Trans people are more obsessed with JK Rowling then they think she is with them

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It's strange, isn't it? They really can't keep her name out of their mouths. Very baffling.

Yes! I've thought this for a long time.
And like I've said on here before too, they need her. Want attention? Say something about JKR. Got a flagging career? Mention JKR and catapult yourself right back into the media.

She Who Must not be Named Yet Constantly Is😂

It’s not really baffling.

She is a very powerful, very successful woman who is outspoken in her defence of women’s rights.

Not only that but she puts her considerable financial resources where her mouth is.

JK Rowling is far too rich to damage financially.

They can’t complain to her boss and she’s too successful to put pressure on her publishers or other business partners.

She’s so rich and powerful that threats of malicious prosecutions or reporting her to the police for her social media posts are ineffective. Not many people can wield legal representation with quite such an insouciant approach to the cost.

Being mean about her, and getting people she knows or is professionally associated with to be mean about her is really all they can do to hurt her.

All the usual tactics are ineffective.

And even their current tactics seem to be like water off a ducks back. However she feels privately she’s not giving any quarter publicly.

Not many people, let alone women, are in such an unassailable position. And even fewer have either her courage or wonderful way with words.

I think cause many of them loved HP and she seemed to have politics which would say she would be a trans ally. They are most mad at the women who they thought would be allies. And she also won't let herself be controlled, even a little.

She's basically become a lightning rod for their hate now, she's grown from a little boogeyman into some kind of legendary evil because of all their delusional whinging. I think the hate for her has just sort of has built on itself at this point. They hate her cause everyone does in their world, and that's what you do if you are "pro trans". It's like shorthand to say "i'm in the cult too, not a heretic like evil JKR"

Agree.

Do you have to be obsessed with someone to argue that their views are offensive? I don’t think so.
Would you also suggest that anyone currently criticising Trump is obsessed with him?

What has she said that is offensive?
It would be helpful if people could actually quote something.

They're generally wildly incorrect about her views, misrepresenting them either deliberately or through ignorance in order to whip up more hatred against her. The amount of hatred the trans community and their allies have poured out on JKR is exponentially, astronomically more than she has ever directed at them; in fact I don't think she has ever said a hateful thing about trans people, unless you count her statement that transwomen are not women, which is a statement the majority of people would agree with.

Comparing people's critiques of Trump, an obviously wicked person, with the trans and allies relentless hatred towards JKR, a good person, is a textbook example of false equivalency.

FWIW I do know quite a few UK people who are weirdly obsessed with hating Trump, in the sense that they drag anti- Trump references and jokes into almost any conversation.

He's a disaster of a POTUS and definitely can be criticised but it more than that, like they are tieing their identity to the politics of a country they do not even live in far more than the politics of the actual home.

@Mapletree1985 "Comparing people's critiques of Trump, an obviously wicked person, with the trans and allies relentless hatred towards JKR, a good person, is a textbook example of false equivalency."

The point isn't the similarity of the targets. It's the weird similarity of the perps.

Weird, because both groups think they have absolutely nothing in common.

The former newsreader with the Fiat is completely and utterly scarily obsessed with her.

Has anyone ever found an approach which trans+allies are willing to think about instead of falling into an instant foaming fit?

All I can think of is quotes of what she's actually said. But that doesn't seem to help. Is there anything?

Nope. Because that would require 1. Using their brains, and you know they can't do that and 2. Thinking nuanced instead of their selfish black and white view of the world.

What i love about her most is that she knows what an abusive narcissistic man looks and sounds like based on her own experiences, when she had no power at all in Portugal.

Now she has power and is prepared to look at these men straight in the tweet eye and sock it to them.

Thats why she doesn’t just flick IW of with a finger, a parasitic flea deserves, she gives him verbal dressing downs because it benefits us all.

This is all I’ve ever seen in response to this question.

my then new daughter in law once said she had made transphobic comments. I asked her the same question and it turned her GC when she realised that it was not anti gay or homophobic to be suspicious of trans rights activism and propaganda.

A pattern in trans people who are very active on social media is that they all have very obsessive thoughts. That has lead me to believe that having a predisposition obsessive thoughts might be something that leads someone to being transgender.

There is a hugely overrepresenation of people on the ASD spectrum and young people that have experienced sexaul PTSD or cPTSD both of which lead to obsessive thoughts and actions

I believe that there is evidence most people from a very young age have periods where they don't feel at home in their bodies or in the social roles that their bodies are represented in. I wonder if being pre-disposed to obsessive thoughts and actions then raises the risk of the dysphoria from setting in.

I would also observe that JKR also exhibits obsessive personality traits. It would be interesting to know if she was the same age as the actors who played the kids in the movies which side of the debate she would fall on.

So it makes sense that people experiencing Trans- ideology would be obsessed with solving the "problem of JKR" and when she didn't tow the line she became a symbol rather than a person. The issue is she is giving back the same energy. I also agree that any cynical person who needs PR can just evoke the name JKR and gain a huge amount of (young) followers.

I have noticed this too.

I fell that it is rather like the USA and Canada - the US never really thinks about Canada (unless there is a Trump like leader) where as Canada thinks about the US all the time.

The same applies to Sweden and Denmark - Sweden don't think about Denmark that much but the Danes always think about Sweden.

I suppose that applies here to - us and the Irish?

And I mean no insult to Irish, Canadians or Danes!

I was entirely focused on my "big brother's friends." They did not even notice me...😁

You know what to buy them for their birthdays.
Copies of Harry Potter.

😂

Sure, and I daresay their knowledge of the US is as superficial as their knowledge of Palestine, say. But I must admit I do bristle when people talk about "Trump Derangement Syndrome". Yes, he that bad! He's crook and chancer who doesn't give a damn about the democratic process.

Name one, just ONE thing she has said that is half-way offensive, let alone offensive. Go on, one! I lay 10 to 1 you won't come back and list anything, @WaffleParty .

Apparently she has caused pile-ons by being a famous person, with lots of followers, who has responded cuttingly to poor little downtrodden people such as India.

He's also the most powerful man in the world. It's plain fact that he holds significant influence over everyone's lives. There's no real equivalent, and even a cultural figure as significant as JKR certainly isn't it.