder · 18/05/2026 17:43

Wearenotborg · 18/05/2026 17:42

The thing is, if humans are “social mammals” then that means they are still mammals, so sex is binary and immutable. So unless there is proof that humans are not in fact mammals, it will remain a fact there are two immutable and unchangeable sexes.

This is the sex realist 1+1 = 1 theory of sex.