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CassOle · 28/03/2026 18:43

Uglydumpling · 28/03/2026 18:40

Yes usually defined by gametes on the whole but there are variations

Please enlighten us.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 28/03/2026 18:43

Uglydumpling · 28/03/2026 18:41

no it doesn’t

being make isn’t just about having XY - much more complex and over time

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How typical that males would be "more complex".
They've always got to be special.

SternJoyousBeev2 · 28/03/2026 18:43

Uglydumpling · 28/03/2026 18:37

I’m sure I read he said he had a vagina

exclusive male would be not intersex - so usual pattern of male development - all male traits no mix

What “mix” does he have? Do you really think he has a pick and mix situation going on?

pigeonist · 28/03/2026 18:43

I'm amazed people are still giving any credence to Semenya's sob story. He knows he's male and he's confirmed this in several public interviews. "My testes don't make me any less of a woman" is him openly taking the piss.

He has to continue this false narrative that he is a woman unfairly discriminated against by bigoted policymakers because otherwise he would have to admit that his sporting career was a big lie.

midgetastic · 28/03/2026 18:44

Uglydumpling · 28/03/2026 18:42

I don’t know how you would know any of that - there is no evidence of that

what we know is What happened is assigned female at birth - lived as a women - she underwent testing and was found to have a DSD and we don’t have her full medical records

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midgetastic · 28/03/2026 18:45

Ah - being male is so
mucj more than XY

what exactly ?

perhaps I am male just with XX chromosomes

SternJoyousBeev2 · 28/03/2026 18:45

Intersex is unscientific activist language which is used to deliberately obfuscate and try and distort reality.

heathspeedwell · 28/03/2026 18:45

@Uglydumpling The main charity in the UK for people with DSDs actually had a meeting with Stonewall because Stonewall was spreading so much misinformation about DSDs. (You may recall the lie trans activists spread about how intersex traits are as common as having red hair. Actually only 0.018% of people have a DSD).

People with DSDs formally asked to not be linked to Stonewall.

Stonewall had to humiliatingly update their website to say they no longer represent people with DSDs (whom they insulting refer to as 'intersex').

Lots of transwomen like Jessica Yaniv claim to be intersex because they don't understand what it actually means and they have a fetish. But most people with DSDs reject the term 'intersex'.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 28/03/2026 18:46

pancakestastelikecrepe · 28/03/2026 17:53

Eh?
Are we to assume you do care about women and sports, given your position, commenting on an online thread about women and sports, which apparently all contributors don't care about women and sports?

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viques · 28/03/2026 18:46

Uglydumpling · 28/03/2026 18:41

no it doesn’t

being make isn’t just about having XY - much more complex and over time

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Over time? You mean over billions of years as like every other life form on this planet we evolved into a binary species? Or the last decade or so when we were temporarily blindsided by people with an agenda , loud voices and a limited understanding of biology?

Boiledbeetle · 28/03/2026 18:47

Uglydumpling · 28/03/2026 18:32

Shouting doesn’t make it any more real

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Uglydumpling · 28/03/2026 18:47

midgetastic · 28/03/2026 18:43

We are not forcing semenya to be a man

we are not insisting that semenya does anything other than remember they are male and respect that they are not female

nothing else

now singing the remember your a womble

yes people do the singing when they can’t carrying on listening to opinions that differ from theirs

Uglydumpling · 28/03/2026 18:48

CassOle · 28/03/2026 18:43

Please enlighten us.

It gets more complicated with dsds

GlovedhandsCecilia · 28/03/2026 18:49

Datafan55 · 28/03/2026 18:15

Some of us are capable of fighting for more than one thing at once, and turn up to watch grassroots events etc etc.

You seem to be implying that we should let men play women's sport unless we have a wsl season ticket or somethin , which is whataboutery at its finest.

Nope. I said you should stop making up things and weakening your argument with silly lies and rumours.

trikonasanallama · 28/03/2026 18:49

Uglydumpling · 28/03/2026 18:37

I’m sure I read he said he had a vagina

exclusive male would be not intersex - so usual pattern of male development - all male traits no mix

He? I thought you were insisting that CS was a she?

SwirlyGates · 28/03/2026 18:49

Uglydumpling · 28/03/2026 18:18

she is intersex and identifies as a women - we don’t have access to her full medical records

Identifies as a woman? Don't make me laugh. Just look at the manspreading here - have you ever seen a woman sit like that, particularly in public? He is a man, he knows he is a man, he has the body of a man and he behaves like a man. His socialisation is completely male - there is no way he identifies as a woman.

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CassOle · 28/03/2026 18:49

Uglydumpling · 28/03/2026 18:48

It gets more complicated with dsds

Which specific one(s) are you referring to?

theparadoxinstitute.org/articles/sex-development-charts

Uglydumpling · 28/03/2026 18:49

viques · 28/03/2026 18:46

Over time? You mean over billions of years as like every other life form on this planet we evolved into a binary species? Or the last decade or so when we were temporarily blindsided by people with an agenda , loud voices and a limited understanding of biology?

I mean the development of the person

and yes not all is perfect in evolution and people like CS have always existed

midgetastic · 28/03/2026 18:50

No I am just bored - you don’t offer up any real challenge

you make no factual points you just say oooh it’s complicated

its not complicated at all

midgetastic · 28/03/2026 18:51

The persons development starts when an egg meets and sperm and I think that sex is pretty well established then. And it’s the same sex that an archaeologist will determine thousands of years after death

remarkable stable

snickersnackers · 28/03/2026 18:51

Uglydumpling · 28/03/2026 18:48

It gets more complicated with dsds

Nope it really doesn't:

5-alpha reductase deficiency is a rare condition that exclusively affects genetically male individuals (46,XY).

SternJoyousBeev2 · 28/03/2026 18:51

Uglydumpling · 28/03/2026 18:40

Yes usually defined by gametes on the whole but there are variations

And what are those variations. Are you conflating sex with secondary sex characteristics ?

Boiledbeetle · 28/03/2026 18:51

Uglydumpling · 28/03/2026 18:38

You are forcing her right there

I don’t have to comply with the language - intersex is chosen by many

No one is forcing him into being a him. He just is.

I'm not standing over him with a gun to his head. I'm in a forum thousands of miles away stating facts.

And no one is forcing you to change your language. I just know you are wrong and am at liberty to say so, just like you are perfectly entitled to do the same.

Uglydumpling · 28/03/2026 18:52

Boiledbeetle · 28/03/2026 18:51

No one is forcing him into being a him. He just is.

I'm not standing over him with a gun to his head. I'm in a forum thousands of miles away stating facts.

And no one is forcing you to change your language. I just know you are wrong and am at liberty to say so, just like you are perfectly entitled to do the same.

😂😂😂😂 know you are wrong

loislovesstewie · 28/03/2026 18:52

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