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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Giggle v Tickle Friday 15th May 2pm AEST

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impossibletoday · 11/05/2026 06:40

Giggle v Tickle
Friday 15th May
2pm AEST
Live streamed

https://x.com/i/status/2053669311504642197

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FeralWoman · 27/05/2026 05:52

@TheKhakiQuail It’s confusing isn’t it. Bloody idiots. If you have a look at the submission by Cody in the Giggle case you’ll find a lot of their definitions written down. They particularly appear in the footnotes and have references for where they’re sourced from.

https://www.fedcourt.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/112299/Submission-of-the-Australian-Human-Rights-Commission.pdf

TheKhakiQuail · 27/05/2026 06:00

FeralWoman · 27/05/2026 05:52

@TheKhakiQuail It’s confusing isn’t it. Bloody idiots. If you have a look at the submission by Cody in the Giggle case you’ll find a lot of their definitions written down. They particularly appear in the footnotes and have references for where they’re sourced from.

https://www.fedcourt.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/112299/Submission-of-the-Australian-Human-Rights-Commission.pdf

Even what they've written in the submission clashes with what they said in Senate Committee yesterday

"Whether a person is of a particular “sex” for the purposes of the SDA may take into account a range of factors, which may include their biological and physical characteristics, whether they are legally recognised as that sex under State and Territory law, as well as how they present themselves and are socially recognised. However, for the purposes of these proceedings, the Court need not exhaustively identify all the relevant factors, or determine whether any of them is necessary to be a particular “sex”. The Court need only conclude that, for a person to be of the female “sex”, it is sufficient if that sex is recorded on the person’s birth certificate and/or they have undergone gender affirming surgery to affirm their status as female. Although unnecessary to decide in the present case, a person may also be of the female “sex” in other circumstances, eg if they 5[2023] FCA 553 at [15]. 6[2023] FCA 553 at [16]. 7[2023] FCA 553 at [16]. 8[2023] FCA 553 at [17]. 9[2023] FCA 553 at [17]. 6 have undergone hormonal therapy to affirm they are “female” and/or present themselves and are socially recognised as “female”, and even if their sex has not been recorded as “female” on any official register. "

Those 'and/or's mean people don't have to fulfill 3 criteria as said in Senate Committee! Just any one of them. Assuming the AHRC submission is correct.

TheSandgroper · 27/05/2026 06:38

Sky Australia clipped the discussion on pregnancy protection.

I do not understand how Anna Cody can draw a salary with a straight face.

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TheKhakiQuail · 27/05/2026 09:01

TheSandgroper · 27/05/2026 06:38

Sky Australia clipped the discussion on pregnancy protection.

I do not understand how Anna Cody can draw a salary with a straight face.

A $408,000 salary too. Oh the irony of the Sex Discrimination Commissioner trying so hard to get rid of sex in law. It's maddening.

ScrollingLeaves · 27/05/2026 09:25

Australia should be very ashamed.

This is extremely funny though.

NotBadConsidering · 27/05/2026 09:42

There are lots of people who have been willing to beclown themselves in thrall of the gender ideology circus, but sitting there - twice - in the Australian parliament and saying things you know to be false so brazenly, must mean Anna Cody is right up there in contention for the Bozo Ronald McDonald Gold Medal.

KnottyAuty · 27/05/2026 09:56

Cody’s completely abandoned women but is also very poor at answering the questions. I also thought that the questions posed by the senators were fairly poor. The EA2010 covers “perceived discrimination” which is what the discussion about pregnancy covered - a woman might not be offered a job on the assumption that she’ll get pregnant (or get offered lower pay) because she’s female.

If there’s a TIM who genuinely passes then theres a very very tiny chance this might happen to them - BUT (and it’s a big BUT) how many TIMs genuinely pass? AND it’s also much more likely that the TIM will have made sure their prospective employers know about their trans status with it’s inherent advantages and protections (it’s much easier to claim transphobia than sexism) …. Therefore by inference they’ll have declared themselves male (with special sparkles on top) which is far far more likely to result in positive discrimination imo.

why aren’t the senators asking that?
the positive discrimination for trans to women’s detriment aspect is so blatant and so unlawful!? Why never mentioned?

BezMills · 27/05/2026 10:34

bladdy hell, Theo's only been wheels on the ground for a few weeks and already they are saying men can be female. We're well rid!

FeralWoman · 27/05/2026 13:18

BezMills · 27/05/2026 10:34

bladdy hell, Theo's only been wheels on the ground for a few weeks and already they are saying men can be female. We're well rid!

Legally it’s been that way since 2013. Sall Grover (Giggle vs Tickle) has been dealing with it for over 4 years. Unfortunately we can’t blame it on Theo.

impossibletoday · 27/05/2026 16:19

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Giggle v Tickle  Friday 15th May  2pm AEST
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ThatCyanCat · 27/05/2026 16:20

Facebook is nothing but AI click bait rubbish these days anyway, no wonder it's rejecting worthwhile content.

FeralWoman · 27/05/2026 18:37

Oh FFS. Fucking Meta. That’s ridiculous.

EdithStourton · 27/05/2026 18:56

impossibletoday · 27/05/2026 16:19

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Oh FFS.

impossibletoday · 28/05/2026 12:27

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KnottyAuty · 28/05/2026 12:39

impossibletoday · 28/05/2026 12:27

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Thank goodness for that!
reading the first post i had thought I’d have to delete my account.
How utterly ridiculous Meta are - their track record of misogyny is depressing Si im glad they have redeemed themselves somewhat this time

TheKhakiQuail · 29/05/2026 03:56

KnottyAuty · 27/05/2026 09:56

Cody’s completely abandoned women but is also very poor at answering the questions. I also thought that the questions posed by the senators were fairly poor. The EA2010 covers “perceived discrimination” which is what the discussion about pregnancy covered - a woman might not be offered a job on the assumption that she’ll get pregnant (or get offered lower pay) because she’s female.

If there’s a TIM who genuinely passes then theres a very very tiny chance this might happen to them - BUT (and it’s a big BUT) how many TIMs genuinely pass? AND it’s also much more likely that the TIM will have made sure their prospective employers know about their trans status with it’s inherent advantages and protections (it’s much easier to claim transphobia than sexism) …. Therefore by inference they’ll have declared themselves male (with special sparkles on top) which is far far more likely to result in positive discrimination imo.

why aren’t the senators asking that?
the positive discrimination for trans to women’s detriment aspect is so blatant and so unlawful!? Why never mentioned?

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They're going for the media soundbite with that pregnancy point rather than deep diving the issue, e.g. trans men. But they did ask some good questions, Cash drilled down on what are the criteria in law to be a trans woman and to be a woman in the SDA. Having listened a couple of times to the answers, Cody did say Cash was wrong that only 1 criteria like clothing is enough for sex, only for gender identity. There are 3 for sex, although she didn't quite say all 3 have to be met, only that 3 would be looked at by a judge. It's a bit like the GRC that is highly confidential, how are service providers supposed to assess whether someone is a woman in law if determining that requires a judge to consider 3 criteria which may or may not all have to be met?

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KnottyAuty · 29/05/2026 10:09

Would love to see one of our Select Committees put similar questions to the BBC

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