A UK forum is encouraging a desperate parent of a trans identified male to seek out DIY hormones, without consulting health care professionals, how is this dangerous advice legal?

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OP "If anyone could help me to understand, I would be extremely grateful. I just want my daughter to be alive and happy in her own skin as much as possible ."

Responses: "diy is reliable and safe, there are communities that will be able to help, and really all it is getting a blood test every now and then to check how low or high a couple numbers are and adjusting accordingly."

Full details here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1rw0bac/please_help_parent_to_a_16_year_old/

How is this even slightly legal? The pro anorexia sites were shut down right? The pro suicide?

The key point you are missing is that those women are using spaces meant for females. You are not female. You know you are not female so you being there makes you a selfish man who puts his own wants before the needs of women.

Even if what you say is true that there are some some of those specific faiths that have no issue sharing intimate spaces with you (I don’t believe that to be true) there are definitely others that would self exclude. Consent is not transferable. STAY OUT!

That’s all well and good, but we know it doesn’t end there.

It's called health care.

All people who receive HRT should also receive blood test monitoring and followup for as long as they are on HRT. It's really that simple.

What nonsense. It does.

The only reason it doesn't end there is because men like you refuse to comply with the law and refuse to respect women's rights.

You people are insane.

I went off of HRT in my 30s. I didn't begin HRT in my 30s.

With every post you shows yourself to be a selfish man who really truly does not understand why women needs single sex spaces.

You don’t give a shit about how you impact on women. You don’t give a shit about women self excluding from spaces and services that were created for them. Those spaces and services were NOT CREATED FOR YOU.

There's a fact of life that some groups of people are offended by the existence of other groups of people. Words describing such people usually end in the letters 'ist' or 'phobe.'

These offended will exist and make their opinions known to all who will listen whether or not the other group is nearby.

All people, men and women, on HRT receive monitoring. It is not bullshit, it is healthcare.

Is anyone else actually quite amused now by the dynamic here?

I could give a fuck about how men treat each other.

No one is offended that there are men who like to wear clothes/makeup more associated with women.

We are, however, outraged, that anyone would think this means they should have access to women's spaces

Also, the initial quote was yanked from a context of discussing why there is a lack of data following the lives of people post-transition.

The second quote was yanked from a context of discussing why someone beginning HRT, and especially a youth, should have legitimate medical treatment rather than DIY access to hormones.

It's a case study in real time

Sex hormones are sex hormones, there's nothing wrong about them. Only sex realist moralising.

I knew about oestrogen treatment for trans women as a child because I had access to libraries, used card catalogues and could read words printed in books.

Based on the numbers of doses consumed worldwide, sex hormones are much safer than other prescribed medications. They are even sold over the counter in many countries as any other self-administered remedy.

Like smoking, right?

People on HRT are not addicts. This is sex realist moralisation speaking in the efforts demanding the removal of all trans medical treatment.

Osteopenia is not withdrawal, it is a medical condition that can be caused by body systems operating without a sex hormone.

500 new messages since I visited last. I guess I have some reading to do.

No, not like smoking.

Away you go and read them then, quietly without moving your lips

Well, loads of people did it for many years, it was sold over the counter without a prescription, so it must be safe, right?

Or is that not how safety is really established?

Trans men are men. Trans women are women.