Transgender hate on mum's net

[Steph2002]

I'm just wondering, I see so much hate on here about transgender woman and not a lot about transgender men. Does everyone on mum's net hate Transgender women and if so why? I don't mind sharing a toilet space with a transgender woman in fact my best friend is a transgender woman and she is the nicest person you could ever wish to meet and will protect any woman no matter where they are. I would hate to be sharing a toilet with a hairy masculine transgender man, which seems the way people want to go why? Am I the only person on here that supports trans gender women, if so I need to leave. How many people that hate Transgender women have actually met one and had issues with one I'd love to know.

One of the papers they quote is by Rachel McKinnon, now known as Veronica Ivy, the TRA who insisted that it’s his human right to beat women at cycling.

Of course you have!

Can someone please tell me what is funny about it? I’m autistic. And I just don’t get it.

So what makes someone transgender?

Have you ever considered the situation from the perspective of a female person who has a trauma reaction when a male person enters a space where that female person expected to be with only other female people?

You really don't seem well informed on this and I wonder if you even spared a thought to those female people.

The point is that per capita MORE men who identify as trans commit sexual assault than men who don’t identify as trans. That’s the stats we have from ONS.

I’m feeling a bit confused as this thread has gone on - we’ve all been happily and unknowingly sharing toilets with trans identifying males since forever, but we’re also never likely to share toilets with a trans identifying male because there are so few of them 🤔

It not you. I've no idea what was funny about it either

It isn't funny in a humorous way, Taz.

The OP is laughing because they did it and they never had an issue so they might be laughing because they had thought it was common to do so, or because they made an error in judgement.

They may be laughing for a number of reasons. I am not sure you will get a response from them though Taz.

Name them. Report their posts to
MNHQ.

@Steph2002youvr made a quick jump from most women in FWS talking about protecting women’s spaces and equating this to trans hate. You are right however in the domination of TW in the debate - I don’t think you can ignore the contributing factor that it’s intrinsically biological men demanding affirmation at the expense of women’s spaces. Central to this difference is the fact that men feel they have the right to dominate the narrative. This can be seen throughout the world. If trans(W) wanted to highlight there plight, it should have been done by carving out the need for a third space, but instead they focused on demanding space. There is also an issue with the umbrella term that is now trans and how much now sits underneath - this includes fetishistic men, AGP, perverts, etc… denying this reality has done a lot of damage. Now we are at a place where the social contract has been broken, women are having to fight even for our language, women, once again have been threatened, silenced, abused and worse. So again it’s not about hating trans people, but it’s about acknowledging the inherent biological differences and why these differences have allowed for policies and resources to be written so women can receive female specific care. This does not involve a TIM. Instead, men have inserted themselves into womanhood and then claim victimhood when women say no. A man may dress as he pleases, he can take the relevant drugs to mimic the female hormonal profile, he may even go as far as castrating himself and building an opening, but none of this will reflect what a woman goes through. To ignore this, and demand access, is obscene - and yet here we are.

I would beg to differ. I would argue that you’re a hater of women. You have no compassion for women who don’t want males in their spaces and sports.

I've had adult female blood testosterone levels for over 40 years and have never felt this way. Removing male levels of testosterones does not remove sex drive.

She cant because there arent any

@Steph2002

"I don't mind sharing a toilet space with a transgender woman in fact my best friend is a transgender woman and she is the nicest person you could ever wish to meet and will protect any woman no matter where they are."

Do you believe that your friend should be housed in a female prison if he was convicted of a crime and was jailed?

Do you believe that your friend should access a female rape support group?

Do you believe that your friend should be allowed to compete at the Olympics as a female person?

Does your friend use any female single sex toilet or changing room? Because, if he does, he is not 'protecting any woman', he is potentially causing harm to female people by doing so.

I have only ever been sexually abused by men. So do I mind changing in single sex spaces with men? Yes I do. That is why separate toilets were invented.

Right?

I do wonder how people who defend this behaviour would feel if say, they were at a restaurant and their 8 year old daughter went to use the bathroom. A man in a dress and lipstick follows behind her. Would they not get up and go in as an instinct? Are they seriously suggesting they wouldnt bat an eye and carry on as normal? Because their one transgender friend is "nice". Insanity.

Great thread.

Fuck me that one went quick, Mrs O. No idea why though.

Then maybe you should go around with men that don't agree with gender ideology

Because PP thinks we don’t know what sex they are.

I blinked and missed it. Now I will never know.

Me.

A woman using the men's in a pinch is different to a man using the women's. Why is that?

Didn't it just. Wonder what it was I said?