A UK forum is encouraging a desperate parent of a trans identified male to seek out DIY hormones, without consulting health care professionals, how is this dangerous advice legal?

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OP "If anyone could help me to understand, I would be extremely grateful. I just want my daughter to be alive and happy in her own skin as much as possible ."

Responses: "diy is reliable and safe, there are communities that will be able to help, and really all it is getting a blood test every now and then to check how low or high a couple numbers are and adjusting accordingly."

Full details here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1rw0bac/please_help_parent_to_a_16_year_old/

How is this even slightly legal? The pro anorexia sites were shut down right? The pro suicide?

@FlumpyLump I’ve been there too. It was the darkest time of my daughter’s life. Thank heavens we are through that now and she is so much better. Please please don’t put your son on dodgy online ‘medication’ pushed on you by ideologues who don’t give a stuff about him. It’s absolutely fine to be gay and not all men are evil.

I've been on HRT for over 40 years, yawn. I don't know how long I'll be on them in the future, but my health is quite fine.

Lucky you. Proves nothing.

Statistical outriders are a thing. The fact that someone's granny smoked 40 a day all her life and died at 87 when she fell under a bus does not mean that most people are likely to live long, happy and healthy lives if they smoke 40 a day.

Adults who have transitioned need the kids to legitimise their drug dependency. If evidence emerges (and it is) that these drugs harm children and young adults there will be a review of adult services. For those who are now prescription drug addicts this is a problem.

I am puzzled: if needing to take prescribed drugs every day for the rest of your life in order to remain vaguely healthy is not being on lifelong medication, what is it?

Your point 5 - is completely out of order and has been debunked by experts. If you have been told that the choices are socially transing your child or your child dying, you have really been conned.
It’s very interesting that you said you believed your child to be gay. GIDS whistleblowers have stated time and again that the vast majority of children who were referred to the clinic were homosexual, and many of their parents were not happy about that.

All bodies have the potential to react poorly to exogenous treatment. Trans people are generally much more well informed about potential poor health outcomes than other groups.

Well a lot of transitioner will eventually have to discontinue the drugs because it will become apparent that they have raised risks which can kill them potentially as a result of harm caused by the drugs themselves. No good GP should be continuing medication. Even if there's mental health implications. That's not exactly going to make for a good combo.

As I say there's a lot of can kicking going on because ultimately men can't magically turn into women and vice versa.

Says the man who thinks he's biologically female now.

We're all required to eat nourishing material every day for our entire lives to remain vaguely alive. That sucks too.

I'm almost three years into taking a once every 28 day HRT. Lifelong treatment isn't the hassle you believe it to be.

That might have been a time when that was true but the new young cohort it's unlikely. Anyway very young people don't believe it's going to happen to them. Teens to twenties tend to think they're immortal, ten years in the future is infinity away. Decades when the world was full of bronchitic older people with hacking coughs and we all knew why and yet young people still thought it was cool to smoke.

Have you had much gender surgery?

I had sex reassignment surgery in the early 90s. I understand there's an entire menu of procedures today, but I've never been interested in anything else.

Children who have been groomed into believing they can change sex certainly do exist. Adults who believe that they are the opposite sex also exist. But we all know neither thing is true.
If you decided you were the opposite sex when you were a teen in the 80s, you wouldn’t have taken puberty blockers as that wasn’t possible. Hence, your sexual development wouldn’t have been stifled.

And your evidence for this is…?

The hormones you’re taking are not replacing your natural male hormones. They are different hormones.
HRT is solely prescribed to replace natural female hormones for women who are perimenopausal, menopausal or post menopausal.

So important that this is spoken about.
We've had the wholesale denial about ROGD - despite the massive increase in vulnerable girls and young women suddenly deciding their uncomfortable pubertal bodies were wrong and they must really be males.

Children have been, and are still being groomed into believing that they can change sex. That dangerous drugs and brutal surgery are what they need to make them happy when nothing could be further from the truth.

Society safeguards children from dodgy adults who try to persuade them into age inappropriate behaviours - except for with this issue.

That's why Mumsnet's an important resource for parents to access facts and the truth about what's being sold to / done to children by transactivists.

I agree that there are children who absolutely are not trans and should absolutely not change their sex. Trans children are not within that group of children.

I didn't decide I was the opposite sex when I was a teen in the 80s. I was quite aware of my future while clinically enrolled in the 70s in an adjacent child psych program until I extricated myself at 12.

I don't think puberty blockers wouldn't have made much of a difference for me.
My puberty was late as I began HRT.

I always enjoy faddists telling someone who is a diabetic whose thyroid has packed up that daily lifelong medication isn't a hassle; they are so confident that they know all about everything.

My body was generating its own oestrogen and progesterone prior to my initiation of HRT.

If we want to be pedantic about words, the HRT was a supplement to my own. Oestrogen also replaced testosterone as a substitute primary sex hormone in my body. "Replace" is a synonym of "substitute."

Pseudo science is quackery.

If it looks like a duck it probably is, regardless of what it identifies as.

You are assuming that the mother in question is genuine.
The mother may not exist. That poster could be male or female. The child in question may not exist.
Don't believe that everything on Reddit is real.

by all means, shun the nonbeliever.

That'll be because they get their info from the free-range looney bin that is reddit?

The detransitioner lawsuits in the USA are not "fan fiction".

🧵 Thread starts . .

BREAKING: 1st Detransitioner to Take a Medical-Malpractice Lawsuit to Trial Wins $2 Million Judgement

(see rest of thread for more cases)
https://x.com/benryanwriter/status/2017394408878993460

Archived: https://archive.ph/oBwwH

Campbell, Miller, Payne - the US Law Firm that has been taking detransitioner cases to court:

• Suing doctors and healthcare professionals
• for Medical malpractice and “gender transition”
• and Fraud and “Gender transition”

https://cmppllc.com/