Hamas sexual violence on 7th October attack. Content warning.

[ArabellaScott]

A new investigation has shared more information on details of Hamas' atrocities.

I do urge caution when reading, and don't if you are feeling fragile.

'An independent, Israeli investigation has published harrowing details of "systematic, widespread" sexual violence by Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups during the attacks on 7 October 2023, and against hostages.
The 300-page report concludes that rapes, sexual assault and sexual torture were intended "to maximize pain and suffering".
While the UN and others have published reports on sexual violence during the attacks – in which about 1,200 people were killed and 251 taken hostage – this is the most comprehensive.
It draws on 430 filmed interviews with survivors and witnesses, more than 10,000 photographs and videos filmed by attackers, and official records and material from attack sites.'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgz9k7pzggo

Wow. I see what you are doing here. With your violent gangs from Gaza comment. This is obviously the line antizionists are taking who realise they can’t deny the rapes happened. But still need to maintain their ‘noble Hamas resistance fighters’ narrative. The mass rape but was the ‘violent gangs’, not Hamas. Right.

Israelis who oppose the government are at risk? No they are not. Israel is a fully functioning democracy. Demonstrations take place regularly in public. Just like they do here.

It’s in Gaza that the public are murdered by Hamas of they protest the government.

How dare you try to smear those conducting an investigation into these horrific events.

Shrewd? Shrewd?!

May you never realise how low you have stooped. Truly.

Excellent response.
Hamas and their ilk are Stone Age savages.

@mnhq why on earth was my neutral, factual posting regarding the terrible consequences for Gaza of the war simply censored and deleted
It wasn't trying to justify or explain Hamas criminal actions.
Just evidently indicating that criticism of Israel post the Gaza war is not simply motivated by 'Jew hatred' as some posters seem to want to believe.

As a hosting forum you need to be neutral about major wars conflicts, or else clearly and openly declare your bias.

Astonishing. Genuinely.

@EmilyinEverton so you agree, only failed/conflict/authoritarian states have been investigated by the UN with the exception of Ukraine, which I've addressed, and Israel, which is still somehow not good enough for you.

What brings you to the feminist forum, Fella?

Good fucking god.

Where does.one even start with a post that manages to be so breathtakingly stupid, wrong, offensive and cruel in so many ways, while claiming to be Righteous?

We are in the upside down.

Yes to this.

I'm not "doing" anything but repeating what was found in the Israeli report the OP posted:

"An independent, Israeli investigation has published harrowing details of "systematic, widespread" sexual violence by Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups during the attacks on 7 October 2023, and against hostages.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgz9k7pzggo

Israeli victims are forbidden from even talking about the horrors inflicted, lest they be called shrewd.

I am still struggling to get over that.

Generally I caution people about reading those reports. They are gruelling. It took me a long time to manage the APPG report. I was careful.

I understand how traumatising and damaging it can be to even read about these things, so I don't usually suggest people do so

For those attacking Israel, though: I wish that you would.

Fully functioning democracies don't brutalise their citizens for protesting or force conscientious objectors to fight immoral & illegal wars.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-31/ultra-orthodox-israelis-protest-against-military-draft-jerusalem/105954936

How dare you misrepresent my words which were specifically referencing how the publication of the report would be received.

"Most people will simply view the publication of the report as another shrewd grab at sympathy & finger pointing unfortunately as Israel's good will has completely dried up."

Whaaat? How is that even relevant?

You realise the purpose of the UN investigating war crimes is specifically to recommend charges to the International Criminal Court for prosecution? Oh wait…

IE They are there to HELP.

I'll say it again, despite being deleted. The British Army has never committed acts of mass rape, torture, and murder as part of a coordinated and planned attack.

Those that excuse Hamas' behaviour because they don't like Israel's response, clearly just hate Jews and Israelis, and would rather allow Palestinians and Israelis to suffer rather than place any blame on Hamas.

You clearly stated that there needed to be an independent investigation and that reports like the one at the start of this thread, produced by an NGO did not count.

I asked if the UN typically gets involved in functioning countries and you said they did but could only provide examples of failed states, Ukraine (which asked them for support because of the toll of the war) and Israel. You are holding Israel to a different standard than you would any other functioning state.

Is it not an open forum - that anyone (including men) can engage with people on the site (which here would mainly be women who would describe themselves as feminist)? On the liberal principle that our arguments and beliefs are best tested with people who don't automatically agree and sometimes oppose them . I'm not exactly flooding the site with commentary, and don't intend to do so.
I put Fella in my name so that i am upfront and honest about my male sex (and gender identity)
I do have concerns about Trump etc weaponising issues in alliance with some self-described feminists as a Trojan horse for (other) right wing policies. But my views are my own and not aligned to any group or organisation.
Was it you that asked for the post to be deleted, if so please kindly share your reasoning behind that?

I'm sorry but isn't the British Army generally regarded as one of the most brutal and savage in the entire world? I admit I am not all that clued up on history these days but I seem to recall some famous black historian having them in first place for number of genocides caused. Even I was shocked because they don't ever teach us things like that in school.

Let's not be drawn into idiotic partisanship. This isn't a sports game where we need to take sides. Just because the blue-haired trans-supporting lunatics have decided to throw all their weight behind the Palestinian terrorists doesn't mean that feminists need to do the same for the Israeli warmongers. Hamas have treated women horribly, but Israel have destroyed the homes and lives of many more innocent women and children on response.