Trans people are more obsessed with JK Rowling then they think she is with them

[BlueSkiesAndSunshiiine]

It's strange, isn't it? They really can't keep her name out of their mouths. Very baffling.

Yup a lot of creatives are surprisingly. Even some of the people who worked on the original Doom were.
(I hope i didn't come across mean towards him in my comment he seems nice-havent met him but I've heard good things).

You can have an opinion on what JKR does and doesn't do if you want, which naturally other people are free to think is batshit, snivelling or any other criticism, if you choose to share it.

Having expectations that she behave in the way you approve of is overstepping though.

My original point was more "a lot of male creatives that have connection to things the trans community don't like-such as people financially supporting the LDS church which is harsh on lgbtq stuff- still are beloved by the trans community". It kinda got off track but that was my intent with the first post.

Oh come on. You can like and respect someone and not agree with everything they do or wish they would do better. You seem really into defending her from what? Nothing at all really? Me calling her annoying and wishing she’d stop giving so much airtime to her haters? Sorry I’m the villain? I think most therapists would tell her to do the same?

But why don't you care about donkeys ir hedgehogs?

I have the same expectations of everyone. I would tell my bff the same. Sweetie I love you; I think you’re fabulous; but even watching paint dry would be a better use of your time than engaging with that

I do. Why don’t you think I do? I’m really not a horrible person. I care about all living creatures on the planet

Oh absolutely. I'm not LDS though a ton of my extended family are.

I just find it interesting that it's female creators who attract the flak on these issues.

Take your tone policing and apply it to the TRAs.

Introspection isn't your strong point, is it?

It's the trans rights activists that turned TERF into a slur, along with violent threats and imagery.

If we take the label they call us and reclaim it for ourselves, how is that "offensive"? Terf Island is a badge of pride (oh the irony) now; we stood tall and defended women's rights despite the awful treatment we got for doing so.

I defend jk passionately to anyone who will listen. It doesn’t mean I have to agree with everything she does.

I agree, the blokes who have no truck with this nonsense don't get anything like the shit-storm women do, on the whole.

A few do - James Essus comes to mind - but by and large it's the women who bear the brunt of it.

Plus ça change etc

There is a middle ground available. You can dislike what she does whilst not presuming to tone police it.

I have discovered (thanks to the BYU genealogy bods) that I am fairly closely related to Stevie Nicks.

Someone once gave me a solid piece of advice, if you like Stevie Nicks as an artist, don't subscribe to her social media, because she is so up herself that you'll lose any desire to listen to her music.

This doesn't exactly apply to JKR, because whether or not I agree with her on issue X, I can see where she's coming from and appreciate how she has arrived at her position.

Basically, my view on men being able so self-ID into women't spaces stands on its own feet and doesn't rely on JKR agreeing with it.

Deeds not words.
Your tone policing is not welcome.

Her views are not offensive though are they. They’re called facts. Fancy comparing the two 🤣

How have I toned policed you? I’ve spoken about my opinions on jk. that’s a bit of a stretch but I’d love to hear how you got there. You say what you want. I’ll say what I want. If you want tone policing, you’re actually coming across as immature and unable to cope with differing views. Not the best look. But you do you.

There goes another thread.

Tone policing? I can say I wish she didn’t post shit she knows pisses people off. I can say as someone who’s looked up to her from being a very young child that she needs dumbledores advice - if you’re waiting for universal popularity, you’re never going to leave your house.
you can’t just make accusations when someone doesn’t agree with you.

She posts facts and witty retorts to stupid people. If people get pissed off at facts then that’s a them problem.

Yes, tone policing. That is what you're doing when you talk about not liking the way she conducts herself and saying what you expect her to do instead. The things you're saying about her are, incidentally, accusations you've made up when someone (JKR) disagrees with you.

You're allowed to say those things, if for whatever reason you feel the urge, but what you appear to have missed is that other people are allowed to respond to them.

She’s a public figure who has a huge following and impact. I can say what I don’t like about her behaviour and what I wish she’d do instead because of the impact i think it has. I’m not policing you. I don’t think she’s reading this but if she is, it’s coming from a place of love. The difference between me and you is I’m the one being attacked for actually just discussing why this is still going on after so long when it could have died a quiet death years ago?

To be fair JKR also benefits from their obsessive failed cancellation attempts that give free publicity to her stuff.

Look at the huge views for the HP trailer which they promoted.

They just can't help themselves, really. Almost compulsive urge to spread their nonsense around like a baby plays with its dinner.