Poor Semenya

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https://news.sky.com/story/if-women-must-stop-competing-so-be-it-semenyas-rallying-cry-over-olympics-transgender-athlete-ban-13525463

He's fighting for women's dignity apparently. The article says nothing about the children he's fathered, whilst being a woman of course.

You know that’s not comparable

she has chosen to stay with the sex she has been identified with at birth becuase her biology is not binary

Sorry? Are you saying that people can decide for themselves whether they are biologically male or female, as in change sex? Or are you talking about the social morass that is gender woo? Because this thread is focussing very heavily on the immutable science that is genetic sex.

Ah, I see you edited in the sentence about Semanya. I don’t think anyone on this thread is denying the existence of people with DSD.

His full medical records you mean.

I don't need to have his full medical records. Listening to him talk about his testicles did it for me.

If it was so irrefutable why is there so much debate and disagreement

You can have as many of your own opinions as you like but you don’t get to have your own facts.

This is a very good time to bring out the statement that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, including you Uglydumpling, but no-one - not even you, Uglydumpling, is entitled to their own facts.

The facts about DSDs in general, and the DSD which Semenya was born with, have been posted here more than once. You have not quoted any similarly-sourced facts to support your claims. You just keep contradicting other posters, with nothing to back up your argument.

edited to note that SternJoyousBeev2 made the 'your own opinion but not your own facts' point before I posted this.

Please enlighten us.

he has chosen to father a child
he has chosen to try and take women’s prize money and fame
his sex is one of the two binary options and it’s male
there are no other options

If that were the case it would t be being debated over as you well know

What ‘experts’? People who want to prove there are more than two sexes???

Everyone is one sex or the other, even people with a DSD. And the presence of DSDs doesn’t mean there are more than two sexes; it means that some people’s reproductive systems don’t develop properly. That’s all.

Yes. I know you are wrong.

You may find it funny, but I just despair at the fact some people still seem to be under the illusion that Caster is a woman.

No I meant hers

Anyone can call themselves and expert and anyone can call themselves a women

any anyone can think they are not

It's being debated because some people can't accept facts.

the cult of gender ideology has juggernauted straight through the path of sane society for the last decade or so, where have you been?

What does?
You've got an enthralled, captive audience here.
Tell us all.

Nobody is saying she is a women - we are saying she has both male and female traits and has chosen to stick with sex assigned at birth

😂😂😂😂
Are you on glue? What about his biology isn’t binary. What does that even mean?!

I feel that this article would help you.

https://theparadoxinstitute.org/articles/what-are-sexes

Insisting on calling semenya she instead of he doesn’t hide that fact that medically the sex of this person is well known

Because for some insane reason some people still fall for the Caster is a woman schtick.

She has female and both male traits

Then you'd be wrong, wouldn't you?
CS is a bloke. A fella.
A man, in fact.
He may have testicles but he's never had the balls to step back from competing in women's sport.

Female and male traits ?

what are they exactly ?

teh only trait we are interested in is eggs or sperm making traits

they ain’t traits as such - just plumbing

the rest is personality